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AIBU to object to neighbour using my garden as their main access?

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Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 18:51

Fully expecting to be told this is my own fault for not looking into it properly but need a vent all the same!

A year ago I moved into an end of terrace house. There is the usual easement arrangement with the adjoining neighbour that they can get access to their back garden via my back garden. I know that is pretty standard and I was obviously aware of it when I purchased. Since moving in however it's become clear that they use it as their primary entrance. They never use their front door. They have a sign on the front door telling post man/ couriers etc to go round the back. Again, wouldn't necessarily be a big issue except that there seems to CONSTANTLY be someone walking through! It's an older lady living there with her grandson. He is late teens/ early 20s maybe and in and out like a yo-yo, no exaggeration. Ditto her boyfriend, her dog walker, her cleaner, her food shop, couriers (she gets at least two packages a day!) .... The latter particularly pisses me off because they often don't close my gate behind them. I have an OAP dog and 4 children, the youngest of whom is 4. It'd take literal seconds to slip out of the garden without anyone noticing 😠 And frankly, now that its summer time it just feels quite intrusive. Strangers walking in and out while my children are playing. I stupidly feel awkward sitting outside to read a book even though it's my fucking garden!

Is it even a legal thing to say that they are over using their access?!

Should also add that I would probably mind all this less except that at the end of last year the handle of my gate broke. It was the week before Christmas and I didn't have time or money to fix it and it wasn't particularly a priority for me, but I told the neighbour I would sort it after Christmas, quite reasonably I thought. (I have a side door so actually rarely use the gate). Neighbour told me I had to fix it because it is "YOUR gate" and "a public right of way" (it isn't 🤣).Then proceeded to tell all the other neighbours that I was "refusing" to fix it because I didn't use it and that she "couldn't even get her food delivered" and would "rather die than use the front door"... After a week of hassle and harassment I ended up getting a friend's husband to fix it for free and neighbour has since apologised but... I don't know, it just left a sour taste.

Is there anything I can do? Do I just have to wait for her to move/die?? 🙈

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HB1625 · 05/07/2026 20:28

Deepblueokay · 05/07/2026 20:16

Not asking for sympathy thanks

Hopefully you'll hear something back from the conveyancers tomorrow, or soon, and then take it from there.

Your neighbour would drive me insane! She sounds like a bully and a pisstaker - let's say you find out that she is abusing the easement and its only meant to be for taking the bins out or something like that. It's going to take strength to stand up to her as she seems used to getting her own way. Have you thought how you might handle it?

I don't think you've mentioned it, but was there any discussion with the estate agent/solicitor/conveyancer about the easement? Were you ever made aware of it?

KnewYearKnewMe · 05/07/2026 20:26

jeez - that sounds awful, OP.
completely understand how you wouldn’t expect it to be used so much as it is.

your neighbour sounds awful 😡

Portmore · 05/07/2026 20:20

Heavy awkward padlock & give the neighbour a key (one key)

Deepblueokay · 05/07/2026 20:18

Aw @IckyIck Happy to dish it out but don't like it in return! Classic

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Deepblueokay · 05/07/2026 20:16

Grendel7 · 05/07/2026 19:57

Sorry but you bought this knowing the access issues. No sympathy

Not asking for sympathy thanks

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BlackRowan · 05/07/2026 19:58

Davidpowell · 05/07/2026 15:23

Lots of big words thrown around, including the dreaded N word. The surveyor maybe should have reported to the lender that there are signs of a third party having access over the garden. I say maybe as it’s likely to be value significant.

the surveyors will not have been provided with the title. The solicitor probably should have pointed out the implications of the easement and queried its usage with the vendor.

the easiest solution here is simply to make the use of her garden less convenient to the neighbour.

Should the neighbour decide to go legal they will get plenty of warning before it escalates..

Sorry I meant solicitors of course not surveyors 😹😱

Grendel7 · 05/07/2026 19:57

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 18:51

Fully expecting to be told this is my own fault for not looking into it properly but need a vent all the same!

