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AIBU to object to neighbour using my garden as their main access?

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Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 18:51

Fully expecting to be told this is my own fault for not looking into it properly but need a vent all the same!

A year ago I moved into an end of terrace house. There is the usual easement arrangement with the adjoining neighbour that they can get access to their back garden via my back garden. I know that is pretty standard and I was obviously aware of it when I purchased. Since moving in however it's become clear that they use it as their primary entrance. They never use their front door. They have a sign on the front door telling post man/ couriers etc to go round the back. Again, wouldn't necessarily be a big issue except that there seems to CONSTANTLY be someone walking through! It's an older lady living there with her grandson. He is late teens/ early 20s maybe and in and out like a yo-yo, no exaggeration. Ditto her boyfriend, her dog walker, her cleaner, her food shop, couriers (she gets at least two packages a day!) .... The latter particularly pisses me off because they often don't close my gate behind them. I have an OAP dog and 4 children, the youngest of whom is 4. It'd take literal seconds to slip out of the garden without anyone noticing 😠 And frankly, now that its summer time it just feels quite intrusive. Strangers walking in and out while my children are playing. I stupidly feel awkward sitting outside to read a book even though it's my fucking garden!

Is it even a legal thing to say that they are over using their access?!

Should also add that I would probably mind all this less except that at the end of last year the handle of my gate broke. It was the week before Christmas and I didn't have time or money to fix it and it wasn't particularly a priority for me, but I told the neighbour I would sort it after Christmas, quite reasonably I thought. (I have a side door so actually rarely use the gate). Neighbour told me I had to fix it because it is "YOUR gate" and "a public right of way" (it isn't 🤣).Then proceeded to tell all the other neighbours that I was "refusing" to fix it because I didn't use it and that she "couldn't even get her food delivered" and would "rather die than use the front door"... After a week of hassle and harassment I ended up getting a friend's husband to fix it for free and neighbour has since apologised but... I don't know, it just left a sour taste.

Is there anything I can do? Do I just have to wait for her to move/die?? 🙈

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notanotherfootballmatch · 28/06/2026 22:23

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 20:35

This is all I can really find.

I can't quite read that properly on my phone but it looks like it's referring to a specific plan. Is there anything else that refers to that plan? You could phone land registry and ask them how to get a copy of it.

It is possible to agree to move rights if you and the neighbours could agree. No idea how expensive that would be to do.

saraclara · 28/06/2026 22:23

there’s several house next to each other, so wouldn’t that mean someone is walking through several gardens to get to theirs?

Potentially yes @amraa . My daughter's house is the middle one of a terrace of nine (not the terrace in the photo in my other post). No-one needs to use part of the path in her garden as obviously they have shorter routes, which is great for her. But she has to use the path the length of four houses to put her bin at the end of the terrace (which is the designated bin collection space for those five houses).

DryadsRest · 28/06/2026 22:22

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 20:35

This is all I can really find.

It reads as if they should contributing to the maintenance of the access - possibly financially

Adelle79360 · 28/06/2026 22:22

We looked at an ex council house that had this arrangement, it was a no from us. The estate agent showing us round said it was for dustbins, but obviously we didn’t take it any further to actually check that out. We found another house with no such easement, still a mid terrace, but nobody walking up by the windows!

OP you should have had a report from
your solicitor when you bought the house, and they should have explained in that exactly what the easement allows. If you’ve kept all your paperwork try and find that as it’ll be in layman’s terms rather than the title document which is the legal wording.

IckyIck · 28/06/2026 22:19

Check the actual DEEDS, @Deepblueokay .

Get information about property and land: Get a copy of the deeds - GOV.UK

FudgeFudy · 28/06/2026 22:19

Arlanymor · 28/06/2026 22:04

Totally will depend, but my parents' home (Wales) refers to dominant tenement and means the people - it's there in black and white. It also states they are not allowed a 'merry-go-round' on their property - goodness knows where that tenet came in! As I said - check the deeds.

Dominant tenement never, ever refers to people, it is the piece of land that benefits from an easement. The piece of land that is burdened by the easement being the servient tenement. It may be that only certain people can make use of the easement (such as the occupier of the dominant tenement), but that's a different thing.

Cantthinkofanewusernameffs · 28/06/2026 22:18

canklesmctacotits · 28/06/2026 22:07

Don’t they just go out the back door into their garden/yard from inside the house, then come back in through the same door? Why do they need another access to their garden/yard than the one in their own home? Why do they need to use someone else’s property to access their property if they have their own door? Isn’t that what a door is for? For entering/exiting a space? I ask as someone who’s only ever lived in apartments!

It's usually to allow people to take their dustbins from their back gardens round to the street, rather then have to wheel the bins through their house.

Someone mentioned earlier doing the same with children's bikes that are kept in a garden shed.

justasking111 · 28/06/2026 22:17

I'd speak to your solicitor.

missymousey · 28/06/2026 22:16

Can you lock it but give her a key? That way she has a right of access so her household can use it but deliveries etc can't.

saraclara · 28/06/2026 22:16

Autumn211 · 28/06/2026 20:50

Yes you can, as long as you provide the neighbours with a key. They would soon get bored of having to unlock it and relock it so many times a day. Apart from that, why shouldnt the OP secure her garden. The neighbour has a right of way, but they don't own her property. She has a right to secure it for her pets and children.

You're right, but some posters seemed to think that OP could prevent the neighbour accessing the path by locking the gate

IckyIck · 28/06/2026 22:13

canklesmctacotits · 28/06/2026 22:07

Don’t they just go out the back door into their garden/yard from inside the house, then come back in through the same door? Why do they need another access to their garden/yard than the one in their own home? Why do they need to use someone else’s property to access their property if they have their own door? Isn’t that what a door is for? For entering/exiting a space? I ask as someone who’s only ever lived in apartments!

