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AIBU to feel uncomfortable with a male cleaner in women’s toilets while they are operational?

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Brood · 15/08/2026 20:11

There’s a restaurant slash service station that I regularly stop at on the way home from work. For the last several months, there has been a male cleaner servicing the women’s bathroom. I raised it with management that during late hours women are often alone in the bathroom with this man who has likely not been police cleared and has access to women only spaces. They then put a sign up to say that the bathroom is serviced by male and female cleaners.

The other day I was in there when the bathroom was very busy. This male “cleaner” was marching in and out of the bathroom entering cubicles opening toilet roll holders that were half full. I waited for as long as possible for him to be finished but after 40 minutes he was still walking in and out. I went into the cubicle as far away as possible from the cubicles he was servicing. Within seconds, he started to stick the sweeping brush under the door and into my cubicle. This was terrifying.

When I came out there was a queue to use the sink and he was standing watching women wash their hand, then he started approaching women and showing them how to use the tap. I gave him daggers to in the mirror and he met my eyes and watched me the whole time. He did not appear to need to be there and instead seemed to be lingering

Am I being unreasonable for feeling uncomfortable in this situation? Usually when bathrooms are being serviced, they are closed to the public for a short time. This is the third time I have gone in there and found a male cleaner in the bathroom constantly.

There doesn’t appear to be a need for him to be there so excessively as I checked the cubicles and every toilet roll holder had at least one full roll and I’m not sure women need his help to use the sink or that the floor needs to be swept so much, especially when someone is in the cubicle

I left a bad review for the business but I feel like my complaints are falling on deaf ears. This is the only place en route home for miles but I’m more annoyed that women should have to put up with this in the first place and have no peace and are being stared at and intimidated by a man even while using the women’s bathroom - which I feel should be a women only space

What would you do?

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Emeraldforest · 06/09/2026 12:41

I'm a cleaner myself and have to clean all genders. I don't go in the men's if there is anyone in there and am as unobtrusive as possible in the others...it's their private time.
Equally we have to get round a lot of work in a very short time and have to make checks.Hence why we fuss over toilet roll, we get in trouble if we ever run out of that or hand-wash.
Re the gents, if someone is in there I slap a notice on the door...Do not enter...and do a bit of dusting nearby, then nip in when he comes out.Ive rarely walked in on anyone.

UnNiddeRides · 16/08/2026 22:25

In answer to your original question ‘what would you do?’ In your shoes I would

Go to the toilet before I left work.

Get petrol somewhere else (it’s notoriously expensive at motorway service stations).

Do my shopping elsewhere (for the same reasons as above).

Try to sort out meals/mealtimes so that you’re not spending 1-2 hours eating service-station food really late at night.

You’ve said that you’ve stopped going there so it seems that you may have done all the above. If that’s the case then you may see benefits to your health, your mental heath & your budget.

We all have things that make us uncomfortable and if you’ve done what you need to that’s a good step for you.

if it were me I’d have gone to the toilet and just gone home as I’m always in a rush to just get the job done.

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 16/08/2026 21:09

GreenShady · 16/08/2026 16:43

Why would I need to? That’s not what happened. I don’t think men are often worried my predatory female toilet attendants are they?

Why would you be worried about a male toilet attendant?

ThatWasAFunDay · 16/08/2026 18:00

This wouldn’t bother me.

dhillan · 16/08/2026 17:54

How tf did you know all the toilets all already had toilet roll in them? I can think of no setup where you could've known this without going in all of the toilets to check. You sound as though you were acting like a total weirdo and he was possibly slightly alarmed or suspicious, so was watching you to make sure you weren't doing anything dodgy.

I have been in so many similar situations and never bat an eyelid. A man taking his daughter into a restroom and loudly announcing himself and apologising because he didn't want her near urinals. Male plumbers or electricians in a women's refuge. Male cleaners on a female only hospital ward. That's just life and it is perfectly ok, OP.

