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AIBU to object to neighbour using my garden as their main access?

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Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 18:51

Fully expecting to be told this is my own fault for not looking into it properly but need a vent all the same!

A year ago I moved into an end of terrace house. There is the usual easement arrangement with the adjoining neighbour that they can get access to their back garden via my back garden. I know that is pretty standard and I was obviously aware of it when I purchased. Since moving in however it's become clear that they use it as their primary entrance. They never use their front door. They have a sign on the front door telling post man/ couriers etc to go round the back. Again, wouldn't necessarily be a big issue except that there seems to CONSTANTLY be someone walking through! It's an older lady living there with her grandson. He is late teens/ early 20s maybe and in and out like a yo-yo, no exaggeration. Ditto her boyfriend, her dog walker, her cleaner, her food shop, couriers (she gets at least two packages a day!) .... The latter particularly pisses me off because they often don't close my gate behind them. I have an OAP dog and 4 children, the youngest of whom is 4. It'd take literal seconds to slip out of the garden without anyone noticing 😠 And frankly, now that its summer time it just feels quite intrusive. Strangers walking in and out while my children are playing. I stupidly feel awkward sitting outside to read a book even though it's my fucking garden!

Is it even a legal thing to say that they are over using their access?!

Should also add that I would probably mind all this less except that at the end of last year the handle of my gate broke. It was the week before Christmas and I didn't have time or money to fix it and it wasn't particularly a priority for me, but I told the neighbour I would sort it after Christmas, quite reasonably I thought. (I have a side door so actually rarely use the gate). Neighbour told me I had to fix it because it is "YOUR gate" and "a public right of way" (it isn't 🤣).Then proceeded to tell all the other neighbours that I was "refusing" to fix it because I didn't use it and that she "couldn't even get her food delivered" and would "rather die than use the front door"... After a week of hassle and harassment I ended up getting a friend's husband to fix it for free and neighbour has since apologised but... I don't know, it just left a sour taste.

Is there anything I can do? Do I just have to wait for her to move/die?? 🙈

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lightreflectingonwater · 29/06/2026 13:59

MajorProcrastination · 29/06/2026 12:15

Lots of sensible advice here re deeds and legal advice. I just wanted to add the extra layer of safeguarding concerns if the neighbours allowing others to use that entrance so frequently in a garden which your four children should be able to use safely. Also as a dog owner, it's my responsibility to keep my dog under control and that's really hard if you're having to rely on all these strangers properly shutting a gate behind them.

Well op should have thought of that before buying a property with a path running through it.

Deepblueokay · 29/06/2026 13:59

Sigh

I really don't want to remove or extinguish or otherwise interfere with her access. I just feel that it is being used in a way which is beyond reasonable. This is not my first rodeo, I have lived in plenty of terraced houses and I understand the purpose of the easement, but I have never known anyone else use it in this manner!

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lightreflectingonwater · 29/06/2026 13:54

Deepblueokay · 29/06/2026 13:44

I'm not trying to "extinguish" their rights. But what about my right to a secure home and garden? I didn't buy a dog or have 4 kids on a whim ...

Unfortunately you bought a house where someone else has a right of access running through the garden. They are free to use that unless you are able to negotiate (probably at considerable cost) removing their rights

notanotherfootballmatch · 29/06/2026 13:49

Deepblueokay · 29/06/2026 13:44

I'm not trying to "extinguish" their rights. But what about my right to a secure home and garden? I didn't buy a dog or have 4 kids on a whim ...

That's the term used when a right is removed. If she has a right to walk where she is walking then you would actually want to extinguish that right and potentially regrant another allowing a different route. You can only do this with her agreement though.

BigBilly · 29/06/2026 13:46

FudgeFudy · 29/06/2026 13:37

Indeed. If the neighbour's property has an easement that allows them access over the OP's property, then they have an easement that allows them access over the OP's property. The neighbour's rights do not get extinguished because the OP buys a dog, or an expensive bike, or has kids, or is just a bit fed up. Those rights were there before the OP bought the place and it is down to the OP to work round them.