A year ago I moved into an end of terrace house. There is the usual easement arrangement with the adjoining neighbour that they can get access to their back garden via my back garden. I know that is pretty standard and I was obviously aware of it when I purchased. Since moving in however it's become clear that they use it as their primary entrance. They never use their front door. They have a sign on the front door telling post man/ couriers etc to go round the back. Again, wouldn't necessarily be a big issue except that there seems to CONSTANTLY be someone walking through! It's an older lady living there with her grandson. He is late teens/ early 20s maybe and in and out like a yo-yo, no exaggeration. Ditto her boyfriend, her dog walker, her cleaner, her food shop, couriers (she gets at least two packages a day!) .... The latter particularly pisses me off because they often don't close my gate behind them. I have an OAP dog and 4 children, the youngest of whom is 4. It'd take literal seconds to slip out of the garden without anyone noticing 😠 And frankly, now that its summer time it just feels quite intrusive. Strangers walking in and out while my children are playing. I stupidly feel awkward sitting outside to read a book even though it's my fucking garden!

Is it even a legal thing to say that they are over using their access?!

Should also add that I would probably mind all this less except that at the end of last year the handle of my gate broke. It was the week before Christmas and I didn't have time or money to fix it and it wasn't particularly a priority for me, but I told the neighbour I would sort it after Christmas, quite reasonably I thought. (I have a side door so actually rarely use the gate). Neighbour told me I had to fix it because it is "YOUR gate" and "a public right of way" (it isn't 🤣).Then proceeded to tell all the other neighbours that I was "refusing" to fix it because I didn't use it and that she "couldn't even get her food delivered" and would "rather die than use the front door"... After a week of hassle and harassment I ended up getting a friend's husband to fix it for free and neighbour has since apologised but... I don't know, it just left a sour taste.

Is there anything I can do? Do I just have to wait for her to move/die?? 🙈

Sorry but you bought this knowing the access issues. No sympathy

Deepblueokay · 05/07/2026 15:40

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 05/07/2026 13:41

I don’t know why people are being so mean. You’ve been incredibly strong to move yourself and your children away from DV. It must be really upsetting finding yourself living next to another bully.

I know it’ll cost ££ but is there any way to get the gate moved to the bottom of your garden, so she still has access but isn’t walking under your kitchen window?

It sounds like the previous attempt to do that was poo-pooed by her, but surely as long as you’re not obstructing access, it can be on your terms?

I hope you get the deeds soon and find some kind of suitable arrangement. Your neighbour sounds hard work and deliberately difficult.

Good luck with the next steps and I hope you find the peace and quiet you deserve in your own home soon.

Thank you.

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Davidpowell · 05/07/2026 15:23

BlackRowan · 05/07/2026 13:14

I don’t understand why people are having a go at you. The first port of call is your own surveyors because they already have the deeds and they should have looked into this easement and should know from checking the file what it allows legally.
they may be rubbish surveyors though because they should have highlighted this to OP and made sure she understood what it entails (most surveyors are shit though so that itself is not surprising).

anyhow they should already know and the OP doesn’t need to interpret the deeds (not being a lawyer she won’t be able to do it properly anyway). If they missed it is negligence

this inquiry usually doesn’t cost extra

Lots of big words thrown around, including the dreaded N word. The surveyor maybe should have reported to the lender that there are signs of a third party having access over the garden. I say maybe as it’s likely to be value significant.

the surveyors will not have been provided with the title. The solicitor probably should have pointed out the implications of the easement and queried its usage with the vendor.

the easiest solution here is simply to make the use of her garden less convenient to the neighbour.

Should the neighbour decide to go legal they will get plenty of warning before it escalates..

EssexMan55 · 05/07/2026 15:06

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 20:05

I've always lived in terraces and never known anything like this before. Not everyone can afford a 5 bed detached.
"Just move" isn't really an option. Aside from the expense and stress and hassle and uprooting my children again, I actually love the house and the area.

My first house was a terrace in a northern city and it’s totally normal everyone uses the bank door for regular access. Even the letter boxes were in the back doors. If someone tried padlocking gates etc as suggested it would not last long.

user73 · 05/07/2026 14:58

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 20:26

I know you can't legally block it,that's what l said. Others were saying lock the gate and only let neighbour thru with rubbish. You can't block it BUT if you do you run the risk of letting the neighbour pick another alternative route thru your garden.
My back door and free access across my neighbours land was blocked. I climbed out my window, across her picnic table, across her lawn, across her tennis court as she was playing ...as my 'alternative route' l kept this up for a week with my lawyers approval!