Absolutely mental take, leave the man alone.

saraclara · 16/08/2026 17:40

Brood · 16/08/2026 09:52

Exactly. It’s a very long bathroom with 25-30 cubicles. I was waiting until he was finished sweeping out the cubicles. He went up to sweep out the ones at the opposite end of the bathroom. He was moving so slow, I was shocked that after I’d sat down, he came right down to the cubicle I was in and started pushing the brush underneath the toilet door. That signalled to me to get out of the cubicle. I’ve never seen anything like that in my life. When I came out, he stood with the brush staring at women washing their hand and then intervening to “help them”. And he was staring at me in the mirror. It was very uncomfortable and odd behaviour

If it's got 30 cubicles, then cleaning each cubicle and restocking loo roll is going to take a lot longer than 40 minutes.

badkitty · 16/08/2026 16:56

You seriously waited 40 minutes to use the loo because of a male cleaner? Were you in the toilets watching him the whole time waiting for him to leave or did you go back out to the restaurant but keep an eagle eye on the toilet door waiting for him to come out? The bathroom was very busy so you weren’t even going to be alone in there with him? Also how much ‘peace’ do you seriously expect when using a public loo? Surely it’s in and out as quickly as possible? What were you planning to do in there that was so precious that it could not be interrupted?

Iloveeverycat · 16/08/2026 16:48

If there is a sign I don't see the problem.

GreenShady · 16/08/2026 16:43

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 16/08/2026 13:04

Would you think the same if it was a man giving daggers to a female toilet assistant?

Why would I need to? That’s not what happened. I don’t think men are often worried my predatory female toilet attendants are they?

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 16/08/2026 14:34

Where I work there is public access to much of the building and have used the toilets on the ground floor which are used by the public. Some women are filthy - drop toilet paper and period products on the floor and can't be bothered picking them up and putting in the bin provided. The poor cleaner (usually male) has to then pick everything up before starting to clean.
Male cleaners do not apply for these jobs because they want to be in a ladies toilets for perverted reasons plus the pay is not great.

Justthethingsthatyoudointhisgarden · 16/08/2026 14:25

I'd strongly suggest you have a wee before you leave work if it triggers you so much.

Glittertwins · 16/08/2026 14:12

I’m most definitely female and I’d rather have the toilets clean rather than worry about who is cleaning them.
Are you suggesting the toilets are closed every time they needs cleaning by a member of the opposite sex? That would cause a lot more people physical inconvenience.

olivepicanto · 16/08/2026 14:05

I'd rather have him in cleaning than deal with the mess that some women leave the toilets in

saraclara · 16/08/2026 14:03

Sorry, I can't be bothered reading this while thing. But you were watching him for 40 minutes?

RufustheFactualReindeer · 16/08/2026 13:57

LilyOfTheValley25 · 16/08/2026 13:51

ThIs story has so many inconsistencies thst i think it's a load of crap, a tissue of lies.
You sound a bit tapped in the head spending far too long hanging round the toilets spying on him.You submitted a complaint about him and give him the stink eye every time your in there.
No wonder the poor guy is pissed off! Your behaviour is enough to drive anyone around the U bend

Snort 😀 literal toilet humour

itsgettingweird · 16/08/2026 13:56

Thus has always been the case for as long as I’ve been peeing in public bathrooms (over 4 decades!)

They are cleaning the loos. They are earning a living and paying tax.

JHound · 16/08/2026 13:53

Doesn’t bother me. As long as there is a sign. I prefer male cleaners to dirty bathrooms.

I would prefer they have female cleaners but if they don’t have any available then I prefer a clean bathroom.