To have coal delivered or to put the bins on the street, or deliveries of things like huge fridge freezers or garden sheds.

Cordeliasdemonbabies · 28/06/2026 22:11

When I lived in Sheffield no one used the front door if they lived in a terrace. Many people put furniture in front of the door. My letterbox was on the back door.

My neighbours had access across my garden next to the house on the deeds however the whole terrace blocked off a path at the end of the gardens with fences and gates so that was a general access point. It worked well.

BridgetJonesV2 · 28/06/2026 22:10

That sounds an absolute nightmare OP.

I think I'd get some legal advice on this rather than start a war you can't win, but I'd be buggered if I'd make their access easy. Can your kids start leaving bikes/big toys out and your wheelie bins or stop picking up your dog poo.... or pile it on the path. Make it as awkward as bloody possible, just as she's being awkward.

canklesmctacotits · 28/06/2026 22:07

saraclara · 28/06/2026 20:19

You've lived a sheltered life. Have you never seen terraced houses with front doors that open straight to the pavement? How do you think people access their back doors?

Don’t they just go out the back door into their garden/yard from inside the house, then come back in through the same door? Why do they need another access to their garden/yard than the one in their own home? Why do they need to use someone else’s property to access their property if they have their own door? Isn’t that what a door is for? For entering/exiting a space? I ask as someone who’s only ever lived in apartments!

MxCactus · 28/06/2026 22:05

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 20:35

This is all I can really find.

What are the rights noted above??

Arlanymor · 28/06/2026 22:04

YourGiddyGreyHelper · 28/06/2026 21:21

Not true. The "dominant tenement" means the property itself, not the people occupying the property. The neighbours rights of access will depend entirely on the precise words used in the relevant title document (assuming this is England or Wales).

Totally will depend, but my parents' home (Wales) refers to dominant tenement and means the people - it's there in black and white. It also states they are not allowed a 'merry-go-round' on their property - goodness knows where that tenet came in! As I said - check the deeds.

TiggyTomCat · 28/06/2026 22:04

You will give a right of way over the land coloured green on the plan dated 1989 subject to their contributing towards the maintenance and repair of the same

I guess it depends on what the land coloured green consists of....is it the entire garden or just a designated pathway.....and have they contributed towards the maintenance and repair?

roseymoira · 28/06/2026 21:58

Isn’t that saying they have a right to access subject to them contributing towards maintenance? Have they contributed towards maintenance? Or did they just harass you over the gate

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 28/06/2026 21:57

My sister has this with her house but I don’t think her neighbours ever use it except on bin day. My mum also has it too and as she’s in the middle she can go through her neighbour’s garden. However they all rarely do this and use their front doors and front yard space for bins.

can you somehow fence off a little path? Not sure how feasible that would be though

amraa · 28/06/2026 21:56

@saraclarahaven’t lived a sheltered life yet never ever heard of this! I can’t even imagine it in my head I need a diagram. Ur photo confuses me even more, there’s several house next to each other, so wouldn’t that mean someone is walking through several gardens to get to theirs?
It’s bizarre that they wouldn’t use the front door for delivery, seems like the easiest option

HoppingPavlova · 28/06/2026 21:55

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 21:25

Yeah, same. I know I didn't look into it properly because I was just so desperate to get away from my ex by the end. It just never occurred to me that anyone would use it like this 😩

Okay, but what do your Deeds actually state regarding this.

Pearlstillsinging · 28/06/2026 21:54

TreesinthePark · 28/06/2026 21:37

So if its a long row say 9 houses could someone have 4 neighbours who walk through, next house has 3 neighbours entering etc?

Could you need access via a neighbour and also have to grant access to next house along? Genuine question here and hope doesn't sound too daft or ignorant. Thank you

I know someone who used to live in the middle of a terrace of 30 houses. There was an access road at the back, with land where some residents had built garages/put washing lines etc BUT there was a footpath literally through the middle of every front garden. Originally it would have been so that all the workers at the mill opposite could come out of their front door and follow the quickest route to work. More recently it seemed that only the window-cleaner used it regularly but any resident/visitor could have done.

Londonrach1 · 28/06/2026 21:53

Catlady724 · 28/06/2026 19:31

This is crazy and would drive me mental! Agree with others she is taking the mick massively. I would put a lock on the gate and inform her she can only have access for her bins or some kind of emergency. She will have to use her front door like a normal person or go buy a house where she has her own free access to her back door. What a strange woman!

You could be in serious trouble if you locked the gate as potentially the neighbour has a legal right here. Op needs to check her deeds.

BraOffPjsOn · 28/06/2026 21:53

hunnybunnyboo · 28/06/2026 21:47

Some friends of ours fell in love with this house but decided against putting in an offer due to this exact situation.
It was in the agents notes on the listing and they tried persuading themselves it would be a once a week thing for bins, but realised it could be a daily thing with difficult neighbours.
I personally would want a private garden for the price of the house!
www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/88376772#/?channel=RES_BUY

Just read this listing and then checked my new house listing 😂
thanks for this!

TheCurious0range · 28/06/2026 21:52

Thechaseison71 · 28/06/2026 20:13

You probably are privileged enough to live in a bigger house with easy access from the front

I think it's not as common in the south, I lived in a terrace in east London growing up and no one was wandering through people's gardens unless they were running from police. I then lived in an end terrace 50s build in Essex but even the attached houses had alleys. I now live in an Edwardian semi but there are lots of Victorian terraces around and those without side access keep their bins in the tiny yards at the front.

Until I visited a friend in Yorkshire I didn't know what a back to back was, I'd never seen one!