Page 16 | To think Count Binface is doing a great job in the Clacton by-election?

Darker · 2026-08-10T10:43:46+00:00

Count down to Bin Day! Count Binface has been out bigging-up Clacton and drawing attention to its potential. It’s a really positive campaign. I don’t think he’ll win but I’d love it if he did. I think he’d be brilliant. And if he doesn’t, I think other candidates could learn a lot from his approach.

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 14:09

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 14:07

Exactly that, it would be hard to think of better career enhancement.

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I thought we were against people being "out for themselves" in politics ;)

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 14:07

Darker · 14/08/2026 14:03

Jon Harvey / Count Binface is now a household name and known to an international audience.

He’s a comedian and satirist and will have many new opportunities as a result of what he’s done in Clacton.

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Exactly that, it would be hard to think of better career enhancement.

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 14:07

itsgettingweird · 14/08/2026 13:44

So if your a single issue voter - which is your right.

What will you do if the immigration issue is solved via another party?

Will it remain your single issue and will you remain sure only reform can solve it or will you focus on another single issue? And what would that single issue likely be?

You don’t find many people honest enough to admit being a single issue voter so I find it interesting.

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I would have said most people who support Reform say that immigration is their key issue? Certainly first among many even if they have other views.

I don't think it's particularly likely that the current government is going to actively reverse migration, but if they did then I'd consider voting for them to continue, I guess. There's a hypothetical version of the Labour party that might do it to increase wages, perhaps? But I think the current version doesn't have the electoral incentives to do it.

I'm also concerned about other topics of course but I think they'll all be harder to address while migration is still out of control. For example, low-skilled workers aren't going to contribute to state coffers and help with an ageing population, they're just going to withdraw their own pensions.

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Darker · 14/08/2026 14:03

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 13:55

Binface just made an idiot of himself

Jon Harvey / Count Binface is now a household name and known to an international audience.

He’s a comedian and satirist and will have many new opportunities as a result of what he’s done in Clacton.

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ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:00

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 13:55

Binface just made an idiot of himself

How?

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:58

Scotiasdarling · 14/08/2026 13:47

Don't make me laugh, if Burnham thought he could win he would have an election.

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Why?

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:56

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:31

Immigration from the last few years needs to be significantly reversed, and this will still be true in 3 years time. The phrase "immigration is down" to mean "we have slightly slowed down the intake rate but it's still significantly higher than it ever has been historically, and still significantly higher than a rate which would enable integration" is disingenuous in the extreme.

Whether Reform have the practical ability to do this is another question, but comparing them to other parties I judge that they have the best combination of chance of being elected and willingness to act on the issue.

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And then what?

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 13:55

Binface just made an idiot of himself

77yearsyoung · 14/08/2026 13:54

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:50

I'm unconvinced that you understand why the main parties stood down in this particular by-election.

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I understand.

Scotiasdarling · 14/08/2026 13:53

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 13:48

Not if he thought he could win more decisively in 2029.

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I don't think even he is quite stupid enough to believe that!

77yearsyoung · 14/08/2026 13:52

LuckyHazelFox · 14/08/2026 12:48

Do you want to remind her of Josh Simons, or shall I!

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Hurry up!!!! Josh Simmons deserves a mention.

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 13:48

Scotiasdarling · 14/08/2026 13:47

Don't make me laugh, if Burnham thought he could win he would have an election.

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Not if he thought he could win more decisively in 2029.

Scotiasdarling · 14/08/2026 13:47

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 12:21

There won't be an early general election. I think Burnham is savvy enough to realise that people are exhausted from too many elections held for various reasons.

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Don't make me laugh, if Burnham thought he could win he would have an election.

itsgettingweird · 14/08/2026 13:44

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:22

Why what? Why do I support Reform? Same reason anyone else does, I think immigration is an existential issue and I'm a near single-issue voter.

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So if your a single issue voter - which is your right.

