Bums hanging out of the bottom of teeny tiny shorts

That's what I don't understand about people wearing very revealing clothing. Apart from looking unstylish and inelegant, you can't control who's looking at you or how they'll act. Fabulous if some lovely young Adonis starts talking to you and invites you out for dinner, but how do the sexy dressers cope with the leering and the sexual remarks and the vague sense of threat from gross pervs?

Not really, if they want to wear revealing stuff then that’s up to them.

If by ‘cheap’ you mean ‘tarty’ then that’s on the men to control themselves and stop objectifying women. Perhaps parents could look at teaching boys how to avoid raping and harassing girls rather than teaching the girls that they are asking for trouble with the way they dress.

I mean, Pride festivals tend to be pretty alternative. For that reason I don't think I'd take a kid to one. They're just not family-friendly.

I think very revealing clothes are tacky, no matter what the actual garment. When I was young I had an incredible ballet-dancer's body but I never dressed in such tiny clothes. I was always aware that it looked cheap and desperate. I didn't dress like a nun, but I certainly didn't reveal my bum, breasts, and midriff.

If people want to look cheap, that's up to them. They have no style, imo.

I do think that thong bikinis and very tiny string bikinis should be banned at public pools. It's a matter of public decency when it comes to fully naked bums in thong bottoms. And some of those string bikinis are just a few cm away from full nudity.

The fact that people are showing off their bum cheeks comes as no surprise to me, given the ever-decreasing clothing sizes of the last 15-20 years.

I think it's really sad that women's bodies seem to be more sexualised and objectified than ever before, and clothing fashions are smaller than ever. It's become the norm for breasts to be at least half-out, plus midriff out, plus short and/or tight bottoms, plus stripper heels. I came of age in the early Nineties, which was a much more covered-up decade, but I think we are in an anti-feminist era and all the tiny clothing trends reflect that. Plus social media and filters that make people look perfect with big boobs and flawless skin all over etc. I think it's a crying shame for young women today.

It is indeed disturbing that young women have to take special steps to stop the pervs drooling over them. Imagine if we held men responsible for their actions instead of expecting women and girls to have to change their behaviour.

I stand corrected but note how recent that was.

I totally agree. This was a rock festival and there was definitely no need for it to be on display to everyone.

In all likelihood, yes. Or, it will have gone the other way, and they'll be complaining about everyone dressing like their great grandmothers (which is, by the way, something that happened when prairie style dresses were all the rage).

What women are wearing shows no sign of ceasing to be a conversation topic. It seems women no matter what attitudes may have changed on the surface, the female appearance is public property to be commented upon, an indicator of moral values and the state of the nation. However much we dress up the modern version with comments about the 'male gaze', it's still fundamentally the same old story. What women wear is still given far too much importance.

We get those walking down the high street for "Pride" along with men showing off a load of other kinks to the children bought out to watch by their parents (leather animal ears and snouts with studs, etc). That worries me more than girls wearing what is in the shops.

Sorry, can I just add a point?

It actually is legal here for women to be publicly topless. It might still be more likely to be judged but it is legal.

https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/616538

Agree 100% with you OP.

I was at a festival recently and there was one man with the whole seat/bum area cut out of his trousers exposing his entire arse!

But for the current generation, there isnt much the generations before havent already done (especially GenX of which I count myself a proud member!) so they either have to dial it right back in a Saffy kind of way or go even more extreme.

• I do think this is part of it.

I’m just jealous they have the figure for it! But seriously a local girls secondary school has obviously agreed (quite rightly) that black shorts should be part of the school uniform. All good, apart from the fact the girls all wore these bum shorts. Disturbing. All under 16.

I don't have any issue with shorts or miniskirts, I like miniskirts myself.

I agree about the double standard. I think bum-showing shorts are gross and I don't want to see anyone topless unless at the beach but it's very wrong for only women to be criticised for stuff like that & not men.

Nudists, most of whom are male, are allowed to present in public naked without batting an eye, as long as their "intent" isn't to distress and alarm. Doesn't matter how anyone else perceives it.

The Naked Rambler wasn't allowed to go naked in public, even though there doesn't appear to be any evidence of intent to cause distress or alarm.

They have been. A group cycle through quite a few cities and towns every year. They are wherever they want to be. It is all about intent.

Are these males naked on the tube?

Nudists, most of whom are male, are allowed to present in public naked without batting an eye, as long as their "intent" isn't to distress and alarm. Doesn't matter how anyone else perceives it. So yes, despite men actually going naked in public places, in groups, in rural areas, wherever they like, we still prefer to wang on about fashion on young girls and the moral turpitude it must spell for this generation.

So…my DDs will be complaining that their DDs want to wear shorts and with their labia hanging out in 30 years’ time?

They clearly don’t think it looks terrible.

If they think what you wear is terrible would you change your outfit to suit their tastes?

Yep. And I say this as someone who has always gravitated towards the long skirts/baggy shirts and trousers style. My 'shorts' are all long, and my swimming costumes have more in common with burkinis than thong bikinis, but that's my choice, my style that I like.

@ObelixtheGaul It's just sad that it's women policing other women's clothing.

I genuinely think if they could some people would be happy to dole out violent punishments according to their judgments - just like in Afghanistan and Iran.

I may not like what some people wear - but I will absolutely defend their right to wear it - as long as they have the decency to do the same.

My 67 year old aunt went to Brazil and wound up at a carnival /festival.
Shes a very church going/choir singing/university challenge/national trust/museum volunteer gal. So i was surprised. She said she coulsnt beleive it and had to film the "incredible and sexy black woman dancing in a carnival costume" her words were that there was something so mesmerising about the way the woman was shaking her hips in a particular rhythm with a big bum and a perfect white thong in between 2 glorious buttocks. I was like....... righttttt 😲 🫨 🫢 😮 😲

Some of you should never EVER go to Brazil