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To think Count Binface is doing a great job in the Clacton by-election?

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Darker · 10/08/2026 11:43

Count down to Bin Day!

Count Binface has been out bigging-up Clacton and drawing attention to its potential.

It’s a really positive campaign.

I don’t think he’ll win but I’d love it if he did. I think he’d be brilliant.

And if he doesn’t, I think other candidates could learn a lot from his approach.

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PerkingFaintly · 14/08/2026 18:53

From my observation you now spend your time lecturing British people on how what being British should look like – in your not-so-humble opinion. Grin

And constantly saying "we" as if you speak for all British people.GrinGrin

I mean, I'm born here, and I don't imagine I can speak for all British people.

PerkingFaintly · 14/08/2026 18:53

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 13:22

Why what? Why do I support Reform? Same reason anyone else does, I think immigration is an existential issue and I'm a near single-issue voter.

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I'm a near single-issue voter.

And, an immigrant.

IIRC?

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 18:38

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 18:22

Have you lived anywhere other than the UK and if so where?

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Oh, have you? Fun game of let's detract!

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 18:22

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 17:45

Oh you don't really want a rundown of the reasons do you? This has been going on for years, people pretending "they" are flocking here for our oh so generous benefits. Please tell me what an asylum seeker is entitled to while waiting for their case to be heard.

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Have you lived anywhere other than the UK and if so where?

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 17:45

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 17:09

More generous than many other countries- why do you think they risk their lives to get here?

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Oh you don't really want a rundown of the reasons do you? This has been going on for years, people pretending "they" are flocking here for our oh so generous benefits. Please tell me what an asylum seeker is entitled to while waiting for their case to be heard.

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 17:10

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:05

Yes, I think the care worker visa was one of the worst visas in terms of bringing in people who will be long-term state dependents (the main applicants and their dependents) and who have no obligation to be care workers after they get ILR.

Personalised round-the-clock care is an expensive luxury which we've decided to grant as a right to everyone in Britain. Fine, but we'll pay the cost one way or the other - either directly as wages today, or by the increased long-term costs of supporting migrant workers in a generous welfare state.

Legal immigration numbers broadly (not just care workers) dwarf illegal/irregular; in every sector there has been mass low-skilled migration which is not to the long-term benefit of the UK (e.g., visas for minimart/vape/kebab shops, visas for commodity IT body-shops, family visas for chain migration etc).

As a person who managed care services for 24 years I can tell you that you are woefully misinformed on both how care work is staffed, the rules around bringing in dependents, the total reliance on immigrants to look after our older and other vulnerable people (and given that, how would it be correct to say they can can come but not with their families-you realise we need these people yes?), and ‘the luxury of 24 hour care’ we give people in this country ‘as standard’.

God help you if you get old or need help from social care or the NHS is all I can say. You had better hope your mate Nigel hasn’t ’sorted out immigration’ by then. Or at least not without a solid plan for social care and the NHS-which I haven’t yet heard from Reform-has if even been mentioned apart from them mooting some sort of American style insurance system (has he got any mates that that might benefit I wonder?).

Allseeingallknowing · 14/08/2026 17:09

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 15:19

We don't have a "generous welfare state".

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More generous than many other countries- why do you think they risk their lives to get here?

sittingonabeach · 14/08/2026 16:47

Maybe he thinks they are in the bin!

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Darker · 14/08/2026 16:44

Maybe they are all in a pothole…

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BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 16:10

Of course. So he thinks there are another 150 odd votes down the back of a ballot box somewhere. All for him.

randomchap · 14/08/2026 16:00

Darker · 14/08/2026 15:55

In other news, Laurence Fox is demanding a recount.

https://www.clactonandfrintongazette.co.uk/news/26463595.laurence-fox-demands-recount-clacton-by-election/

He needs his deposit back.

BIossomtoes · 14/08/2026 15:57

What a tit.

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ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 15:22

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:12

Have you ever spoken to someone who lived in an impoverished country, who's watched multiple children die from malnutrition and diseases easily preventable with tablets? Who lives in unhygienic squalor with no access to fresh water and with stitched-together supermarket plastic bags as the "walls" of their "house"?