If the OP could quote from the actual Land Registry entry for her property so we can see what the neighbour's rights actually are then we might be able to get somewhere, but it seems highly likely that the most OP can do is 1. separate the bit of land that the neighbour has access over from the rest of her garden with some sort of barrier, and 2. install spring-loaded gates.

Fudgefudy - agree with you on this, apart from the separating the piece of land part, seemingly you cannot do that without complicated plans that have to be agreed with the neighbour(s) that have the right, and agreement with someone who wishes to stubbornly exercise their right (rightly or wrongly) seems unlikely. What I did was to install a very annoying DIY shop style "bing bong! " Onto the gate so that it sounded everytiem the neighbour used it. That way it acted as a warning to keep dogs indoors so they weren't freely roaming around on the easement.

Deepblueokay · 29/06/2026 13:44

FudgeFudy · 29/06/2026 13:37

Indeed. If the neighbour's property has an easement that allows them access over the OP's property, then they have an easement that allows them access over the OP's property. The neighbour's rights do not get extinguished because the OP buys a dog, or an expensive bike, or has kids, or is just a bit fed up. Those rights were there before the OP bought the place and it is down to the OP to work round them.

If the OP could quote from the actual Land Registry entry for her property so we can see what the neighbour's rights actually are then we might be able to get somewhere, but it seems highly likely that the most OP can do is 1. separate the bit of land that the neighbour has access over from the rest of her garden with some sort of barrier, and 2. install spring-loaded gates.

I'm not trying to "extinguish" their rights. But what about my right to a secure home and garden? I didn't buy a dog or have 4 kids on a whim ...

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Deepblueokay · 29/06/2026 13:42

I'm not going to do anything without getting all my facts together first. I will definitely get hold of the deeds as a next step, I honestly don't remember seeing them before.

She didn't contribute to the gate repair, she initially mentioned the handle being wobbly a few weeks before it actually broke off but said "don't worry, I will get someone to look at it" . But the day it fully broke off and she was "trapped" was when she became abusive and said it was my problem and I had to immediately deal with it. And denied saying she would sort it (even though I have the text message where she said she would 😅) I can only presume she didn't contribute to the last instance of it breaking either because she was slagging the previous owner off for buying a cheap handle 🤣 Would this be enough to prevent her access, given she hasn't contributed to maintenance? I don't actually want to stop her using it altogether, just want her to stop taking the piss.

There's been other issues which just make me feel generally uncomfortable around her if I'm honest.

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jeaux90 · 29/06/2026 13:38

OP can you please post more of the deeds? It doesn’t tell us much. If it’s non specific and it’s just access then rather than having the gate by your kitchen can you put a gate at the back of the garden and through that wall/boundary and fence off the end? I would put that in legally as a safeguarding mitigation. You can’t have all and sundry walking through a garden with DC in. I reckon the planning office would take that seriously.

FudgeFudy · 29/06/2026 13:37

BigBilly · 29/06/2026 12:36

I know people are saying it's a safety issue for your dogs and children, unfortunately the burden of responsibility is on you to keep yours (and others') dogs and children safe and allow full and unfettered access at all time and for all purposes across the easement at any time. It's abitter pill to swallow but it needs swallowing or you put the for sale board up ..

please don't have happen to you what happened to me and end up in 100k of debt over it!

Indeed. If the neighbour's property has an easement that allows them access over the OP's property, then they have an easement that allows them access over the OP's property. The neighbour's rights do not get extinguished because the OP buys a dog, or an expensive bike, or has kids, or is just a bit fed up. Those rights were there before the OP bought the place and it is down to the OP to work round them.

If the OP could quote from the actual Land Registry entry for her property so we can see what the neighbour's rights actually are then we might be able to get somewhere, but it seems highly likely that the most OP can do is 1. separate the bit of land that the neighbour has access over from the rest of her garden with some sort of barrier, and 2. install spring-loaded gates.

lightreflectingonwater · 29/06/2026 13:12

@Deepblueokay you are getting a lot of opinions on here from people who clearly don't understand the law at all, so please be very wary of following their advice

lightreflectingonwater · 29/06/2026 13:10

Elboob · 29/06/2026 12:57

They certainly didn't contribute when the lock was broken. So this is a direct breaking of that part of the agreement.