Then you were poorly advised. If an easement is blocked you have a very limited right of deviation. Any deviation must be reasonable and necessary and cause limited and minimal disruption. It has to be as close as possible to the route. You had no right whatsoever to climb over picnic tables and go over tennis courts (if indeed you did this which I highly doubt you did). IAAL.

TangfasticAddict · 05/07/2026 14:09

I can’t believe the replies you’re getting OP. We live in a terraced house like this and need to use our neighbours path. We use it once a week for the bins, and every couple of weeks for the lawnmower. And we are conscious enough to time it when we know they’re out, so we don’t wander through when they’re enjoying their garden.

I agree it’s unreasonable behaviour. It may be legal, but that doesn’t make it reasonable. My only suggestion is to try and agree some boundaries, like no deliveries etc.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 05/07/2026 13:41

I don’t know why people are being so mean. You’ve been incredibly strong to move yourself and your children away from DV. It must be really upsetting finding yourself living next to another bully.

I know it’ll cost ££ but is there any way to get the gate moved to the bottom of your garden, so she still has access but isn’t walking under your kitchen window?

It sounds like the previous attempt to do that was poo-pooed by her, but surely as long as you’re not obstructing access, it can be on your terms?

I hope you get the deeds soon and find some kind of suitable arrangement. Your neighbour sounds hard work and deliberately difficult.

Good luck with the next steps and I hope you find the peace and quiet you deserve in your own home soon.

BlackRowan · 05/07/2026 13:14

I don’t understand why people are having a go at you. The first port of call is your own surveyors because they already have the deeds and they should have looked into this easement and should know from checking the file what it allows legally.
they may be rubbish surveyors though because they should have highlighted this to OP and made sure she understood what it entails (most surveyors are shit though so that itself is not surprising).

anyhow they should already know and the OP doesn’t need to interpret the deeds (not being a lawyer she won’t be able to do it properly anyway). If they missed it is negligence

this inquiry usually doesn’t cost extra

AffableApple · 05/07/2026 12:15

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/07/2026 07:12

If op hasn’t got £14 then she hasn’t got it - tho I would be happy to contribute

She can't afford not to TBH.

Either that or accept the situation as is.

She needs facts to move forward. Suggestions made here about blocking off access and locks and diverting paths, are potentially very costly legal errors. Information is key.

Sydmum74 · 05/07/2026 12:09

Get legal advice, the detail is what matters. Access to the garden is different from access to thier house. Anything that can be done vis the front door should be done so, access to garden is for things that can not get to garden any other way, such as wheelbarrow, machinery, fence panels. Your neighbour is being unreasonable and I would.also highlight that random people & leaving gate unlocked is a safeguarding issue for your young children

B33cka8 · 04/07/2026 23:35

Cantthinkofanewusernameffs · 28/06/2026 19:00

Check your deeds. The two people I know, who live in mid terrace houses, only have right of access through their neighbours' gardens to put their dustbins out.

Same* it's not for entering and exiting the house

IckyIck · 04/07/2026 22:55

The various locks suggested probably cost more than £7.

em2026 · 04/07/2026 22:28

Get a self closing lock as mentioned above, and put a note on the gate stating what you will/wont allow due to pets & children.
Infact you don’t even have to give a reason because it’s your gate-but just for ‘niceness’ if need be.
Honestly I’d be fuming & would never expect it to be used like this so completely understand your side of why you bought the house etc. I don’t think anyone would expect this level of disrespect from a neighbour.
If anything is mentioned about lock/sign on gate, I’d tell them they’re risking your children’s safety by doing this. You may have to really stand up for yourself here & it may well cause a fall out BUT you are in the right and they are in the wrong.

IckyIck · 04/07/2026 22:23

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 20:26

I know you can't legally block it,that's what l said. Others were saying lock the gate and only let neighbour thru with rubbish. You can't block it BUT if you do you run the risk of letting the neighbour pick another alternative route thru your garden.
My back door and free access across my neighbours land was blocked. I climbed out my window, across her picnic table, across her lawn, across her tennis court as she was playing ...as my 'alternative route' l kept this up for a week with my lawyers approval!

