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To think Count Binface is doing a great job in the Clacton by-election?

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Darker · 10/08/2026 11:43

Count down to Bin Day!

Count Binface has been out bigging-up Clacton and drawing attention to its potential.

It’s a really positive campaign.

I don’t think he’ll win but I’d love it if he did. I think he’d be brilliant.

And if he doesn’t, I think other candidates could learn a lot from his approach.

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77yearsyoung · 14/08/2026 13:28

Shakeoffyourchains · 14/08/2026 13:11

Tbf Farage's track record in every single elected position he has held should be proof enough he's unsuitable for public office, but if voters want to ignore that because he shouts populist rhetoric that's their choice. Doesn't mean their choice is above derision though.

As to why are they (not sure who they are? Renewable developers or investors maybe?) putting solar panels on farmland, it's generally because farmers are happy to sell/lease the land to said developers and it's cheaper to build there than in established urban centres.

Also did Farage make a mockery of the 2019 election when he stood down candidates in the 317 tory held constituencies or was that ok cause it benefited your side?

I'd forgotten about the candidates he told to step down in 2019, good one. You're right.
Yes, he's a populist but so is Andy Burnham......man of the people.
I just defend the right of the voters to chose Farage over the other candidates in the general election and this by-election. Pity the other's didn't turn up.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:26

olivepicanto · 14/08/2026 13:21

And yet if you dare to say that, you get accused of superiority.

You're right, though. If you vote for reform, then you have very questionable standards.

Happy to appear superior in that context 🤣

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:25

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:22

Why what? Why do I support Reform? Same reason anyone else does, I think immigration is an existential issue and I'm a near single-issue voter.

No, why do you hope they form the next government? Immigration is down and theres still a long time to go until the next GE. It might not be a pressing issue by then, or we might need to look at it differently in the light of factors such as climate change and our own ageing population.

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:22

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:20

Why?

Why what? Why do I support Reform? Same reason anyone else does, I think immigration is an existential issue and I'm a near single-issue voter.

olivepicanto · 14/08/2026 13:21

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:11

I think any decent person would feel the same.

And yet if you dare to say that, you get accused of superiority.

You're right, though. If you vote for reform, then you have very questionable standards.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:20

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:19

The rules just say a recall petition has to be made available for voters to sign, they don't have to sign it. They might not support Farage but not want to have the fuss and expense of an election for example.

Fwiw I think Farage's early by-election stunt was pointless and that he should have declared the money, although I overall hope that Reform forms the next government despite this.

Why?

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:19

paddleboardingmum · 14/08/2026 13:12

I think it would also be a farce to have another by-election after whatever committee decision is made. It's not like they are going to come back with new information not already baked into voters' decision making.

It's not a farce if it's the established rules. Perhaps he's been just trying to avoid being held to account for it. Perfectly possible new information could come to light or be more publicised anyway.

The rules just say a recall petition has to be made available for voters to sign, they don't have to sign it. They might not support Farage but not want to have the fuss and expense of an election for example.

Fwiw I think Farage's early by-election stunt was pointless and that he should have declared the money, although I overall hope that Reform forms the next government despite this.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:13

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 13:08

So happy yet you've still not proven where I've been racist. That's fine. Maybe the next poster you try that on with will be more forgiving.

Perhaps you skim read? I specifically said I wasn't accusing you of making racist comments on this thread. I accused you of being a racist more generally, on the basis of your support for racist parties.

Incidentally you didn't deny that you'd vote without shame for the mythical Women Should Be Kept Barefoot and Pregnant Party, given the opportunity, so I'm also accusing you of being sexist.

paddleboardingmum · 14/08/2026 13:12

I think it would also be a farce to have another by-election after whatever committee decision is made. It's not like they are going to come back with new information not already baked into voters' decision making.

It's not a farce if it's the established rules. Perhaps he's been just trying to avoid being held to account for it. Perfectly possible new information could come to light or be more publicised anyway.

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 13:12

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:07

I don't have anything against recall petitions, I'm saying I think it would be an utter waste of time unless there is substantial new information revealed that wasn't available yesterday. So if I were a voter in Clacton asked to sign one, I would decline. Other voters in Clacton might make different choices.

I expect they will. If everyone who voted for Binface signed a recall petition the required number will be almost reached, only another 400 would be needed.

Shakeoffyourchains · 14/08/2026 13:11

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 12:46

By continually assuming that Farage is unsuitable to stand you are deriding the voters who voted him in. He is their choice. The other parties made a mockery of our political system by backing away. If they were so sure the people of Clacton had at last seen through him, they would have put up candidates and got rid of him before the next election.

Better discussion. Why in God's name are they putting solar panels on farmland. Why not use warehouses, car parks and any public buildings. Leave our countryside alone!
Will the people who get to meet Andy Burnham on his 'tour' get to ask him any question or will the audience be picked and questions chosen in advance.
What happens to the debt he left in Manchester and WHO elected him.
Farage will survive well, he's canny!

Tbf Farage's track record in every single elected position he has held should be proof enough he's unsuitable for public office, but if voters want to ignore that because he shouts populist rhetoric that's their choice. Doesn't mean their choice is above derision though.

