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AIBU to install cameras because I suspect my husband is hiding affair?

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Lovingmynewlifestyle · 04/08/2026 19:48

I need a little help. I have a strong suspicion that my husband is having / starting an affair. He has recently had two meetings (meals out - he paid) that I know of with a married friend, they knew each other before I met him. They talk frequently via text and I think a second Facebook account (that I don’t have access to). He has never told me about this I discovered a message by accident and have since found proof. I think he is now hiding how he communicates via hidden apps in his iPhone, he is very tech aware, and this these hidden apps are protected by touch ID that I don’t know how to get around.

The thing is I am going away tomorrow to visit family 150 miles away. I think this OW is coming around to my house to listen to music. I can’t prove 100%.

Am I unreasonable to get internal cameras? I can organise this tonight if I order now via prime. But I don’t know what to order, any suggestions?? It has to be easy to install. I am not tech savvy.

I have met this person, and we are due out as a group soon. Not leaving my husband so don’t suggest. Need to confront with evidence.

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RigsbysCat · 11/09/2026 22:07

I am glad that you have managed to tell him how much this has all affected you, but the fact he is still messaging her and not telling you as you asked him to, means he has either not been listening, or he just doesn't care enough to stop.

However I don't know what the answer to achieving an outcome that you want for your own peace of mind is.

You say you want to stay together and I can understand and respect this after such a long marriage but he still seems to be controlling the situation, while you are left to rather helplessly react.

Have you asked him to cut this woman off? Have you asked him to stop discussing personal matters with her? A friendship is one thing but he has an unhealthy degree of emotional investment here that I would find worrying.

For the good of your long term mental health does something not need to change? I think his attitude towards you lacks respect for both your feelings and for your role as his wife, but only you can decide whether to continue tolerating this or to start issuing ultimatums. At the moment he is having his cake and eating it.

Doubledenim305 · 11/09/2026 19:18

He's still messaging her. I absolutely would not be ok with that. He's wanting both her and his married life. It's up to you if that's acceptable to you. I get it tho. A life together. It's hard to end. Especially if you still like him and otherwise things are ok. But yeah, u know what I'm saying.

Sunnibee · 11/09/2026 19:15

OP I'm so confused by this thread. Have you established he's having an affair or not?

Tamtim · 11/09/2026 08:16

I hope he sorts his shit out and realises the effect this has had on you. I hope you can overcome everything and eventually move on. You have stayed calm and reasonable throughout. You shouldn’t be judged for originally wanting to catch him out on a camera at your door.

Notquitethetruth · 11/09/2026 07:38

You need to talk some more. You are still.keeping a lot to yourself which is not good for you or your relationship. He is still maintaining contact with her which is hurting you. All of these thoughts stored in your head with no outlet is not good for your mental health.
I wouldn't wait for the upcoming lunch as this is going to be difficult for you. Talk to him now. Good luck.

Lovingmynewlifestyle · 10/09/2026 21:38

RigsbysCat · 07/09/2026 12:52

How are things for you now OP? I hope you have managed to find some sort of resolution.

Thank you for asking.
My honest answer is I have been up and down.
One night in bed my husband ask ‘are you okay?’. I expect he was thinking I would say fine, x is on my mind (something to do with my adult children. but this was not my conversation. I was perfectly calm and said directly how things had affected me. We had an hour of conversation, no shouting.
He has said he doesn’t want to leave me and I don’t want to leave him.
Some will not understand this.

This was several weeks ago. I have asked that he tells me when he makes contact, asked for deletions of messages not to happen again.
Messages are less often - but he is not telling me about them. They are not flirting anymore, but I still don’t trust things.

I still check his messages - and I hate that I do this. I hate that he shares our personal life with her, but not other friends. When I say share, a picture of our holiday / lunch out /dog. Nothing really personal. But not something that is just with her and not other friends.
We have a group lunch coming up soon, I will see.
Nothing is perfect and I think he may feel ‘I am over it’; but I am not.

