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AIBU to expect my husband to learn basic household habits?

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edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 11:08

Why are some men seemingly incapable of learning basic household habits?

Before you start saying "weaponised incompetence", I'm honestly not sure that's what this is... but I'm running out of other explanations. Am I being unreasonable/having unrealistic expectations?

My DH is a lovely man. Intelligent, successful at work, learns new systems and processes all the time, manages people, solves problems... yet somehow cannot consistently manage things like:

  • putting used tissues straight in the bin instead of leaving them by the sink
  • putting socks in the washing basket rather than wherever they happen to come off
  • putting things back in the cupboard after using them
  • putting his shoes in the shoe rack
  • the list goes on….

I know some of it is probably down to his upbringing. His mum worked all the time and his dad was very hands-off, so he never really learned the basics of running a home. But like… at what point does that stop being an excuse?

I've asked nicely, explained why it bothers me, reminded him over and over again, lost my temper, left things where they are.……. nothing sticks!!!! can't imagine him repeatedly ignoring basic instructions from his boss or colleagues like this

Do some men just not see this stuff? Is it because they know someone else (me) will eventually sort it out?

Has anyone actually found a way to change this awful dynamic? Should I just accept that I’ll be reminding a grown man where the washing basket is for the rest of our lives? I’m exhausted!!!!

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Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 31/07/2026 13:07

I have ADHD but I also have adult children who are prone to coming by if they are passing. So I do my very best to make sure my house isn't full of dirty washing/unwashed plates/kitchen tidy and loose paperwork/mail is tidied away. It's a great incentive, and being ADHD doesn't mean that stuff HAS to be left all over the place.

OneKookyCoralRaven · 31/07/2026 13:06

They're not 'man things'. They're people things. Behaviours exhibited by both sexes.

But IME women, including me are more bothered by them and complain about them more then men do.

So then it becomes 'men do this' rather than 'people do this'.

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 13:03

FrauPaige · 31/07/2026 12:12

Mmm. Let's see. So, she meets, dates, and moves in with a guy that doesn't have basic household manners which both exhausts and infuriates her. She picks up after him for that cohabitation period, and then marries him, only later asking why he can't pick up after himself.

May it not have been a wiser cause of action to demand that her cohabitating boyfriend 'make a bit of effort and show a bit of respect' - as you put it - before marrying the fellow?

This is how these husbands are made.

Um no… my question isn’t why can’t he pick up after himself. I have answered that question, it was clear after meeting his parents and learning about his childhood.

I’m asking why he can’t learn, when he is able to learn other things at work.

Someone mentioned consequences in work settings tied to performance and I think that’s probably the answer.

I’m also looking for information about strategies and tips from MNetters that can relate to this problem and who have been able to see a big change after using those strategies.

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Marroon · 31/07/2026 13:00

Why are some men seemingly incapable of learning basic household habits?

They really aren’t, yours just doesn’t respect you. It’s honestly that simple. Most people in these relationships realise this at some point.

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 12:59

Aposterhasnoname · 31/07/2026 12:12

My DH used to leave the kitchen cupboard doors open, Drove me mad, I asked, begged, cajoled, shouted, cried, everything, but for some reason, he just kept doing it. I honestly think he didn't realise he was doing it, he just didn't have close kitchen cupboard doors programmed into his routine.

Anyway, one day I stopped closing them after him, it took less than a week before he walked into one and knocked himself senseless. He closes them now.

😂😂😂

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Tinybirdie · 31/07/2026 12:58

MurkyMo · 31/07/2026 11:12

I know! It's like living with a teenager rather than a grown man you're supposed to be in equal partnership with. Mine has been known to use a plate for a sandwich or something and then just knock the crumbs off before putting it back in the cupboard. I managed to stop that carry on. But I think a lot of them just don't see it. It's just not that important to them.

What's wrong with doing that? I do it all the time for plates with a few crumbs

Myskyscolour · 31/07/2026 12:56

And I disagree with PP: there is no valid reason to delay putting a dirty tissue in the bin or dirty laundry in the basket.
Say you are sitting down, you blow your nose, next time you get up you just take it directly to the bin.
Cupboard door: you take something and close the door, why leave it open and then come back to it later to close it?? (Except when actively cooking and expecting to need several things from the same cupboard)

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 12:56

SummerDive · 31/07/2026 12:06

I know you said he can accept extremely high levels of untidiness. But does he really?
He doesn’t mind tge messyes
But he also doesn’t mind having no clean socks? No clean glasses or cups?

