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Friend and Daughter Issues

93 replies

MondeoFan · Today 08:42

Please let me know if I’m being unreasonable here. I have a good friend that I see every weekend. Sometimes we go to a park, cinema, restaurant, pub garden etc that type of thing. She has been suffering with her mental health for a couple years and I’ve been supporting her with this best I can.
The issue is her DD behaviour. Her DD is 4 years younger than my DD but they get on ok and we can normally go somewhere suitable for both of them.
My friend has basically no control over her DD. Her DD is quite mean to my DD so much so that my DD is saying she doesn’t want to meet up with them anymore. I know people will say it’s kids being kids but her DD hits my daughter and spits at her to get her own way. E.g if my daughter sits down after running around for quite a while she will try and pull her up and if my DD doesn’t want to get up she will spit at her. Last night she kept hitting her with the hula hoop in her back. My friend either says nothing or tells her off in a lighthearted way.

ive tried to intervene in the past and the child has pulled a face and tried to spit at me. What would you do? I’m trying to be supportive of my friend and they do have a 4 year age gap so my DD is really well behaved tbh as I’m much stricter than my friend. It’s horrible to see as my DD has been bullied at school about her looks and now I feel like I’m allowing her to be bullied essentially by this child as she’s quite mean.

i told my DD everytime she does something say “no thank you” etc

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MySneakyLion · Today 09:23

This can’t be real. No one would allow someone’s kid to hit and spit on their kid more than once surely?

If it is real, OP you are letting your DD be physically assaulted every week. Thats setting her up to expect and tolerate abuse in future relationships as it’s her normal. It’s pathetic really.

FGS put her first, no more meet-ups.

RitaFires · Today 09:21

You're prioritising this friend because you perceive her as vulnerable and you feel like you're responsible for her in some way. The most vulnerable people involved are the children and neither you nor your friend are doing right by your daughters. The person you should be protecting is telling you that she is being bullied and you're sitting back and watching and telling her same time next week.

Listen to your daughter, you're teaching her to be a doormat and that other people are more important than her and are entitled to abuse her. Is that really what you want her to think?

Electricsausages · Today 09:20

Would you be happy if it was a child at school bullying your child?
either stop the meet ups or meet without the kids
your child will resent you for not protecting her

Sparrowsandbudgies · Today 09:16

Stop seeing the friend. She isn’t your friend at all if she’s allowing her dd to bully your dd in this way. Every weekend like this is far too much, spend time on your own with your dd.

KatyKan · Today 09:16

You need to tell your friend very clearly that spitting is totally unacceptable.

PepsiBook · Today 09:15

You're putting your friend above your own daughter.
Why on earth would you force her to meet up weekly with someone who is spitting at her and bullying her? Your poor child, do you not realise what damage YOU are causing her?

MoveOnTheCards · Today 09:15

Please stop allowing your daughter to be bullied by this feral child. She should be your priority, not your friend.

KL29 · Today 09:14

Stop prioritising your friend over your daughter, if I saw another child spitting in my child’s face I would go absolutely mental and if your “friend” brushed it off I’d tell her what I thought about her parenting skills.

Lurkingandlearning · Today 09:10

You can't let that continue so you are going to have to stop meeting up with your friend. There is nothing you can do to fix her mental health issues because you aren't qualified to do that. You might be able to do her daughter a favour though by telling your friend that she is letting her daughter down by not addressing her appalling behaviour. Spitting is absolutely disgusting and no one is ever going to tolerate that, many people will react a lot more harshly than you have and when they do that will be down to your friend's lack of parenting.

musicandmen · Today 09:10

How old are the girls? Do you know that spitting as well as being disgusting is counted as assault?

why do you keep putting your daughter in these avoidable situations?
what would happened if your daughter turned round and hit her back?

ClarissaImissHer · Today 09:08

When the child spits at your daughter, you want her to say “no thank you”?! This can’t be real.

Sounds like you’re a single mum and don’t want to give up a busy weekend.

Stop meeting the friend and tell her why. You’re enabling the child to bully your daughter.