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RigsbysCat · 07/09/2026 12:52

How are things for you now OP? I hope you have managed to find some sort of resolution.

CrazyMidget · 17/08/2026 17:41

Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 17/08/2026 01:10

I think this is really good advice.
IF and only IF you do still want a future with him may I also suggest:

Yes proactive rather than reactive 100%
Come down hard NOW, it’s the only way you will be sure he cuts off all contact, and cut off ALL contact is absolutely necessary.
He gives you access / and Face ID to ALL his accounts. He will agree if he wants to stay married to you.
He agrees that he will never ever contact her again.
He tells you everything and gives you access now (b4 he deletes everything)
CONTACT HER HUSBAND - don’t tell yours that you are doing this, you may well learn more about what’s been going on and (assuming you are still wanting to stay with him) when the sh@T hits the fan from both partners, their cosy little togethers and their relationship won’t seem at all exciting anymore.
You say the OW is married and won’t want to blow up 30+ years - then she shouldn’t have been in secret contact with another woman’s husband /her ex partner.

“you are always on my mind”
And more messages.
Did you meet up for lunch with his friend ?

Please take action and let him know you are not waiting around for him to “sort out his past”
I wish you all the best 🌺

I don't think I would contact the husband. There are many reasons not to do that. Not least is the law of unintended consequences. Keep your side of the street clean.

https://www.affairhealing.com/blog/telling-the-ap-spouse

Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 17/08/2026 01:10

RigsbysCat · 16/08/2026 21:42

Has he explained what "sorting out the past" actually involves?

Assuming you want to save your marriage, rather than just walk away, I think your H needs to be crystal clear about what is actually going on with this woman. Is it an emotional affair, has it become physical, what are his feelings for her?

Of course as he has already lied to you and continues to lie regarding what is going on, I doubt you you can rely on much that he says. Only you can know if the trust is gone permanently.

I think you need to somehow take back control of this situation and become proactive rather than reactive. Is there somewhere you can go for a few weeks to consider your future and what you want? I'd tell him that I could not bear to be around him when he shows me no respect, lies to my face and totally disregards my feelings and then leave him to try and find a way back from this mess of his own creation. Perhaps this is the wake up call he needs.

You need to decide if you actually still even want a future with him or not.

Edited

I think this is really good advice.
IF and only IF you do still want a future with him may I also suggest:

Yes proactive rather than reactive 100%
Come down hard NOW, it’s the only way you will be sure he cuts off all contact, and cut off ALL contact is absolutely necessary.
He gives you access / and Face ID to ALL his accounts. He will agree if he wants to stay married to you.
He agrees that he will never ever contact her again.
He tells you everything and gives you access now (b4 he deletes everything)
CONTACT HER HUSBAND - don’t tell yours that you are doing this, you may well learn more about what’s been going on and (assuming you are still wanting to stay with him) when the sh@T hits the fan from both partners, their cosy little togethers and their relationship won’t seem at all exciting anymore.
You say the OW is married and won’t want to blow up 30+ years - then she shouldn’t have been in secret contact with another woman’s husband /her ex partner.

“you are always on my mind”
And more messages.
Did you meet up for lunch with his friend ?

Please take action and let him know you are not waiting around for him to “sort out his past”
I wish you all the best 🌺

3within3 · 16/08/2026 23:33

Wiseowl18 · 08/08/2026 12:00

The expression I find extremely odd is
" lunch arranged for next week with husband & his friend & me" In my head I am imagining you saying darling if you and...... are arranging a lunch date do you mind if I join you both.

If my husband arranged a social lunch date with another woman I doubt I'd be joining them. I wouldn't stick around to be part of that situation. As married couples we all have our own particular bounderies & for me this scenario crosses the line.

Edited

I think this might be what was mentioned in the original post that there was already an event arranged for them as a group soon

RigsbysCat · 16/08/2026 21:42

Has he explained what "sorting out the past" actually involves?