Id be tempted to tidy up as you normally but put socks in a basket (not the laundry basket), cups in a bassin (not to be ready to be washed)

Because let’s be honest, it’s not just the mess. You’re also ensuring he has clean clothes to wear too. Clean glasses and plates etc….

And I am sure the doesn’t do the washing, deal with the dishwasher/washing up etc either? Or run the hoover?

He does do dishes but only after it gets extremely cluttered/no space in the kitchen to leave anything else/we’ve run out of everything - but then doesn’t empty the dishwasher afterwards.

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Kimmers4334 · 31/07/2026 12:56

People do get divorced over stuff like this. Resentment builds when you have to repeatedly ask someone to do basic things and then tidy up after them, because if they really cared they would just pick up the socks or put away the glass. I think if you are a functioning person, fairly nice, and can do things like hold down a job, you can make the effort to remember to tidy up after yourself.
I’ve had past relationships with men like this and it’s worried me because if he can’t remember to do basic things, then would he remember to do things like check a baby’s play area for choking hazards or make sure their uniform is clean for school or feed a pet and clean their litter tray/cage/poop. If the answer is no then he’s not a partner, and if the answer is yes then he could choose to take his own housework off my plate, but he just doesn’t care enough to.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/she-divorced-me-i-left-dishes-by-the-sink_b_9055288/amp

She Divorced Me Because I Left Dishes By The Sink

It wasn’t a big deal to me when I was married. But it was a big deal to her.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/she-divorced-me-i-left-dishes-by-the-sink_b_9055288/amp

TheGreatDownandOut · 31/07/2026 12:54

It stems from a deeply ingrained sense of entitlement and lack of respect

Myskyscolour · 31/07/2026 12:53

Do what I did with my 12yo DS: stop doing it for him and call him every single time « DH, I think you forgot your dirty socks on the floor » (with the expectation that he interrupts what he is doing to come sort it out straightaway).
No angry tone, more like « oops you forgot again ».
If that doesn’t work, start calling him when he is in the middle of something he enjoys. After a few times calling DS during his screen time he miraculously started remembering to put his clothes in the basket and not on the floor in the bathroom…

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 12:51

Sherararara · 31/07/2026 11:56

Most of these depend on whether he doesn’t do it at all or just does it later. You don’t HAVE to put your tissues in the bin right away or your socks in the hamper right away, or even shut the cupboard door right away. I’ll put the tissues in the bin next time I get up or take the socks with me next time I go upstairs. I’ll even leave the cupboard door open and close it when I leave the kitchen. None of these things harm anyone at the end of the day. A lot of women have an expectation these things must be done RIGHT NOW and to them I would say chill out.
Now if he’s leaving these things and expecting someone else to pick up after him then fair enough, that’s a different story altogether.

Edited

By later do you mean later that day or later in the week?

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DriveMeCrazy1974 · 31/07/2026 12:51

It's taken me 32 years to get my husband to manage basic household habits!As I've often said to him, just because I was born with a vagina, it doesn't mean that I automatically knew how to do them and it's not fair that only women are expected (by some men) to do these tasks.
Finally though, I've got somebody who does more than his fair share and it's wonderful. For my part, I've learnt to ignore that he doesn't always do things the way I do them, that's just life and if you want somebody to do their fair share, there has to be some give and take on both sides.

Lomonald · 31/07/2026 12:50

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 11:17

100% like living with a teenager! He gets mildly annoyed when I put dirty cups/glasses that he was “planning on using again later” in the dishwasher…

Why don't you just leave them? If he was planning to re use later in the day just leave it out?

sugarapplelane · 31/07/2026 12:50

theneighbourhadaladder · 31/07/2026 11:25

How was he when he was alone?

I can see some friends who would drive me utterly insane, not just men frankly. I don't care in their house, I am a guest, but if they were living in MINE, I would explode: the pile of clothes waiting to be folded and put away, the pile of post and random paper just doing nothing, drying rack and a full one next to the sink and so on. Coats on the stairs, things and things on surfaces, stuff everywhere.
They're happy in their own home, great.
We would not make a happy couple 😂

I think there need to be a compromise when you live with someone, and be a bit respectful of both sides, but you also need to be realistic.