Wherethedogsits · Today 09:05

You are allowing your dd to be bullied and making her spend time with her bully.
Why would you do that?

You can stop it by putting your dd first.

YourWildAmberSloth · Today 09:05

Your daughter has been very clear - why aren't you listening to her? She does not want to meet up with them so she shouldn't have to. Every flipping weekend the three of you are subjecting your daughter to this! You could learn a thing or two from her about having boundaries. There's nothing to stop you and your friend meeting up without DC. If that isn't an option then you don't see her at all - simple really.

Hoardasurass · Today 09:04

@MondeoFan seriously what are you thinking.
You are choosing to allow your daughter to be repeatedly physically assaulted by this woman's brat so you can spend time with your so called friend, thats disgraceful. You need to protect your daughter and stop all meetings with this woman and her brat before you destroy your relationship with your daughter.
Why do you think that your wants and your friends "needs" are more important than your daughters physical and mental health?
You need to make it 100% clear to both your dd and friend that you will never meet up with her and both girls again due to her daughter's disgusting abuse behaviour and the mums inability to parent her child

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · Today 09:01

Spitting? I would be furious at my friend if they let their child spit on mine.

TheMixedGirl · Today 09:00

Do not make your daughter see these people again. Either suggest something alone with friend (adults only) or be honest and tell her "unfortunately my daughter is not keen due to the hitting and spitting" you need to put your daughter first. I am shocked you are even asking this.

MoistVonL · Today 08:59

YABU to subject your daughter to this.

In future, child-free meets only, even if that means you can't see each other often, or you go around in the evening for a chat after your respective children are in bed.

darkandgloomy · Today 08:59

Why are you allowing your daughter to be bullied? Stand up for her. Stop meeting your friend with the dc and tell your friend why!

CrowMate · Today 08:58

I would not be seeing my friend with my DD any more and telling her why. I understand you’re supporting a friend, but that cannot come ahead of your daughter.

You wouldn’t choose to meet every weekend with someone who assaulted and spat at you, why should your child be made to?

I’d be looking at ways to stay connected with my friend that didn’t involve the DC.

Teacaketravesty · Today 08:58

I’m not surprised your daughter’s getting bullied. You’re teaching her that it’s ok, by not standing up for her or teaching her how to stand up for herself. (‘No thank you’ needs to be followed with ‘mum I want to go now please because X spat on me’) You’re also modelling pushing through your own discomfort for the perceived comfort of others.

KingCatMeowInSpace · Today 08:55

How old are the DC?

Firefly100 · Today 08:55

Meet the friend without your daughter present (or don’t meet her if that’s not possible). Tell her why - your daughter and she don’t get along. Your daughter should not be forced to endure unpleasant company.
You should have stood up for your daughter when she was being treated badly and intervened with your friend’s daughter if your friend did not. Make sure you do if it happens again with another child.
Alongside this, teach your daughter some skills to stand up for herself. Role play what she might say / do (tbh you might want to do some research into this one yourself as you don’t seem to be able to advocate for your child atm - learn some skills you can pass on to her)

MerryUmberHedgehog · Today 08:55

You dont say how old they are. 4 years actually is quite a big age gap for children to play. Spitting is an absolute no no and she sounds like a little horror. If your friend wont say something then you should tell her off. You need to educate your daughter to stand up to her. Failing that then dont take your daughter when you meet up or take a friend as well?

HoppityBun · Today 08:54

Is it that you’re worried how doing anything about the situation will affect your friendship and / or your friend’s mental health?

In my opinion it’s wrong to continue putting your daughter through this. Can you say to your friend that her DD doesn’t seem to like your DD at the minute so you think it would be best if they don’t meet for a whille?

itsgettingweird · Today 08:52

Please end the friendship.

I was in this situation many years ago whereby o should have ended it sooner because of the way her kids treated my ds.

You’ll find people who value you.

It’s hard because you want to support your friend. But you aren’t helping anyone allowing this to carry on - least of all your friend who has no motivation to change things under the current situation.

Of you want to be friends with her make it cease it’s adult only meet ups from now on.