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AIBU to feel uncomfortable with a male cleaner in women’s toilets while they are operational?

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Brood · 15/08/2026 20:11

There’s a restaurant slash service station that I regularly stop at on the way home from work. For the last several months, there has been a male cleaner servicing the women’s bathroom. I raised it with management that during late hours women are often alone in the bathroom with this man who has likely not been police cleared and has access to women only spaces. They then put a sign up to say that the bathroom is serviced by male and female cleaners.

The other day I was in there when the bathroom was very busy. This male “cleaner” was marching in and out of the bathroom entering cubicles opening toilet roll holders that were half full. I waited for as long as possible for him to be finished but after 40 minutes he was still walking in and out. I went into the cubicle as far away as possible from the cubicles he was servicing. Within seconds, he started to stick the sweeping brush under the door and into my cubicle. This was terrifying.

When I came out there was a queue to use the sink and he was standing watching women wash their hand, then he started approaching women and showing them how to use the tap. I gave him daggers to in the mirror and he met my eyes and watched me the whole time. He did not appear to need to be there and instead seemed to be lingering

Am I being unreasonable for feeling uncomfortable in this situation? Usually when bathrooms are being serviced, they are closed to the public for a short time. This is the third time I have gone in there and found a male cleaner in the bathroom constantly.

There doesn’t appear to be a need for him to be there so excessively as I checked the cubicles and every toilet roll holder had at least one full roll and I’m not sure women need his help to use the sink or that the floor needs to be swept so much, especially when someone is in the cubicle

I left a bad review for the business but I feel like my complaints are falling on deaf ears. This is the only place en route home for miles but I’m more annoyed that women should have to put up with this in the first place and have no peace and are being stared at and intimidated by a man even while using the women’s bathroom - which I feel should be a women only space

What would you do?

OP posts:
takemeonholidayrightnow · 16/08/2026 09:23

Brood · 15/08/2026 20:49

He did stop staring at me while showing women how to use the taps. He was staring the majority of the time. He was staring more than he was working

Christ, how long were you in there for?

You could have peed in the safety of your own home rather than hanging around the hour or so you appear to have been in the toilets. It’s not the cleaner’s behaviour that is weird here, OP…

Onelifeonly · 16/08/2026 09:16

RufustheFactualReindeer · 15/08/2026 21:52

This

it is very weird that he was showing women how to use taps 😳

Not necessarily (if even true). I live in London and every modern public toilet has a different system whereby the taps are turned on, and driers are mostly invisible behind a huge mirror with no indication of where to put your hands to switch it on.

Onelifeonly · 16/08/2026 09:09

I'd be happy someone was keeping the place clean and topping up the toilet roll - no, 2 wouldn't last a week at a service station. You mention being alone at night but then that lots of women were using the facilities at the same time as you, which must be your normal experience I assume, on your way home from work. I would be dashing in, spending about 3 minutes in total and barely notice who was cleaning. I certainly wouldn't stare at anybody for any reason - maybe a split second with a smile if they thanked me for holding a door open or if I told them a soap dispenser was empty etc. You sound weird to me.

MildlyMoist · 16/08/2026 08:56

I’m fairly certain the whole OP is a cut and paste of a thread we had some months ago.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 16/08/2026 08:50

Thestealer · 16/08/2026 08:04

Don't panic he wasn't wearing a dress,

No one is panicking

calm down….

helpfulperson · 16/08/2026 08:49

This man was behaving unreasonably. So report him. That doesn't mean it is unreasonable for a man to be cleaning female toilets.

Battytwatty · 16/08/2026 08:42

LumpkinPumpkin · 15/08/2026 23:58

JKR is that you?

Some people’s lives must be so devoid of excitement that they need to invent a threat every time they piss.

Hmmmm. Now it’s clear who have been saying YABU.

Battytwatty · 16/08/2026 08:40

There are many, very obvious reasons why a lot of women don’t want men in their toilets. If a men has to be in there to clean, he should be in and out, certainly not lurking around. Definitely not pushing the brush under the cubicle while you are using the toilet. I consider that intentional intimidating behaviour. Report it to management.

Thestealer · 16/08/2026 08:04

RufustheFactualReindeer · 15/08/2026 21:52

This

it is very weird that he was showing women how to use taps 😳

Don't panic he wasn't wearing a dress,

VividPinkTraybake · 16/08/2026 01:16

DeftGoldHedgehog · 16/08/2026 00:44

Exactly. The responses on this thread, fucking hell.