MY own basic is what others call "frantically running around to make the house marginally visitor-ready". You can't really expect either side to change personality.

Do you know my SIL? Her house is like this. It’s a pit!

MyMilchick · 31/07/2026 12:50

hydriotaphia · 31/07/2026 11:13

But does he expect you to clear it up or is he happy with things being a bit untidy? I am quite untidy myself and would not enjoy being shouted at for this. There has to be a mutual agreement about household standards.

I'm thankful that mine and my husband's "tidy levels" are pretty similar, not absolute pigs but not real neat freaks either 😂

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 12:49

gannett · 31/07/2026 11:42

I have two glasses and three mugs on various surfaces in my home office. They belong exactly where I put them. I also have a pile of clothes on the floor. I'll move them to the laundry basket, and take the mugs downstairs, in the fullness of time, at a moment convenient for me. They're not my number one priority.

Fussing over everything having to be put away immediately goes over untidy people's heads because fundamentally we disagree that it actually matters.

So what is it you do instead?

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CitizenofMoronia · 31/07/2026 12:48

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 12:29

He might be actually. Is that worth looking into for an adult? How would they test that at this stage, since he “is able to read fine” given career progression?

"How would they test that at this stage, since he “is able to read fine” given career progression?"

When I was in juniors, they told my mum not to teach me to read as they an a new method for reading that had been brought it, she did as they asked untill they put me in a remedial group for reading, she then got out a MASSIVE book, the home lawyer and proceded to teach me to read, I dont remember being in the remedial group for more than a week.. I could read,

On to secondary school, my spelling and handwriting is atrocious, my reading age being 2-3 years above the rest of the class. One parent evening my english teacher told my mom that there was a new thing called word blindness that had been discovered and she thinks I may have it, my mum asked what could be done about it, teacher answered nothing theres no money for it, I belive "word blindness" went on to be dyslexia, - being good at reading, doesnt rule out being dyslexic - im also messy, no matter how hard I try i dont SEE it.

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 12:47

theneighbourhadaladder · 31/07/2026 11:34

but the point is, why should they care?

Don't get me wrong, I do. But a lot of people, men and women, do not care about being tidy. Is there really a valid reason why they should?

Now if he expects someone to do his laundry for him and collect his crap from the floor, he's an arse. He could also make an effort for his wife.

But who decides really who is right who is wrong?
I am sure some people find my house "too tidy" because I like clean empty spaces.

If I let things slip it’s only a matter of time before we end up in hoarder house territory

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malefields · 31/07/2026 12:46

He’s just lazy and can’t be bothered.

My mother was a workaholic who’d never step foot at home if she could and we didn’t turn out like that. My partner has ADHD and had a sorry excuse of a mother and also sorted his habits out once he grew up and realised it wasn’t okay.

SapphireSeptember · 31/07/2026 12:45

My two year old DS drops his dirty clothes over the stair gate I have between the living room and kitchen, I'd expect a grown man to put his socks in the washing basket! (My washing basket is in the kitchen.)

BauhausOfEliott · 31/07/2026 12:42

Pretty sure my DP thinks all this stuff about me, tbh. I’m a woman. I don’t really notice this sort of thing until it becomes a big deal.

edvardsghost · 31/07/2026 12:41

WinterBlues26 · 31/07/2026 11:33

I second this. Either he grows up and behaves like a responsible adult or you split. The frustration and resentment will build up anyway so it's just a matter of when, not if.

This is very dramatic. I’ll pass on this, thanks though!

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PrincessofWills · 31/07/2026 12:41

Stop doing it for him . . . at the moment there are no consequences.

PinkCatCushion · 31/07/2026 12:40

Thelnebriati · 31/07/2026 12:25

Tell him 'you treating me like your mother is going to kill our marriage' and see if he can be arsed after that.

My teenage children help out with chores and keep things tidy, they clean their own rooms and communal ones.
As their mother I have brought them up from an early age to help around the house - I see my role as a mother to teach them how to keep house, not to do everything for them.
Treating someone ‘like your mother’ means you are going to do things to help them, not expect them to tidy up after you!