I have, I've lived in such countries. As a mother I can't imagine what that would be like to have to raise my children like that. I would do literally anything to escape it. I'd break immigration law a hundred times a day for a chance at a better life.

I have complete sympathy for even "economic migrants" who aren't fleeing war. Is it more terrible to watch a child slowly starve, or to watch them blown up by a bomb?

But there are millions, billions even of people who live in conditions like this.

There is no way the UK can take them all. There's just no way.

Am I cruel?

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The UK doesn't have to take everyone. Why are we accepting that things have to be this way and the only solution is migration? Perhaps not cutting foreign aid would be a start. And another helpful thing would be not accepting baseless anti-migrant rhetoric of the type normalised by Farage's Reform and carried even further by self styled "vigilantes".

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 15:19

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:05

Yes, I think the care worker visa was one of the worst visas in terms of bringing in people who will be long-term state dependents (the main applicants and their dependents) and who have no obligation to be care workers after they get ILR.

Personalised round-the-clock care is an expensive luxury which we've decided to grant as a right to everyone in Britain. Fine, but we'll pay the cost one way or the other - either directly as wages today, or by the increased long-term costs of supporting migrant workers in a generous welfare state.

Legal immigration numbers broadly (not just care workers) dwarf illegal/irregular; in every sector there has been mass low-skilled migration which is not to the long-term benefit of the UK (e.g., visas for minimart/vape/kebab shops, visas for commodity IT body-shops, family visas for chain migration etc).

We don't have a "generous welfare state".

77yearsyoung · 14/08/2026 15:14

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:12

Have you ever spoken to someone who lived in an impoverished country, who's watched multiple children die from malnutrition and diseases easily preventable with tablets? Who lives in unhygienic squalor with no access to fresh water and with stitched-together supermarket plastic bags as the "walls" of their "house"?

I have, I've lived in such countries. As a mother I can't imagine what that would be like to have to raise my children like that. I would do literally anything to escape it. I'd break immigration law a hundred times a day for a chance at a better life.

I have complete sympathy for even "economic migrants" who aren't fleeing war. Is it more terrible to watch a child slowly starve, or to watch them blown up by a bomb?

But there are millions, billions even of people who live in conditions like this.

There is no way the UK can take them all. There's just no way.

Am I cruel?

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No, you're sensible.

hedgeknight · 14/08/2026 15:14

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:05

Yes, I think the care worker visa was one of the worst visas in terms of bringing in people who will be long-term state dependents (the main applicants and their dependents) and who have no obligation to be care workers after they get ILR.

Personalised round-the-clock care is an expensive luxury which we've decided to grant as a right to everyone in Britain. Fine, but we'll pay the cost one way or the other - either directly as wages today, or by the increased long-term costs of supporting migrant workers in a generous welfare state.

Legal immigration numbers broadly (not just care workers) dwarf illegal/irregular; in every sector there has been mass low-skilled migration which is not to the long-term benefit of the UK (e.g., visas for minimart/vape/kebab shops, visas for commodity IT body-shops, family visas for chain migration etc).

Where do you get your numbers from?

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:12

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:51

Have you ever spoken to someone who's escaped a war torn country, forced to leave family members behind and had to spend months and years desperately trying to be reunited?

I'm going to guess at no, because if you had, you wouldn't be able to be so casually cruel.

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Have you ever spoken to someone who lived in an impoverished country, who's watched multiple children die from malnutrition and diseases easily preventable with tablets? Who lives in unhygienic squalor with no access to fresh water and with stitched-together supermarket plastic bags as the "walls" of their "house"?

I have, I've lived in such countries. As a mother I can't imagine what that would be like to have to raise my children like that. I would do literally anything to escape it. I'd break immigration law a hundred times a day for a chance at a better life.

I have complete sympathy for even "economic migrants" who aren't fleeing war. Is it more terrible to watch a child slowly starve, or to watch them blown up by a bomb?

But there are millions, billions even of people who live in conditions like this.

There is no way the UK can take them all. There's just no way.

Am I cruel?

OneAmberFinch · 14/08/2026 15:05

Yes, I think the care worker visa was one of the worst visas in terms of bringing in people who will be long-term state dependents (the main applicants and their dependents) and who have no obligation to be care workers after they get ILR.