Assuming you want to save your marriage, rather than just walk away, I think your H needs to be crystal clear about what is actually going on with this woman. Is it an emotional affair, has it become physical, what are his feelings for her?

Of course as he has already lied to you and continues to lie regarding what is going on, I doubt you you can rely on much that he says. Only you can know if the trust is gone permanently.

I think you need to somehow take back control of this situation and become proactive rather than reactive. Is there somewhere you can go for a few weeks to consider your future and what you want? I'd tell him that I could not bear to be around him when he shows me no respect, lies to my face and totally disregards my feelings and then leave him to try and find a way back from this mess of his own creation. Perhaps this is the wake up call he needs.

You need to decide if you actually still even want a future with him or not.

JustaDomperignon · 16/08/2026 21:31

This is awful, I am so sorry. He shouldn't need to sort out the past, it is totally wrong. I wouldn't forgive my husband if I found out he had done this. Also he wouldn't forgive me if I linked up with an old flame. Maybe stay in the spare room for now, at least until you have sorted your feelings out.

OneFineDay22 · 16/08/2026 21:31

Sorry OP, I know some people do “come back” from or “get through” things like this, but I just don’t think I could. So, no advice from me, just sympathy. I’m so sorry.

Omgblueskys · 16/08/2026 21:30

Oh op sorry but did you go away and have the camera fitted to bedroom window, did ow pop around while you were away, sorry if I missed this part,

Sorry your having to deal with all this after so long together,

Honestly he needs to start explaining and reassuring you op,

What's your gut feeling now

3within3 · 16/08/2026 21:25

STRMOY = Songs That Remind Me Of You

sorry OP

Lovingmynewlifestyle · 16/08/2026 21:18

An update to this thread. The other day I walked out of our home. A new song to the playlist ‘STRMOY’ = Elvis - You are always on my mind.
I walked out, and never answered calls. came back an hour later and slept in the spare room.
The next night in bed he asked what was wrong, I explained that I knew he had met his ‘friend’ secretly x 2 and the messages - as many suggested lots of BS and lies. Because I had evidence gathered for three weeks I could counter every point. He tried to blame the other woman in this. I refuse to accept this. My issue is with him and not saying he was meeting a friend - if that is what this is.
Today he has ignored the night before (adult children over).
He has said he doesn’t want to leave, just sorting out the past.
A weird time here for me.
And yet another messages bleeps on his phone and then dismissed.
How do people come back from this?

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Sunnibee · 08/08/2026 16:06

Lovingmynewlifestyle · 07/08/2026 23:45

Thank you for all who have replied,
Someone said ‘what do you hope to get from your post’?
My answer is others points of views and thoughts.
This is an on going and live situation.
Lunch is arranged for next week with my husband and his friend. And me.

Life really feels weird right now. And I am thinking it through.
I really appreciate people’s thoughts about this. I am trying to stay even emotionally about this.
I suspect I am not the only person that is finding this odd.

How do you mean OP? Has he told you about her now?

OneFineDay22 · 08/08/2026 13:19

Lovingmynewlifestyle · 07/08/2026 23:45

Thank you for all who have replied,
Someone said ‘what do you hope to get from your post’?
My answer is others points of views and thoughts.
This is an on going and live situation.
Lunch is arranged for next week with my husband and his friend. And me.

Life really feels weird right now. And I am thinking it through.
I really appreciate people’s thoughts about this. I am trying to stay even emotionally about this.
I suspect I am not the only person that is finding this odd.

I think people were asking what do you hope to gain from the camera, rather than from the thread.

Have you spoken to your DH or do you intend to confront them at this lunch? I think we all have the same questions as Pp.

Wiseowl18 · 08/08/2026 12:00

Lovingmynewlifestyle · 07/08/2026 23:45

Thank you for all who have replied,
Someone said ‘what do you hope to get from your post’?
My answer is others points of views and thoughts.
This is an on going and live situation.
Lunch is arranged for next week with my husband and his friend. And me.

