Furious at ds work dismissal

Get him a job with you then

If an employers unhappy with the lateness they needed to tell him

You can’t actually be serious with this comment?

How much earlier would the early train have got him there for? Was he making the time back each day?

If a 19 year old needs to be told to get an earlier train to arrive at work on time, then I can see why they don't want him working for them.

Employers don’t need to tell employees to be on time.

That’s basic knowledge an adult should know.

Instead of being annoyed at an employer you should be taking the opportunity to speak to your DS about his utterly unrealistic expectations.

But why should they have to tell him? Surely it's obvious that you need to be on time for your job?

Perhaps they thought there was no earlier train available when they agreed the start time. I don't understand why they would do that otherwise. A 40 minute commute really isn't such a big deal that you would make special arrangements normally

But it's possible he has just relied too much on one person's word. It's a shame if so and if he has anything in writing it could be worth letting them know

He should have been on time from the start and got an earlier train. There's a massive different between being late once or twice because of disruption on the line and being late every single day because you can't be bothered to get the earlier train. They shouldn't have to tell him to get an earlier train - he's 19, he should know to do that himself - they've obviously decided to cut their losses early because even after a month he's not seen to correct his tardiness himself. One of life's lessons. And it's irrelevant what happens in other workplaces - that is what happens in his place, being on time is a condition of employment.

Why?

There’s zero point in speaking to ACAS. He has less than two years service. They’ve concluded he’s unreliable and you can agree or disagree with that, but that’s what they’ve decided.

Personally I’d be bollocking him for being later every day.

Personally I would have told my dc to take the earlier train as to never be late. Or I don't think I will have to when they are adults- they should be able to think for themselves. So far they are on time every day for school (secondary) .

He really shouldn't need to be told that it's not OK to turn up late every day. They aren't going to want an employee so lacking in common sense and initiative that they have to tell him to get an earlier train to be on time to work. At his age, he shouldn't need to be told these things.

Firstly, I’m sorry your DS has lost his job. I know it can be quite hard for his age group to get a job so I wish him all the best in getting a new one quickly.

A few minutes - is that like 2-3mins or 10-15? If I was an employer I think 2-3mins would be barely noticeable but anything more starts becoming an inconvenience for others, train or not. I don’t think it was great that they initially said it was OK and changed their minds after he’d started getting the earlier train, but it does make me wonder if someone more reliable was now available for the job and that’s why.

He should have got there on time, if he can't be bothered to look up train times and get there on time then I'm not surprised they aren't impressed. They might not have given him a verbal warning, but I doubt they were enthusiastically telling him not to bother showing up on time for this shift. His lack of ability to do the most basic time keeping is why he's sacked. Hopefully instead of excusing it and blaming others, he'll learn to show up.

Did they actually say yes you can start at x time instead of x or did no one say anything to him so he’s assumed they’re okay with it.

Sorry but I agree with others he should’ve got the earlier train.

Which is your workplace…

In DH’s workplace being late, by even a couple of minutes, three times in less than a year is a disciplinary meeting.

In DDs workplace she has a formal agreement, negotiated and in writing, that she starts and finishes 15 minutes earlier than her original contract time.

Your DS assumed from day 1 he could be late with no consequence. He’s an adult. He should have been getting the earlier train from day one and later negotiated a later start, if it was possible in his role.

Acas wont be able to help as he hasn't worked there for 2+ years and continually being late is unacceptable.
Also at19 he shouldn't need to be told to get an earlier train he should have known himself after being late the 1st time.
@OneGreyBiscuit do your son a favour and tell him to make sure hes on time for his next job and don't try and sugar coat this sacking as its entirely his own fault

This can’t be real

No point wasting time with ACAS, they can dismiss him because they don't like his trainers at this point.

It sucks op and theyve been a bit unfair saying it was ok, but perhaps it caused a bit of a stink and they decided on balance someone who couldnt be bothered to get there on time from the start was possibly going to be a bit of a pest going forward (ime new starters who start off employment with this attitude dont get better, not suggesting your lad is one of those but maybe theyve had this before and cba dealing with it).

Well now he knows his time keeping is his responsibility. It’s not for them to tell him.

Ah ok

Well it’s your fault you raised him to think this is okay, then.

It isn’t.

Are you sure he was telling you the truth?