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AIBU to object to neighbour using my garden as their main access?

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Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 18:51

Fully expecting to be told this is my own fault for not looking into it properly but need a vent all the same!

A year ago I moved into an end of terrace house. There is the usual easement arrangement with the adjoining neighbour that they can get access to their back garden via my back garden. I know that is pretty standard and I was obviously aware of it when I purchased. Since moving in however it's become clear that they use it as their primary entrance. They never use their front door. They have a sign on the front door telling post man/ couriers etc to go round the back. Again, wouldn't necessarily be a big issue except that there seems to CONSTANTLY be someone walking through! It's an older lady living there with her grandson. He is late teens/ early 20s maybe and in and out like a yo-yo, no exaggeration. Ditto her boyfriend, her dog walker, her cleaner, her food shop, couriers (she gets at least two packages a day!) .... The latter particularly pisses me off because they often don't close my gate behind them. I have an OAP dog and 4 children, the youngest of whom is 4. It'd take literal seconds to slip out of the garden without anyone noticing 😠 And frankly, now that its summer time it just feels quite intrusive. Strangers walking in and out while my children are playing. I stupidly feel awkward sitting outside to read a book even though it's my fucking garden!

Is it even a legal thing to say that they are over using their access?!

Should also add that I would probably mind all this less except that at the end of last year the handle of my gate broke. It was the week before Christmas and I didn't have time or money to fix it and it wasn't particularly a priority for me, but I told the neighbour I would sort it after Christmas, quite reasonably I thought. (I have a side door so actually rarely use the gate). Neighbour told me I had to fix it because it is "YOUR gate" and "a public right of way" (it isn't 🤣).Then proceeded to tell all the other neighbours that I was "refusing" to fix it because I didn't use it and that she "couldn't even get her food delivered" and would "rather die than use the front door"... After a week of hassle and harassment I ended up getting a friend's husband to fix it for free and neighbour has since apologised but... I don't know, it just left a sour taste.

Is there anything I can do? Do I just have to wait for her to move/die?? 🙈

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IckyIck · 04/07/2026 19:40

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 18:50

You don't t know the rights of easement in UK very well. If the easement is blocked the people trying to use it can take ANY alternate route through your property

That almost certainly isn't true. You can't block it.

thejennyb · 04/07/2026 19:18

For me, the issue is the safety of your children (& dogs?). If she’s badmouthing you to your neighbours, cd you point out to them that using the easement as the usual access to her house allows strangers to walk onto your property at any time, thus impinging on your security. How would they feel if one of your children was frightened, or a dog escape and be hurt?

Davidpowell · 04/07/2026 18:54

Frankly I’d have some fun with them. A piece of paper can say what it wants but when a way is blocked it makes not a lot of difference.

i would start with a low level conversation that I’m a bit worried after reading of garden thefts especially with my house being on the end. I’m arranging for a beefy lock to be fitted to the gate. I’ll obviously unlock it so you can come and go but you might want to find your front door key in case I am out..

then I’d do just that and keep it locked until she asks to come and go.. see how many times she missed parcels etc and gives up!

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 18:50

You don't t know the rights of easement in UK very well. If the easement is blocked the people trying to use it can take ANY alternate route through your property

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 18:47

Easements have their own laws ...as my lawyer said ' you can go thru singing and dancing at midnight if you wish, you have 24/7 easement rights

Rileysowner · 04/07/2026 18:46

As stated by another user - check your deeds/easement. We bought an end terrace (no.17) where there had been a right of access across for our Neighbour (at no19) on the right A previous occupier of our house had paid a barrister to close this off though - so it right of access for no 19 no longer existed when we bought the property. No 19 was owned by a housing association and had tenants. No 21 &23 (the other end terrace in thus row of 4) were all privately owned. Quite frankly the tenants at no 19 were a nightmare - rubbish in garden, always boasting of the additional works that housing association were doing for them and noisy. They managed to annoy the other end terrace (no 23) so much there was a dispute - no 23 checked his deeds and right of access is “for owners of the property only” ie not tenants but the housing association only!!! As this was a legal document no 19 actually had no right across the back gardens of no 21 & 23 - to the extent they were forced to put their bins out front! Do check the legalities - as this would effectively mean no visitors, tradespeople or guests or even lost can be delivered to your neighbours back door as these individuals have no right of way across your garden - not being “owners of the property”…..