Life really feels weird right now. And I am thinking it through.
I really appreciate people’s thoughts about this. I am trying to stay even emotionally about this.
I suspect I am not the only person that is finding this odd.

The expression I find extremely odd is
" lunch arranged for next week with husband & his friend & me" In my head I am imagining you saying darling if you and...... are arranging a lunch date do you mind if I join you both.

If my husband arranged a social lunch date with another woman I doubt I'd be joining them. I wouldn't stick around to be part of that situation. As married couples we all have our own particular bounderies & for me this scenario crosses the line.

RigsbysCat · 07/08/2026 23:59

Lovingmynewlifestyle · 07/08/2026 23:45

Thank you for all who have replied,
Someone said ‘what do you hope to get from your post’?
My answer is others points of views and thoughts.
This is an on going and live situation.
Lunch is arranged for next week with my husband and his friend. And me.

Life really feels weird right now. And I am thinking it through.
I really appreciate people’s thoughts about this. I am trying to stay even emotionally about this.
I suspect I am not the only person that is finding this odd.

Sorry if being a bit dim OP, but did you get the confirmation footage that you wanted while away ? Have you now spoken to your DH about the situation? And if so whose idea was a lunch with all 3 of you?

Lovingmynewlifestyle · 07/08/2026 23:45

Thank you for all who have replied,
Someone said ‘what do you hope to get from your post’?
My answer is others points of views and thoughts.
This is an on going and live situation.
Lunch is arranged for next week with my husband and his friend. And me.

Life really feels weird right now. And I am thinking it through.
I really appreciate people’s thoughts about this. I am trying to stay even emotionally about this.
I suspect I am not the only person that is finding this odd.

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LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 06/08/2026 18:40

Shallysally · 06/08/2026 17:24

As I said in my post:
Yes, there is a high probability that, if there is anything but friendship with this woman that your H will lie.

I am not, and never will discount that people who cheat will lie and gaslight without a second thought. And they are willing to go to the extreme in order to be believed.

I can totally understand the need to have concrete proof of cheating, I’ve been on the receiving end and it’s an awful place to be.

But, this is a thirty year marriage that, from the information given by the OP, has otherwise been good.

I’m not saying she shouldn’t actively seek out proof, just that maybe a conversation with her H should factor into that somewhere.

"I’m not saying she shouldn’t actively seek out proof, just that maybe a conversation with her H should factor into that somewhere."

I agree. But because the vast majority of cheating spouses will lie straight (and often highly convincingly) right to their spouse's face, it is better to go into that conversation armed with irrefutable facts and evidence.

And even then the vast majority of cheaters will lie lie lie lie, and twist things, and flimflam the betrayed spouse into a bedazzled numbed state where they're not sure anymore whether it's night or day.

Shallysally · 06/08/2026 17:24

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 05/08/2026 22:15

All very good advice, except for:

"But just ask him. you don’t have to be accusatory, just say that you know the two of them have met up recently and that you feel it’s odd that it wasn’t on the calendar like his meet up with other friends are."

Cheaters are, by definition, liars. If you ask a cheater for the truth, they are going to LIE.

And their lies can be so astounding and flagrant that the betrayed spouse can start to disbelieve their own senses. I remember a few years ago, an OP came on a forum I was reading and said that she came home early one day; walked into her house; her H came bounding agitatedly towards her, shirtless and his hair dishevelled and saying he been napping; she saw movement in the bedroom behind him and started walking towards it; and her stark-naked neighbour came rushing past her, clutching her clothes to her chest, and vanished out of the front door.

And when OP overcame her speechless flabbergasted shock and started questioning, he said he was sick of her jealousy and the neighbour just came over to ask him to look at her toe, which she had jammed in a door.

And OP was so confused that she actually came to the forum to ask if she was unreasonable to doubt him!

