Furious at ds work dismissal

I am probably going to show my age here - but in my day, the start time was 9:00. This was when you were sitting at your desk, logged in and ready to work. It was not the time you rolled up.

I am guessing that if he was a couple of minutes late every day, that translate to “he arrived at 9:05, and by the time he sat down and ready to work it was 9:20”.

I am also confused why an adult should have to be told to catch an earlier train. Surely, at working age, they should be thinking for themselves

One offs are fine. But until/unless you prove yourself in a job, nobody is going to let you take the piss. Probably annoying for his colleagues as well.

In any case that’s what probation is for - so that both parties can judge if the job and occupant are compatible.

You don’t know that they did say that though.

He is a grown man who shouldn’t need to be told to get an earlier train.

It seems to be a MN thing for some to infantilise their sons so they are incapable of being independent even when they reach adulthood. It’s a shame for the women who end up with them.!

Now THAT is patronising. It’s possible to not go to uni

I am astonished they even had to tell him to get an earlier train in order to be there on time. Did he not figure this out for himself?

Lesson learnt - hopefully he'll be more punctual in his next job and keep it longer.

He told you they said that.
But did they really?
clearly it wasn’t ok.

The issue is that we really don't know what was agreed. They possibly gave him a bit of leeway on his first day, but then didn't expect him to be late every single day.

I mentioned a similar case at my work where an older member of staff took the proverbial after I'd reassured her that she wasn't in trouble for being late.

After she kept doing it, I had to speak to her about her timekeeping.

Couldn't he work out for himself that he needed to get an earlier train if his usual one got him there late? They will have thought he didn't care enough to get in on time.

I am a few minutes to work every single day because of trains. I asked before I started if I can be and they said it’s fine so most days I’m 5-10 mins late and just work it back out of my lunch. I do it because the train before would get me there like 50 mins before. If they asked me to start being on time then I would have to, but would have been shocked had they sacked me during my probation for this after they’d initially agreed.
They were wrong to agree to it and then go back in their word, but didn’t do anything legally wrong. Guess he just has to cut his losses poor lad.

I don’t understand how he continued to get the train which made him late every single day. If that was me or my child and on their first day arrived at 9.04am I would be like fuck fuck fuck, I’m late to my new job, that looks awful, I hope the boss doesn’t bollock me. Tomorrow I must get the earlier train.

I wouldn’t continue to get a train that made me late, regardless of whether my new employers said it was fine. Imagine strolling in late every single day!

It’s really really basic stuff.

First day of my job I was told ….. if your early your on time, if your on time your late, if your late your fired!!!! Which has been passed down to my kids!! . And just because ‘everyone else does it’ doesn’t make it right!

To be fair, I think a lot of young people need to learn about how work works. That is not a Comment on a particular generation either, just that it is a big transition from education to employment. I remember when we left university one of my friends being spoken to about her timekeeping - she had assumed start times were flexible and it turned out they weren't.

It's also important to note the you get the least leeway in unskilled or entry level jobs, which are what you are likely to be doing as a 19 yo. I have a lot more flexibility at the end of my career, but what I offer is very different.

He was persistently late. The first time he was late he should have thought to get the earlier train

Is this a joke? If it’s not then I strongly suggest you spell out the facts of life to your DS. No one at work is going to Mummy him, he should be in the office 15 minutes before his start time every day. The fact that he doesn’t know this makes me question where he’s been all his life. The fact that you think he’s been treated unfairly makes me laugh my head off. Seriously?

He was late every day for a month. He should have known to get an earlier train if this was the case. Tough lesson unfortunately. And as he’s likely still in his probationary period they can let him go.

LOL. No need to call ACAS. I have some great advice that my ten year old could tell him.

Get. To. Work. On. Time.

Fuck me, does this need spelling out?

This is 100% what is wrong with society today.

You, as a parent, are furious at the employer for sacking your adult son for being consistently late?! Surely your anger should be at your son for losing his job because he failed to turn up on time? Add those 'few minutes each day' up over the space of a month and all of a sudden it seems pretty ridiculous that he's being paid for time he's not at work.

He chose to take a job that involved a train journey, being on time for employment is a bare minimum expectation, the employer shouldn't have had to even tell him to get an earlier train!!! You as a parent have surely taught him the importance about being on time for school etc so what's changed now he's employed?!?

No she works at a supermarket. He had an office job in "finance".

He should have got an earlier train before having to be told. What a numpty

Do you work at the same place as your son?

He’s 19 … why does he need his employer to tell him to get an earlier train so he is not late for work every day?

He needs to be on time, doesn’t matter where he lives. Surely that’s obvious?

I travel by public transport and get the bus 3 times earlier than the one I need so I'm never late. Why on earth did he think being late every day was acceptable and why on earth didn't you boot his butt on an earlier train.

Jesus wept. This is why PP said you are not doing your son any favours and being argumentative.

sorry your DS lost his job. He needs to chalk it up to experience and be exemplary next time, rather than consistently a few minutes late. These things do matter, even if you/he don’t think that they do.

He should have been on the train that got him to work on time from the very first day. He shouldn’t have needed telling.