As to why are they (not sure who they are? Renewable developers or investors maybe?) putting solar panels on farmland, it's generally because farmers are happy to sell/lease the land to said developers and it's cheaper to build there than in established urban centres.

Also did Farage make a mockery of the 2019 election when he stood down candidates in the 317 tory held constituencies or was that ok cause it benefited your side?

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:10

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:07

I don't have anything against recall petitions, I'm saying I think it would be an utter waste of time unless there is substantial new information revealed that wasn't available yesterday. So if I were a voter in Clacton asked to sign one, I would decline. Other voters in Clacton might make different choices.

Yes, I'm not sure I'd see much point but for me that would be because I think Farage would be elected in Clacton whatever he did. The only thing that would stop him being elected there would be if he was in prison. The voters there love him, plus I think people enjoy being represented by a party leader. I'd still sign it though. Mr Farage has a lot to say about other people's conduct so I think he should be held accountable for his own.

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 13:08

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:57

The thing is, everything I've said is here on public record. I haven't attempted to edit or remove a thing. So people can judge for themselves whether I've backpedalled or not. I'm happy with what I've written.

So happy yet you've still not proven where I've been racist. That's fine. Maybe the next poster you try that on with will be more forgiving.

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:07

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:55

If your MP was found guilty of wrongdoing, wouldn't you want the chance of a recall petition? Surely you wouldn't be happy to let serious misconduct go entirely unpunished, however mild and ineffective that punishment was? It's a case of principle and standards.

I don't have anything against recall petitions, I'm saying I think it would be an utter waste of time unless there is substantial new information revealed that wasn't available yesterday. So if I were a voter in Clacton asked to sign one, I would decline. Other voters in Clacton might make different choices.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:58

Darker · 14/08/2026 12:56

Will Farage be allowed to stand again if the enquiry finds him guilty of wrongdoing?

Yes.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:57

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 12:55

😆 🤣 😂 😹 watch your arms from all that backpeddling.

The thing is, everything I've said is here on public record. I haven't attempted to edit or remove a thing. So people can judge for themselves whether I've backpedalled or not. I'm happy with what I've written.

Darker · 14/08/2026 12:56

Will Farage be allowed to stand again if the enquiry finds him guilty of wrongdoing?

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ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:55

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 12:53

I'm glad Farage won and also think this whole thing has been a bit of a farce, glad it's over, and it was a waste of time for all involved.

I think it would also be a farce to have another by-election after whatever committee decision is made. It's not like they are going to come back with new information not already baked into voters' decision making.

If your MP was found guilty of wrongdoing, wouldn't you want the chance of a recall petition? Surely you wouldn't be happy to let serious misconduct go entirely unpunished, however mild and ineffective that punishment was? It's a case of principle and standards.

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 12:55

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:51

There's a difference between twisting words and correcting someone's wrongful interpretation of what you have said. You claimed I called Reform voters racist and I cleared up your misunderstanding.

😆 🤣 😂 😹 watch your arms from all that backpeddling.

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 12:53

I'm glad Farage won and also think this whole thing has been a bit of a farce, glad it's over, and it was a waste of time for all involved.

I think it would also be a farce to have another by-election after whatever committee decision is made. It's not like they are going to come back with new information not already baked into voters' decision making.

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 12:52

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 12:46

By continually assuming that Farage is unsuitable to stand you are deriding the voters who voted him in. He is their choice. The other parties made a mockery of our political system by backing away. If they were so sure the people of Clacton had at last seen through him, they would have put up candidates and got rid of him before the next election.

Better discussion. Why in God's name are they putting solar panels on farmland. Why not use warehouses, car parks and any public buildings. Leave our countryside alone!
Will the people who get to meet Andy Burnham on his 'tour' get to ask him any question or will the audience be picked and questions chosen in advance.
What happens to the debt he left in Manchester and WHO elected him.
Farage will survive well, he's canny!

👏 💯

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:51

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 12:49

Twist the words all you want. Don't make baseless accusations unless you can back them up.

There's a difference between twisting words and correcting someone's wrongful interpretation of what you have said. You claimed I called Reform voters racist and I cleared up your misunderstanding.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:50

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 12:46

By continually assuming that Farage is unsuitable to stand you are deriding the voters who voted him in. He is their choice. The other parties made a mockery of our political system by backing away. If they were so sure the people of Clacton had at last seen through him, they would have put up candidates and got rid of him before the next election.

Better discussion. Why in God's name are they putting solar panels on farmland. Why not use warehouses, car parks and any public buildings. Leave our countryside alone!
Will the people who get to meet Andy Burnham on his 'tour' get to ask him any question or will the audience be picked and questions chosen in advance.
What happens to the debt he left in Manchester and WHO elected him.
Farage will survive well, he's canny!

I'm unconvinced that you understand why the main parties stood down in this particular by-election.

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 12:49

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:48

If that's how you'd like to refute my accusations, that's your prerogative. Many would disagree, and that is theirs.

Of course, I didn't say Reform voters are racist. I said anti racists don't vote Reform and that is quite a different statement to the one you claim I made.

Twist the words all you want. Don't make baseless accusations unless you can back them up.

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 12:48

Mooselander · 14/08/2026 12:44

Excellent news. And of course he did 🤣

Do you want to remind her of Josh Simons, or shall I!

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