Probably because more people have the gumptation to not fall for hyperbole

Temporaryname158 · 16/08/2026 00:51

You were terrified in a busy public toilets that some put a brush under the door? You need to think about why that was terrifying to you because id say that’s quite irrational behaviour.

you say this is on your commute home? If so use another services or wee before you leave if this man causes you such concern

Itsbeenalongtimeincoming · 16/08/2026 00:45

Is it ever okay to ask if someone is on drugs? Asking for a friend……

DeftGoldHedgehog · 16/08/2026 00:44

RufustheFactualReindeer · 15/08/2026 21:52

This

it is very weird that he was showing women how to use taps 😳

Exactly. The responses on this thread, fucking hell.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 16/08/2026 00:40

He does sounds like he is hanging around unnecessarily and more like a toilet attendant than a cleaner. I'd ask them why they have a male toilet attendant in a women's loo and say what he is doing.

sweetchill · 16/08/2026 00:06

HappySmily · 15/08/2026 22:33

When I need a wee, I go in, look for an empty cubicle, wee, wash my hands and leave. I spend very little time watching the cleaning staff or other users and I genuinely don't care what gender the cleaner is, as long as the loos are being cleaned.
I'm hearing that you're getting uncomfortable vibes from this chap, but surely that's all the more reason to get on with the wee and leave, rather than hang around? If you're really feeling bothered, you could try talking to him - "I always seem to see you in here, and it's making me a bit uncomfortable as I don't like to wee with a man outside the cubicle - are you not cleaning the rest of the building?"

Would you actually say that to a cleaner though, in the wild? I’d say usually if someone is uncomfortable with a man being outside their cubicle while they wee, they are almost certainly uncomfortable with telling said man how they feel.

LumpkinPumpkin · 15/08/2026 23:58

JKR is that you?

Some people’s lives must be so devoid of excitement that they need to invent a threat every time they piss.

Proteinpudding · 15/08/2026 23:50

Also I'm going to assume that you're privileged enough not to have ever worked a job in a late opening bar/restaurant/shopping centre/fast food outlet or similar OP. If you had, you'd know full well why staff have to spend a lot of time in or around the toilets.
Try going somewhere that the staff aren't visible and see how safe you feel then, or how clean and welcoming the facilities are!

Coconutter24 · 15/08/2026 23:48

If you can wait 40 minutes for him to leave the bathroom why not just go home and use your own once you’ve finished eating or grabbing a drink or whatever it is you’re doing on your way home from work?

VividPinkTraybake · 15/08/2026 23:47

Mt563 · 15/08/2026 21:02

We're not all men and I'm fed up of the increasing assumption on here that if you disagree with a woman you must be a man.

Gut feeling is important but it's not infallible.

Your last line should be pinned at the top of all threads, I despair that "trust your gut" is used here as if it's the be all and end all

VividPinkTraybake · 15/08/2026 23:41

Brood · 15/08/2026 20:35

Said like a man

The most pathetic genre of reply available

Proteinpudding · 15/08/2026 23:39

Stop harassing the cleaner OP.

Just imagine, a service station who employs staff who presumably are working alone a lot of time, might struggle to recruit a woman who wants to do that job on a late shift. But you think some women should be forced to take the job so you can feel better? What do you think the cleaner is going to do exactly - given that if they were to break any rules, they're very easily identifiable, you know because the employer knows where they are, their full name address and identifying details?

They're just earning a living, doing a job most people don't want to do. Have some respect.

sweetchill · 15/08/2026 23:14

I’m actually surprised at how many disagree with you. I had an experience of a male cleaner in a loo yesterday, that made me feel uncomfortable too. It was in a nice hotel and the loo was all dark wood, dim lighting. The man was charging about loudly changing bins etc and I was a bit taken aback when I came in, but just went ahead and did my pee, flushed and came out. I wished I’d just found another loo. To give him credit I saw he’d propped open the door to the outside which I was pleased about, but he was still charging about and went straight into the loo I’d just came out of, and flushed it again, even though I’d flushed and didnt leave anything behind!

Anyway, I don’t like men in loos or changing rooms with me. IDGAF if anyone wants to call me dramatic, hysterical or whatever else people are calling you. I don’t like it and neither do you, I’m happy for those that don’t care. I’d try to avoid using that place if you can.

cestlavielife · 15/08/2026 23:05

Use the disabled toilet (if anyone asks say invisible disability)

blubberball · 15/08/2026 23:00

NullaEffugium · 15/08/2026 21:47

The cleaners were always female in the women's toilets years ago

That’s why we had chambermaids taking out the chamber pots. Were no chambermen back then unless you were the King.

I don’t really want to go back to the days where certain jobs were too lowly for men to do.

It's not really about a job being too lowly for men to do. It's about the male cleaners cleaning the male toilets, and the female cleaners cleaning the female spaces

HappySmily · 15/08/2026 22:33

When I need a wee, I go in, look for an empty cubicle, wee, wash my hands and leave. I spend very little time watching the cleaning staff or other users and I genuinely don't care what gender the cleaner is, as long as the loos are being cleaned.
I'm hearing that you're getting uncomfortable vibes from this chap, but surely that's all the more reason to get on with the wee and leave, rather than hang around? If you're really feeling bothered, you could try talking to him - "I always seem to see you in here, and it's making me a bit uncomfortable as I don't like to wee with a man outside the cubicle - are you not cleaning the rest of the building?"