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 18:44

This poster has it all wrong,the laws for this are ancient. Suggest you get in touch with Neighbours from Hell online free lawyers taking you step by step through your dispute.
I had exactly the same and won because they told me exactly what to do. I was on the other side, however....my neighbours wanted to stop me using back entrance

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 18:39

If you live in the country it's typical to have this sort of back entrance. It causes so much trouble l would never have one again. You can't move them to the end of garden without a special dispensation, you can't buy them out, and no one EVER gets permission to do anything with them. Anyone is allowed on them as long as they have ' business' with the house holder.
You are onto losing

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/07/2026 07:12

If op hasn’t got £14 then she hasn’t got it - tho I would be happy to contribute

AffableApple · 04/07/2026 00:19

Honestly, most are really sympathetic on here. It's just frustrating that you won't save yourself a lot of time and money by buying the deeds yourself, taking time to absorb them, including whether or not you need to take any action against your conveyancer, before seeking legal advice. Huge sympathies and lots of good wishes.

2O26 · 03/07/2026 19:46

Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 13:26

That's a bit patronising isn't it? I don't want anyone to say anything 🤷🏼‍♀️ I mostly wanted to vent, and have now done so! I've read all the advice and taken it. Hence waiting for the deeds so I can see exactly what they say and I will reassess the situation then. I can't really stop other people posting and arguing amongst themselves in the meantime... There's really no need for you to wait around if it's inconveniencing you in some way!

OP, many people have taken the time to offer supportive and helpful advice. Try to stay open to their feedback —everyone is hoping for a good outcome.

PrettyPickle · 03/07/2026 19:23

Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 13:26

That's a bit patronising isn't it? I don't want anyone to say anything 🤷🏼‍♀️ I mostly wanted to vent, and have now done so! I've read all the advice and taken it. Hence waiting for the deeds so I can see exactly what they say and I will reassess the situation then. I can't really stop other people posting and arguing amongst themselves in the meantime... There's really no need for you to wait around if it's inconveniencing you in some way!

You don't come onto places like this to just vent, you wanted to discuss it, and that's fine. You want validation and many of us are telling you have to check it and we are struggling with your rationale. I sympathise, I really would not like your situation either and I really don't get why you don't want to get a quick handle on this by using the land registry when its clearly and understandably causing you great stress and minimising the enjoyment of your new home.

OP, your solicitor will charge you for the land registry search, its classed as a disbursement and they will charge you for the advice. And not sure if you have a mortgage, but if you do, any paper deeds are normally with the mortgage company and they usually (not always) charge a fee for checking them for you.

Isn't is cheaper and quicker to just do the land registry search on line,(which is what your solicitor would do) that may well tell you everything you need to know. If it shows the solicitor has cocked up and not drawn your attention to the issues, then they will need to cover costs to correct it. But maybe they drew your attention to it during conveyancing and you did not realise the implications.

Also, and apologies if I have missed this response, but much earlier you stated the previous owner had tried to get the neighbours to move their easement route and they declined. How do you know this? Did the seller tell you this before you signed on the dotted line, did they tell you after (because they should have declared the dispute on the conveyancing documents or has a third party told you? It may make a difference to your situation if it was not disclosed.

Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 15:48

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That's amazingly helpful, thanks so much

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Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 13:26

IckyIck · 03/07/2026 12:48

Same here.

OP could find out herself from the deeds for £7 (+£7).
It's a lot of money if you haven't got it but if the conveyancer needs to get it for you (the NDN'S deeds) it will be a lot more.

She could try the Garden Law Forum (Garden Law Discussion - Index page.

@Deepblueokay , I don't think you realise it but posters like @FudgeFudy and myself* are here because WE WANT TO HELP* and we've been through something with some similarity, but you don't seem to want to listen.

You seem to want us to say the NDN is in the wrong. Without seeing the wording in the deeds and the green outline on the plan, we can't tell you that.
We don't think she is.

** apologies to those I've missed like the surveyor.

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That's a bit patronising isn't it? I don't want anyone to say anything 🤷🏼‍♀️ I mostly wanted to vent, and have now done so! I've read all the advice and taken it. Hence waiting for the deeds so I can see exactly what they say and I will reassess the situation then. I can't really stop other people posting and arguing amongst themselves in the meantime... There's really no need for you to wait around if it's inconveniencing you in some way!

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IckyIck · 03/07/2026 12:57

Formatting went wonky because of ** that was meant to reference the footnote.

IckyIck · 03/07/2026 12:48

FudgeFudy · 03/07/2026 10:55

I'd give up if I were you. I've accepted that I may as well mumble my advice, which is based on a reasonable working knowledge of land law, into a bin. What I don't get is why the OP is wasting time contacting her conveyancer about this when they possibly didn't do a brilliant job in the first place. For £7 (OK £14 if she gets the neighbour's deeds too), she can see what the situation is immediately. Christ I'd pay it myself to move this thread along.

Same here.