What will you do if the immigration issue is solved via another party?

Will it remain your single issue and will you remain sure only reform can solve it or will you focus on another single issue? And what would that single issue likely be?

You don’t find many people honest enough to admit being a single issue voter so I find it interesting.

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 13:39

‘Culturally incompatible’ with who?

77yearsyoung · 14/08/2026 13:39

Darker · 14/08/2026 13:29

Brexit increased immigration and made it harder to control.

I’d trust Farage on immigration as much as I’d trust him on the fishing industry.

I think the lackadaisical attitude of the French authorities accepting our cash but waving the migrants off in their boats has a lot to do with the numbers and why haven't they closed the superstores selling life jackets by the lorry load.
Why are we still paying them.
An issue that's such a hot potato no party really wants to tackle it.
Brexit happened in the March same month Covid hit which was a more immediate issue. Brexit was put on the back burner and never recovered.

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 13:38

Farage has literally been pictured on the cliffs at Dover. I haven’t heard him talking much about ‘low skilled legal immigration’. On that then, who do you think makes up most of the work force in social care and many auxiliary areas of the NHS?

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 13:37

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · 14/08/2026 13:32

Immigration isn't down if you think that you are being gaslighted by Labour.

I suppose the ONS and Migration Observatory are gaslighting you too.

Estimates from the Office for National Statistics suggest that total net migration was 171,000 in 2025. This figure is lower than net migration levels during the 2010s and represents a sharp decline compared to the year ending March 2023, when net migration peaked at a historical high of 944,000 (Figure 2).

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

Net migration to the UK - Migration Observatory

An overview of net migration in the UK – defined as the difference between immigration and emigration of people moving for at least a year.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 13:35

Because Reforms key policy has been to ‘stop the small boats’. It’s the slogan they use all the time.

randomchap · 14/08/2026 13:34

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · 14/08/2026 13:32

Immigration isn't down if you think that you are being gaslighted by Labour.

Where are you getting your figures from?

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:33

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 13:32

Quite. And additionally do you honestly believe that if the small boats are stopped and everyone not of Celtic origin is sent back to where they came from that will fix all the other issues we have in this country?
Do you think there are other issues in this country? Or is it just the asylum seekers and migrants causing the whole lot? Genuinely interested in your point of view.

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Why do people always assume immigration means small boats? I'm of course dissatisfied with the inability to police the border, but the vast majority of harmful immigration in the last few years has been very low-skilled and culturally-incompatible legal immigration.

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · 14/08/2026 13:32

Immigration isn't down if you think that you are being gaslighted by Labour.

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 13:32

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:25

No, why do you hope they form the next government? Immigration is down and theres still a long time to go until the next GE. It might not be a pressing issue by then, or we might need to look at it differently in the light of factors such as climate change and our own ageing population.

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Quite. And additionally do you honestly believe that if the small boats are stopped and everyone not of Celtic origin is sent back to where they came from that will fix all the other issues we have in this country?
Do you think there are other issues in this country? Or is it just the asylum seekers and migrants causing the whole lot? Genuinely interested in your point of view.

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:31

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 13:25

No, why do you hope they form the next government? Immigration is down and theres still a long time to go until the next GE. It might not be a pressing issue by then, or we might need to look at it differently in the light of factors such as climate change and our own ageing population.

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Immigration from the last few years needs to be significantly reversed, and this will still be true in 3 years time. The phrase "immigration is down" to mean "we have slightly slowed down the intake rate but it's still significantly higher than it ever has been historically, and still significantly higher than a rate which would enable integration" is disingenuous in the extreme.

Whether Reform have the practical ability to do this is another question, but comparing them to other parties I judge that they have the best combination of chance of being elected and willingness to act on the issue.

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Darker · 14/08/2026 13:29

Brexit increased immigration and made it harder to control.

I’d trust Farage on immigration as much as I’d trust him on the fishing industry.

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