AIBU to think heatwave barbecue reactions are starting to feel a bit Covid?

Yes discarded fag butts are a real risk. My sister lived in a property where the building was 2 storey, and each corner was a separate house with its own garden fenced in. No back door only a front door. She fell asleep on the sofa one afternoon and then woke up to find the front door and front of house on fire aswell as 2 of the 3 fences surrounding her garden. She ended up having to escape through a window into the garden with the burning fence s then climb over the bit of fence that wasn’t on fire. They ended up being out of their house for well over 6 months while it was repaired. Massive fire and smoke damage. The cause was her next door neighbour attempting to flick a fag butt over the fence but it landed between his shed and the fence. Set alight some cardboard, which then set alight the shed, the fence, the dried out grass before the wind spread it to the houses which then also got set alight. People seem unaware of how much damage a solitary cigarette can do especially when the ground and plant life is so dried out.

Lol @ all the people going on about how others 'love to feel superior by telling others how to behave'. Well apparently some people need to be told how to behave or the entire countryside burns down including people's homes, so maybe just suck it up and get over yourself?

Bet you don’t vaccinate your kids either

I am embarrassed for you, writing this nonsense.

That’s not what I was saying at all. Perhaps I misunderstood your initial post and the thread has gone down a rabbit hole. But that’s definitely not my point. I have no clue what French and Spanish were saying about managing their wildfires. Probably the same as us - some people taking extra precautions and some people taking fewer precautions.

You really haven’t understood the OP have you?

https://www.braintreeandwithamtimes.co.uk/news/26467132.maldon-smoke-fire-festival-cancelled-weekend/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawTtPxZwZG9mAWV4dG4DYWVtAjEwAGJyaWQRMDhmbWo0YjN5cjFHclRzQWNzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEe3DkTwue3_QcgSDropKe5bNW_eJ8il67pUmBXJLGDFgnz6Qsm_o5pAooMFHo_aem_KY0olKwkqln5IEqWqNVYSw#Echobox=1786785407

Because you’ve made the decision that British people are divided about wildfires and Spanish French and Greek people weren’t, without having a clue what kind of discussions were happening in those countries?

You haven’t made any case

Usually, intend to go for fairly middling views. I don’t tend to see one extreme as right over the other.
But equally when it’s a bit of a worrying situation and people are losing so much, I think it’s right to play safe.

Oh dear

OP I agree that the tone of preaching and sanctimony is strong.

It’s nothing like Covid it’s about using your brain to see it’s bone dry in most places, grass is like straw and all it takes is one spark to cause huge issues for an already very stretched fire service. Most people are sensible but there will always be one idiot who takes a disposable bbq to a picnic site and just discards it.

What is "your case?"

An inability to read and interpret information?
An inability to risk assess?

I will continue to safely use my responsibly sited gas barbecue, beause it does not pose a high fire risk.

I will obviously not carry out any activities that do have an associated high fire risk, e.g disposible BBQs.

Just because they are both BBQs, it doesn't mean they have the same risk profile.

Perhaps I’m misreading mumsnet - lots of divided opinions surely?

it doesn’t matter what the other mumsnets were saying. You made the point that we were judging ourselves differently to how we were viewing our European counterparts. Their discussions on their own mumsnets are irrelevant.

Yep, agree.

I definitely get the point you are making @PatioDwellers !!

Yes….both extremes. True.

dont light a bloody bbq.
don’t look out for opportunities to report on everyone.

We have a gas outdoor BBQ. There is zero fire risk as it is on tiles. The alert did not ban gas BBQs. If it did I would not use. As it did not ban outdoor gas BBQ then will continue to use unless rules change.

I rest my case.

I agree it's personal choice.

Agreed, someone set fire to the bin at msons the other week doing this.

Given that out here in the rural Welsh countryside we had to keep our doors and windows shut for two days this week because of smoke from wildfires between 25 and 80 miles away from us, I think anyone who creates a naked flame outside unnecessarily until it rains properly is deeply irresponsible. And no, a barbecue doesn't count as necessary.

Here in Australia we have total fire ban days every summer. We can usually use gas bbqs providing they are fit for purpose and we meet certain conditions (eg close access to water) but no charcoal or wood. I don’t think you can even buy disposable bbqs. Welding etc is not allowed on those days either.

If we were a bit brighter and more considerate we would not have to be told to not have BBQs, fireworks, campfires etc by the government. We would just know not to do it. But we don’t so we have to be told and then some people complain they don’t like being told what to do 🙄

No, I'll safely and responsibly use my gas barbeque on my concrete patio. Why would I not? It doesn't have the same risk profile as the banned disposable BBQs on dry grass.