Good on you! I think 95% of the posts on here are ones giving the OP duff advice but the OP said "I don't want anyone to say anything 🤷🏼‍♀️ I mostly wanted to vent, and have now done so! I've read all the advice and taken it." (3 July 13:26)

PeoplesNet · 04/07/2026 22:07

Davidpowell · 04/07/2026 18:54

Frankly I’d have some fun with them. A piece of paper can say what it wants but when a way is blocked it makes not a lot of difference.

i would start with a low level conversation that I’m a bit worried after reading of garden thefts especially with my house being on the end. I’m arranging for a beefy lock to be fitted to the gate. I’ll obviously unlock it so you can come and go but you might want to find your front door key in case I am out..

then I’d do just that and keep it locked until she asks to come and go.. see how many times she missed parcels etc and gives up!

This too. Plenty of legit ways to put people off abusing access rights.

PeoplesNet · 04/07/2026 22:04

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 18:51

Fully expecting to be told this is my own fault for not looking into it properly but need a vent all the same!

A year ago I moved into an end of terrace house. There is the usual easement arrangement with the adjoining neighbour that they can get access to their back garden via my back garden. I know that is pretty standard and I was obviously aware of it when I purchased. Since moving in however it's become clear that they use it as their primary entrance. They never use their front door. They have a sign on the front door telling post man/ couriers etc to go round the back. Again, wouldn't necessarily be a big issue except that there seems to CONSTANTLY be someone walking through! It's an older lady living there with her grandson. He is late teens/ early 20s maybe and in and out like a yo-yo, no exaggeration. Ditto her boyfriend, her dog walker, her cleaner, her food shop, couriers (she gets at least two packages a day!) .... The latter particularly pisses me off because they often don't close my gate behind them. I have an OAP dog and 4 children, the youngest of whom is 4. It'd take literal seconds to slip out of the garden without anyone noticing 😠 And frankly, now that its summer time it just feels quite intrusive. Strangers walking in and out while my children are playing. I stupidly feel awkward sitting outside to read a book even though it's my fucking garden!

Is it even a legal thing to say that they are over using their access?!

Should also add that I would probably mind all this less except that at the end of last year the handle of my gate broke. It was the week before Christmas and I didn't have time or money to fix it and it wasn't particularly a priority for me, but I told the neighbour I would sort it after Christmas, quite reasonably I thought. (I have a side door so actually rarely use the gate). Neighbour told me I had to fix it because it is "YOUR gate" and "a public right of way" (it isn't 🤣).Then proceeded to tell all the other neighbours that I was "refusing" to fix it because I didn't use it and that she "couldn't even get her food delivered" and would "rather die than use the front door"... After a week of hassle and harassment I ended up getting a friend's husband to fix it for free and neighbour has since apologised but... I don't know, it just left a sour taste.

Is there anything I can do? Do I just have to wait for her to move/die?? 🙈

Personally, I'd blockade it with a super tall / heavy gate and multiple locks (due to gate having been left open, ensure it locks automatically) and give her all the keys to various bolts / padlocks etc. Make sure you're there to lock it thoroughly each time she comes through and don't engage in any discussions about it.

She will soon get sick of having to deal with that and you're not required to give anyone but her access to her back garden so don't give delivery people any keys - I highly doubt she is allowed to use it as her main entrance. Check the wording of her easement / your deeds.

Curious why she would rather die than use her actual front door..

Olive123456 · 04/07/2026 21:57

BigBilly · 29/06/2026 15:02

I wish it was ok, I can't see a problem with it but people who have the right to use on foot with or without workmen at all times and for all purposes are not likely to accept this. The op could try this but it might depend on how deep everypnes pockets are in my experience!

I did exactly that because I had to cat proof my garden.

HeatherCross · 04/07/2026 20:26

I know you can't legally block it,that's what l said. Others were saying lock the gate and only let neighbour thru with rubbish. You can't block it BUT if you do you run the risk of letting the neighbour pick another alternative route thru your garden.
My back door and free access across my neighbours land was blocked. I climbed out my window, across her picnic table, across her lawn, across her tennis court as she was playing ...as my 'alternative route' l kept this up for a week with my lawyers approval!

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