To ask for advice and support around losing 6+ stone between now and May?

@AnnaQuayRules so, Mounjaro or Wegovy can be offered to T2 diabetics for blood sugar control. That’s a different set of prescribing guidelines to those for people who are obese and are being prescribed for weight loss alone. The OP isn’t T2 diabetic, so she wouldn’t be offered WLI based on her weight alone.

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What an incredibly helpful post 🙄🙄🙄

YABU

But that is the same for any diet!

With your activity and diet, the jabs will be perfect. They truly are life changing. I honestly think they replace something missing in some of our bodies’.

Side effects - less hunger, eating less when you have a meal and a bit of constipation which is down to me and not drinking enough.

@Thursday5pmisginoclock the bit you’re not quoting is the part that explains that there is not enough evidence to draw any robust conclusions.

Never mind that all of those concerns apply to any diet and can be countered easily. As those of us who are long term WLI users can and have attested to.

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/lack-of-support-for-people-on-weight-loss-drugs-leaves-them-vulnerable-to-nutritional-deficiencies

“Inadequate micronutrient intake can put people at risk of a range of conditions, from fatigue and an impaired immune response to hair loss and osteoporosis. Loss of lean mass – in most cases, muscle – increases the risk of weakness, injury and falls.”

Calories not only the issue. The suagra you eat are also calories and het stored as fat i.e the carbs, breads and potatoes etc. You need to do low carb high protein.

I've lost 4 stone from reducing carb intake. Our bodies don't need carbs in the quantities we eat them.... and I walk at least 10k steps a day with my dogs. I also got a studio bike and it's amazing how much fitter I feel.

I'd be wary of jabs due to the impact on your muscles. It's better to try first and then move in that direction if you feel it's not working.

this.

calorie counting does work. Keep at it.

@Thursday5pmisginoclock what side effects make it not worth using weight loss injections? I’ve been on them two years, and I don’t know what you’re referring to. Similarly, I don’t have any muscle wastage. I also have greatly improved my diet and do a huge amount more exercise than I used to when I was 22 stone. So I find your comments to be a bit puzzling.

Of course, the OP doesn’t need or have to take medication if it’s not necessary and she doesn’t want to.

that doesn’t make sense, you don’t really think the drugs cause muscle wastage, right? That’s weight loss, not the meds, you need to consume enough protein and work out to mitigate. It’d the same with any weight loss method.

snd they don’t melt the fat off, you need to diet, right,and eat clean snd healthy or you will have gastro issues.

it does feel like you don’t understand the meds as what you wrote makes little sense,

It’s so sad that so many people are jumping on the “get the jabs” like it is some sort of miracle cure, they of course “work” but the side affects are not worth it, the muscle wastage will be so damaging for one. And they don’t resolve the underlying issue of poor diet and exercise which if they are right all this is resolved.

my advice looking at your diet:

1. ditch the “calorie controlled” and processed foods and switch to making protein and veg rich meals like stir fry’s or tray bakes. Ditch as much processed food as possible. Cereal and bread included! If you do like bread buy a PROPER sourdough, slice and freeze it and have a slice occasionally with an egg, humous or avocado etc
2. skimmed milk is a con, you need whole foods for the good fats. Switch your muller yogurts for full fat Greek yogurt and fruit.
3. get your sugar levels down as low as possible. Try some low sugar cookies books for ideas. This is the main issue most people have. Don’t count calories count sugar grams!
4. add some strength training and HIIT into the exercise plan, 10-15 mins of daily squats and push ups etc will be as good as a walk and building muscle mass will burn more fat.

Pay for a personal trainer and lift weights 4 times a week.

If you must buy bread, then freeze it. You can cut down the amount you eat, without wasting it. Freezing also makes bread healthier by transforming the starch into resistant starch, as does toasting it.

Exercise is fantastic for you for all sorts of reasons, but for weight loss focus on what you eat.

In your original list there were v few real foods / non UPFs aside from eggs and milk.

Make your plate 70% veggies for lunch and dinner and start eating real food. Read ingredients lists of everything you buy.

Your palate will eventually adjust and things like your muller rice, foam shapes, ready meals, etc will start tasting a bit weird and rank.

That's my experience anyway.

There was recently a thread on here from the perspective of a close friend about the same situation exactly (having believed the wedding preparations tale which obvs could have been true in that case iyswim).

That might be worth looking at too. I think the same point was made about muscle loss.

If you go on a GLP-1 and it does nothing you can switch to a different one. They don’t all work for everyone. My friend was on Mounjaro for 6 months with zero effect, should have switched sooner as Wegovy works for them.

I’ve lost 40kgs in 2 years. BMI 42 to 29. On Wegovy but very limited exercise with ME/CFS. Had to track and weigh all my food at first, to retrain portion sizes and get rid of overly high calorie foods, eat a lot more vegetables and reduce carbs.

Good luck OP!

Mounjaro changed my life - I am 9st down in 1 year 8 months. I combined Mounjaro with intermittent fasting and calorie counting.

I disagree with PP that walking is not enough - I walk 10,000 steps every day. I can't run due to joint issues in my ankles.

Just be careful you don't overwhelm yourself with too many changes all at once. I have done that before and then fallen off the wagon massively as it was too much. Start with basic changes and build up from there.

As others have said GLP1. I'm 5'7 and have gone from 16st10lb (size 18-20) to 9st8lb (size 8) in just over 18mo. I never went higher than 7.5ml and am back down on 5ml at present and will reduce to 2.5 at xmas. Its not easy as you can you still have to watch what you eat and eat healthy (anything greasy or too fatty and I'm on the loo for days) but it does really help with appetite suppression. I was already doing intermittent fasting before GLP1 and have stuck to this while on it as it works for me but a friend does 3 small meals a day so just depends on what works for you.