Lindsay Clancy was let down

The fact that so many women are making up bizarre stories where the husband murdered the children or he was having an affair and that somehow makes him responsible for her strangling them shows there is something very very, very strange going on with many women’s reaction to this dreadful case.

That and the dressing up to demonstrate outside the courthouse and the sickening “Same, Lindsay” tiktok videos.

I watch this trial live every day. Perhaps hypocritically, I find it abhorrent that it's livestreamed and played on US TV every day because it's such an intensely personal thing for the families to sit through and we are witnessing awful pain, tragedy and loss.

However, livestreamed it is and I watch it because I am so interested in seeing how maternal mental health is described, analysed and treated and also the legal implications of what happens when someone is failed to this extent.

There is currently no scenario in which Patrick will be found guilty of anything. He is not on trial, he is a witness. I don't think people have grasped this very basic legal fact.

I have watched parts of the trial….i have a job so I can’t watch the whole thing!

You clearly haven't watched the trial to say something like "he showed barely any emotion in court" nor heard PC talk about his children in court. It was the most painful thing to watch. I reccomend you watch the trial.

I’m currently off the opinion she did the murder but the ex husband was a narcissist who was having an affair and gaslighting her, making her feel even more alone and crazy.

Just a bit more knowledgeable about the case than you. (Way more) Did you
want me to find the links for you?

Leave it alone mate, I shared my opinion on a forum. Your reaction is extreme and unnecessary.

So it's ok for a women to murder kids because they've just got to say the magic words?

Says the person accusing a dad of not reacting how she expects him to. Thats vile.

I just said check your facts. A quick google will tell you exactly what I’ve said. But that’s completely up to you 😂 I’m just suggesting before you get upset again!!

The only person who is being defensive and childish is you. You are attacking me for voicing an opinion. Stop name calling just because I do not agree with you. How vile.

I can do whatever I like actually, you don’t get to tell me what to do. This is a public forum, I’m entitled to my own opinions, as are you 👍

when I was at my lowest I literally had to have my husband do all my pharmacy runs and keep track of the 4 pills I took daily. He stood and watched me take them. My head was so gone I couldn’t organise myself to do this independently. I have a first class degree from Oxford. But my mind was gone. I couldn’t even remember the name of my dog that had passed the year before at one point. I was on some of the same medications I’ve seen Lindsay was prescribed. They are no joke. If I wasn’t supported I have no clue where I would be. I would walk around and literally only see methods of suicide - tall building, busy road etc. I had never had mental health issues prior to giving birth

I agree, that’s what surprised me too. She seems to have full support from everyone who knows her, including her MIL who was incredibly kind towards her despite everything. The ex husband is something else. He went on holiday a month later with his new woman and he’s already remarried Lindsey’s doppelgänger. Her lawyer is fantastic.

Re the OP what has struck me is how shit her psychiatry was in the lead up.

Did you see the footage of him on the day out when he was just lurking behind?

At best he was being totally unaware and shit father, she was baby carrying and wrangling two little ones. But his manner just seemed really creepy and off to me.

You have no clue what was investigated in early days. For a start, Patrick is on video a few miles from home and has an alibi. You’re all bonkers if you think Patrick is guilty. Have you seen any of the videos of reporters who heard the 911 call? The reason it is withheld is because it is so harrowing. Patrick could have probably done more to support Lindsay, but he did not kill the kids. That’s not even up for discussion in the court, as Patrick is being tried only by people on social media who have nothing better to do than make up stuff to make the case more exciting for them. Its a disgrace to the memory of those children, and completely unfair to Patrick, and worse of all, detracts from the serious issues that should he focussed on here, lack of post natal womens health care.

Have you ever supported somebody with severe mental illness?

So the sane father who’s got a rock solid alibi did it because he fled to another city to rebuild after losing everything in the most unimaginable circumstances and suffering a long time supporting somebody who was incredibly mentally ill. The same person who supports his wife now along with his family?

That is ridiculous.

You do realise reporters who have heard the 911 call have said the word basement was said by LC right? So it’s no longer a question. It is fact. You know she slit her wrists? Why do you think she took off her watch?

You don’t get to judge how PC holds himself in court. He lost everything that night. LC isn’t a constant mess. She’s sat up, watching and listening. You saw a snippet of him. Stop repeating and start looking yourself. At least have a fresh opinion on it.

I don’t think she did it. When husband discovered her, he claimed that she told him the children were downstairs but her thyroid was completely destroyed apparently and couldn’t speak. Also her Apple Watch wasn’t on her. Speculation that he used it to send messages. He showed barely any emotion in court, whereas she regularly broke down crying. He moved on very quickly with a new woman. It doesn’t seem right to me. I do think she was very unwell though.

ffs this is very clearly a case of someone becoming psychotic, they are not able to think logically their actions are driven by their delusional thoughts/voices

there are many cases of men killing people while they are psychotic and will be treated in secure hospitals, often a close relative

server postpartum depression can lead to postpartum psychosis, the reason why is thought to be many factors one being shift in hormones (which men will not get after birth) which she was treated for this is thankfully rare and as men do not give birth they are not treated for postpartum depression psychosis

When an admission from a clearly severely mentally ill,over medicated,under medically supervised woman is accepted seemingly without question and without other evidence this is bound to lead to speculation some of it is wild.

Non compliance with medical advice is often seen in psychosis .

Her defence is PPP. She sought help for it constantly. This is about how women are treated after pregnancy. This is about the lack of support women receive.

Men don’t get PPP. They get depressed but this case is specifically about a woman and other woman resonate with it. Watch the trial, you will see how she was ignored and fobbed off with random medications.

So it’s not ignoring men and depression, it’s just not about them. It’s bizarre anyone mentions a man in a case about depression linked with pregnancy.

Agreed. And no-one knows when he started dating her, it’s all just rubbish they read online. So gullible. And so what, just because he has moved on, doesn’t make him suspicious in anyway. Lindsay committed these crimes and is not denying she did.