Cheaters lie lie lie lie and lie. They've become the enemy, it is completely POINTLESS to ask them to tell the truth. They won't because that is partly WHY they cheat: they like lying and their lies.

I have zero problem with OP checking out what her H is doing. Cheating is abuse on many levels: mental, emotional, physical (STIs can be deadly), and above all financial. Marriage is a social contract: you need to protect yourself from partners who go bad and who can blow up your life.

And to the idealists on this thread saying, well, if you're checking him out, your relationship is dead anyway because you don't trust him: there is a LOT at stake, and NO ONE - including you - is going to willy-nilly blow up a decades-long relationship on the basis of an unconfirmed hunch.

This is dumb advice that does only hog-ties the victims of cheaters.

Edited

As I said in my post:
Yes, there is a high probability that, if there is anything but friendship with this woman that your H will lie.

I am not, and never will discount that people who cheat will lie and gaslight without a second thought. And they are willing to go to the extreme in order to be believed.

I can totally understand the need to have concrete proof of cheating, I’ve been on the receiving end and it’s an awful place to be.

But, this is a thirty year marriage that, from the information given by the OP, has otherwise been good.

I’m not saying she shouldn’t actively seek out proof, just that maybe a conversation with her H should factor into that somewhere.

Coldautumnmornings · 06/08/2026 06:57

I can't believe people are giving you such a hard time. On other threads, when a dp is suspected of cheating everyone says, 'get evidence ' . Him not being straight with you has forced you to try to find out by other means. A camera aimed at the front door isn't a huge invasion of privacy.

PleaseDontTreadOnTheDaisies · 06/08/2026 00:35

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 05/08/2026 22:15

All very good advice, except for:

"But just ask him. you don’t have to be accusatory, just say that you know the two of them have met up recently and that you feel it’s odd that it wasn’t on the calendar like his meet up with other friends are."

Cheaters are, by definition, liars. If you ask a cheater for the truth, they are going to LIE.

And their lies can be so astounding and flagrant that the betrayed spouse can start to disbelieve their own senses. I remember a few years ago, an OP came on a forum I was reading and said that she came home early one day; walked into her house; her H came bounding agitatedly towards her, shirtless and his hair dishevelled and saying he been napping; she saw movement in the bedroom behind him and started walking towards it; and her stark-naked neighbour came rushing past her, clutching her clothes to her chest, and vanished out of the front door.

And when OP overcame her speechless flabbergasted shock and started questioning, he said he was sick of her jealousy and the neighbour just came over to ask him to look at her toe, which she had jammed in a door.

And OP was so confused that she actually came to the forum to ask if she was unreasonable to doubt him!

Cheaters lie lie lie lie and lie. They've become the enemy, it is completely POINTLESS to ask them to tell the truth. They won't because that is partly WHY they cheat: they like lying and their lies.

I have zero problem with OP checking out what her H is doing. Cheating is abuse on many levels: mental, emotional, physical (STIs can be deadly), and above all financial. Marriage is a social contract: you need to protect yourself from partners who go bad and who can blow up your life.

And to the idealists on this thread saying, well, if you're checking him out, your relationship is dead anyway because you don't trust him: there is a LOT at stake, and NO ONE - including you - is going to willy-nilly blow up a decades-long relationship on the basis of an unconfirmed hunch.

This is dumb advice that does only hog-ties the victims of cheaters.

Edited

Absolutely this, and especially this:

Cheaters lie lie lie lie and lie. They've become the enemy, it is completely POINTLESS to ask them to tell the truth
I have zero problem with OP checking out what her H is doing. Cheating is abuse on many levels: mental, emotional, physical (STIs can be deadly), and above all financial. Marriage is a social contract: you need to protect yourself from partners who go bad and who can blow up your life.

Speaking from experience - it makes you so crazy you almost want to believe the outrageous lies just to keep your life together. That's why I said way up thread, sometimes you just NEED to know. It's for your own sanity.

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