OP could find out herself from the deeds for £7 (+£7).
It's a lot of money if you haven't got it but if the conveyancer needs to get it for you (the NDN'S deeds) it will be a lot more.

She could try the Garden Law Forum (Garden Law Discussion - Index page.

@Deepblueokay , I don't think you realise it but posters like @FudgeFudy and myself* are here because WE WANT TO HELP* and we've been through something with some similarity, but you don't seem to want to listen.

You seem to want us to say the NDN is in the wrong. Without seeing the wording in the deeds and the green outline on the plan, we can't tell you that.
We don't think she is.

** apologies to those I've missed like the surveyor.

IckyIck · 03/07/2026 12:39

Laurmolonlabe · 03/07/2026 10:28

I think the relevant point here is that the door is not straight onto the street and there is no reason why it couldn't be used for deliveries- you seem to think an easement makes it a public right of way, it doesn't, it's specifically for the neighbour, not anyone the neighbour fancies letting use it.

@Laurmolonlabe
you seem to think an easement makes it a public right of way, it doesn't,
Correct
it's specifically for the neighbour, not anyone the neighbour fancies letting use it.
Not correct.

**Assuming the wording on OP's deeds are the same as mine.

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/07/2026 12:36

Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 11:09

What a strange thing to say, noone is forcing you to keep posting here 🤔

Apologies if you feel your time is being "wasted". I don't really want to waste £14 on something I can get for free 🤷🏼‍♀️ That's a lot of money to me.

How do you get it free ? Are you wishing to get it from your solicitor ?

godmum56 · 03/07/2026 11:50

Laurmolonlabe · 03/07/2026 10:28

I think the relevant point here is that the door is not straight onto the street and there is no reason why it couldn't be used for deliveries- you seem to think an easement makes it a public right of way, it doesn't, it's specifically for the neighbour, not anyone the neighbour fancies letting use it.

easements can be for anyone who the beneficiary of the easement allows.

BobbysDazzler · 03/07/2026 11:48

Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 07:09

It doesn't open into the street. She has a front garden.

Can I ask does she use her front door to access her front garden?

Asking as wondered if she'd maybe blocked it off inside somehow? 🤷

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/07/2026 11:44

FudgeFudy · 03/07/2026 10:55

I'd give up if I were you. I've accepted that I may as well mumble my advice, which is based on a reasonable working knowledge of land law, into a bin. What I don't get is why the OP is wasting time contacting her conveyancer about this when they possibly didn't do a brilliant job in the first place. For £7 (OK £14 if she gets the neighbour's deeds too), she can see what the situation is immediately. Christ I'd pay it myself to move this thread along.

I hope / think @Deepblueokay is waiting for the deeds

i will go halves with you for the fee 😂

Whyherewego · 03/07/2026 11:24

Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 11:09

What a strange thing to say, noone is forcing you to keep posting here 🤔

Apologies if you feel your time is being "wasted". I don't really want to waste £14 on something I can get for free 🤷🏼‍♀️ That's a lot of money to me.

You will unlikely get the details of the neighbour's deeds for free tbh.

Deepblueokay · 03/07/2026 11:09

FudgeFudy · 03/07/2026 10:55

I'd give up if I were you. I've accepted that I may as well mumble my advice, which is based on a reasonable working knowledge of land law, into a bin. What I don't get is why the OP is wasting time contacting her conveyancer about this when they possibly didn't do a brilliant job in the first place. For £7 (OK £14 if she gets the neighbour's deeds too), she can see what the situation is immediately. Christ I'd pay it myself to move this thread along.

What a strange thing to say, noone is forcing you to keep posting here 🤔

Apologies if you feel your time is being "wasted". I don't really want to waste £14 on something I can get for free 🤷🏼‍♀️ That's a lot of money to me.

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FudgeFudy · 03/07/2026 10:55

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 03/07/2026 10:42

I don't 'think' anything. An easement is for the property. Unless it has restrictions on it it can be used by anyone to access the property. So deliveries etc. It doesn't mean it's a public right of way, but anyone who needs to go to the property can use it, as long as they don't loiter on it or block it. I think it's ridiculous, it's not fair, but it's the law. The fact that it doesn't open into the street is irrelevant.

Look on the Garden Law forum. It's full of tales of woe (one is mine)

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I'd give up if I were you. I've accepted that I may as well mumble my advice, which is based on a reasonable working knowledge of land law, into a bin. What I don't get is why the OP is wasting time contacting her conveyancer about this when they possibly didn't do a brilliant job in the first place. For £7 (OK £14 if she gets the neighbour's deeds too), she can see what the situation is immediately. Christ I'd pay it myself to move this thread along.

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