LilyOfTheValley25 · 16/08/2026 13:51

ThIs story has so many inconsistencies thst i think it's a load of crap, a tissue of lies.
You sound a bit tapped in the head spending far too long hanging round the toilets spying on him.You submitted a complaint about him and give him the stink eye every time your in there.
No wonder the poor guy is pissed off! Your behaviour is enough to drive anyone around the U bend

BudgetBuster · 16/08/2026 13:48

RufustheFactualReindeer · 16/08/2026 13:46

You lot?

just think its weird that someone…anyone had to show multiple women how to use the taps 🤷🏻

and no one needed in the gents showing the men

Well I don't think the OP was in the gents to know if the men needed help.... obviously she wouldn't dare enter the male bathroom for fear she may be jumped after staring at someone and sending daggers for 40 minutes.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 16/08/2026 13:46

You lot?

just think its weird that someone…anyone had to show multiple women how to use the taps 🤷🏻

and no one needed in the gents showing the men

Merkins · 16/08/2026 13:44

RufustheFactualReindeer · 15/08/2026 21:52

This

it is very weird that he was showing women how to use taps 😳

Should I be complaining about the female cleaner who showed me how to work the sensor on the taps in the loos at Birmingham New Street, or is not creepy because she was a woman?

We are not going back to boy and girl jobs no matter how much you lot try to make us.

Brood · 16/08/2026 13:31

takemeonholidayrightnow · 16/08/2026 13:13

Also clever how he showed other people how to use the taps whilst simultaneously staring at the OP for the 45 minutes plus she was there

It’s so clever isn’t it?! I mean it’s like when people say they were watching their kids. How can that be the case if they were doing anything simultaneously. I mean how can they really be watching them the whole time when they need to blink so many times. It’s amazing 🙄

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Brood · 16/08/2026 13:29

pastadish · 16/08/2026 13:12

I’m really confused about all this, your first post it all happened on the same day and the same vist. You may have seen him before at other times but you said this whole sequence of events happened in one visit. But anyway, just don’t go there again

Wrong comment

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Brood · 16/08/2026 13:21

pastadish · 16/08/2026 13:12

I’m really confused about all this, your first post it all happened on the same day and the same vist. You may have seen him before at other times but you said this whole sequence of events happened in one visit. But anyway, just don’t go there again

I never said it all happened on the same day. In my original post, I said

”For the last several months, there has been a male cleaner servicing the women’s bathroom” and then I detail separate occasions

The late night situation where women can be alone in the bathroom with this man - as I was.. Then I go on to say after I raised this, they put a sign up to say that the bathroom is serviced by male and female cleaners.

Then I say….
“The other day I was in there when the bathroom was very busy.”

If it’s not clear, this was not all on the one day

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Brood · 16/08/2026 13:13

GreenShady · 16/08/2026 12:49

I’m amazed at how dismissive most posters are being here.
None of what the OP described sounds normal or business as usual!

This is one of those weird pile ons where the first couple of posters are dismissive of the OP so everyone else joins in.

OP, on a different day at a different time your post might have got a more balanced and supportive response.

This place is really so bonkers sometimes.

Thank you. It seemed to be the same 4 or 5 people, who were commenting repeatedly - not addressing what happened but instead were either taking things so literally, they had no capacity to get the gist of a situation at all e.g. if he was staring at you how was he able to stare at the other women washing their hands? Or were overly nit picky on details to the point of being unable to perspective take or understand that during a conversation things tend to get fleshed out following questions - saying things like that couldn’t have happened because you added details that weren’t in the original post or that couldn’t have happened because that doesn’t align with my very specific experience e.g. I’ve never heard of a place having that many cubicles or else just resorting to personal attacks like saying I sound irrational. All of these types of responses make me feel it is a problem. People would prefer to call women crazy or invent reasons why this couldn’t have happened rather than address the issue.

It certainly didn’t feel normal or like business as usual. I’ve been using public bathrooms for a long time and haven’t experienced this type of behaviour before.

Usually when men need to enter a woman only space, they’re apologetic, considerate and keep their head down - get in and out ASAP. This was unusual behaviour and felt disturbing

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