Personalised round-the-clock care is an expensive luxury which we've decided to grant as a right to everyone in Britain. Fine, but we'll pay the cost one way or the other - either directly as wages today, or by the increased long-term costs of supporting migrant workers in a generous welfare state.

Legal immigration numbers broadly (not just care workers) dwarf illegal/irregular; in every sector there has been mass low-skilled migration which is not to the long-term benefit of the UK (e.g., visas for minimart/vape/kebab shops, visas for commodity IT body-shops, family visas for chain migration etc).

AImportantMermaid · 14/08/2026 15:03

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:31

He wanted to prove that the electorate, regardless of the press and the condemnation of the other parties still wanted him as their representative and it was resounding success for him.

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What a pointless, expensive, and egotistical exercise that makes fuck all difference to anybody. He could have run a focus group if he was that bothered. The only reason he did it was because he wanted to stop the investigation into the £5m bung he took but didn’t declare. He was poorly advised and wasn’t told that the investigation would restart if he was reelected.

He’ll be a laughing stock in the commons if he ever actually shows up. To barely increase his majority when no other parties were standing, and to see his nearest competitor, a man with a bin on his head, get a quarter of the vote share and almost half the number of votes he got, must be galling.

Warmlight1 · 14/08/2026 15:02

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 11:38

So OP, i like the fact you are a 'Disrupter' showing your hand but in a kid glove.

I posted on Wednesday about the one sided vitriol of mumsnet on this subject.

As i have said previously I'm not standing with any Party but it was obvious from the start Farage called this by-election in order to prove his constituents still wanted him to represent them.

Is it coincidence that all other parties decided as one to not put up candidates? No, it isn’t, they decided jointly that it was their one chance to remove him before he became a threat to the establishment. This is not democratic behaviour.

This has been a stitch up.

As adults with a modicum of intelligence it must be obvious to all of you that the population of this country have every right to vote as they think fit.
While you are all typing away, deriding the constituents of Clacton most of them are on the shop floor wondering what is going to happen next. Which tax will go up, how will they cover the cost of childcare. Who is defending the Realm, what to do about the NHS.

And you, most of you prefer to joke and laugh and become vitriolic.
Count Binface stood for reducing bus fares from £2 to £1.99 and for selling a 99 ice cream for 99p.
The other parties stood back because they are scared.
This is silly, childish behaviour.

For the record I've never voted Reform, I've voted Tory.

"No, it isn’t, they decided jointly that it was their one chance to remove him before he became a threat to the establishment".
Eer I don't think so. They decided jointly that they wanted nothing to do with his machinations and they were right. Sometimes it's important to provide a lead no matter if it falls on some deaf ears. 9000 people heard.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:51

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:45

Immigrants come in through legal channels, they are a great support to our country.
Migrants on the other hand, leave their native country either for financial reasons or because of war, most leaving behind their family members to cope alone.

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Have you ever spoken to someone who's escaped a war torn country, forced to leave family members behind and had to spend months and years desperately trying to be reunited?

I'm going to guess at no, because if you had, you wouldn't be able to be so casually cruel.

piscofrisco · 14/08/2026 14:49

lollylimejuice · 14/08/2026 14:45

Immigrants come in through legal channels, they are a great support to our country.
Migrants on the other hand, leave their native country either for financial reasons or because of war, most leaving behind their family members to cope alone.

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OneAmberFinch said she has more of an issue with legal low skilled immigrants, than the small boats.
so yes the care workers that have applied and are here legally…. Im just asking her how she thinks social care and the NHS will function when Reform ‘sort immigration out ‘

sittingonabeach · 14/08/2026 14:48

I like how Farage has been talking to his constituents today, showing up for work and showing what he will be doing for them as their MP. Oh surprise, surprise he hasn’t. He’s talked about himself, from a distance.

ClarkeandNewman · 14/08/2026 14:47

sittingonabeach · 14/08/2026 14:36

How much actual work has Farage done as a politician?

He's turned up to Parliament at least once! Shame it was to capitalise on the murder of a teenager and smirk as if it was funny...

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