Nonsense. There should t be a lock there as it's a shared access

lightreflectingonwater · 29/06/2026 13:05

FudgeFudy · 29/06/2026 09:55

Agreed, quite a lot of people are basing their advice not on any legal principles but on their personal incredulity of the situation and what they reckon the OP should be able to do.

Here is a link to what an actual land lawyer has said about this type of situation: https://www.hughes-paddison.co.uk/site/blog/property-litigation-blog/rights-of-way-is-a-gate-an-obstruction

...and here is an extract from it:

The legal test in the case of alleged obstructions, put simply, is: "can the right of way be substantially and practically exercised as conveniently as before?" The answer in most cases is that a single unlocked gate will not normally be held to be a substantial interference.
But anything more than an unlocked gate probably will be held by the court to be a substantial interference and therefore unlawful.

This isn't to say that the OP definitely can't legally lock the gate, it's just that breezily saying 'Oh it'll be alright, because it's what I'd want to do' may be wide of the mark too. For the thousand and one'th time, it'll depend on the deeds.

yes, just a couple of years ago I helped (at work) deal with a property owner who thought they could put a lock on a shared access.

Thankfully they backed down (having paid for legal advice) before we took them to court

lightreflectingonwater · 29/06/2026 13:01

Deepblueokay · 28/06/2026 19:39

It just very much seems to be a "I've lived here 40 years and I've never used my front door!" thing. That and I think she just expected me to take her BS "public right of way" thing as gospel 🙄

If she has been living there for decades and using it that way then in addition to any rights in the deeds she will also have acquired prescriptive rights to continue to use it in that way

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 29/06/2026 12:59

JFDIYOLO · 29/06/2026 11:57

Let's stop asking the OP why she bought - she has explained her situation.

OP - See a solicitor asap and find out the legal position.

If they DO have right of way, accept it and find out how you can accommodate it at minimum inconvenience to you and minimum opportunity to take the piss for them.

From your diagram, you might be able to sacrifice a slice right at the end of your garden, fence it off as a path and let it lead direct to her fence. She could put a gate in.

If they don't, get your solicitor to let them know and get your fences, gates and locks sorted.

Either way, they need to be told they can't have deliveries coming through your garden, that's what their front door is for.

You need informed legal advice now you're settled in because you don't want any more hassle.

They can use it for any purpose. The easement is for the property so deliveries etc can use it. As long as noone loiters on it they could use it all day every day if they wanted.

Elboob · 29/06/2026 12:57

AffableApple · 29/06/2026 12:22

What is (a)?

Which bit is marked green?

Has your neighbour been contributing to maintenance and repair?

What does your solicitor say?

They certainly didn't contribute when the lock was broken. So this is a direct breaking of that part of the agreement.

MinnieMountain · 29/06/2026 12:54

You need to post the actual wording from your title documents OP, not just the summary from the report.

BigBilly · 29/06/2026 12:36

I know people are saying it's a safety issue for your dogs and children, unfortunately the burden of responsibility is on you to keep yours (and others') dogs and children safe and allow full and unfettered access at all time and for all purposes across the easement at any time. It's abitter pill to swallow but it needs swallowing or you put the for sale board up ..

please don't have happen to you what happened to me and end up in 100k of debt over it!

AffableApple · 29/06/2026 12:22

What is (a)?

Which bit is marked green?

Has your neighbour been contributing to maintenance and repair?

What does your solicitor say?

IckyIck · 29/06/2026 12:22

@Laurmolonlabe , so I would get the council involved -go to environmental health and explain the problem, they may refer you to building control as well.
The council won't deal with it, it's not in their remit.

@Kalanthe , the conveyancer will have flagged it up.

MajorProcrastination · 29/06/2026 12:15

Lots of sensible advice here re deeds and legal advice. I just wanted to add the extra layer of safeguarding concerns if the neighbours allowing others to use that entrance so frequently in a garden which your four children should be able to use safely. Also as a dog owner, it's my responsibility to keep my dog under control and that's really hard if you're having to rely on all these strangers properly shutting a gate behind them.

BraOffPjsOn · 29/06/2026 12:03

Deepblueokay · 29/06/2026 11:19

I'm the red box. She is attached. I don't know what the houses in the middle do but noone else has ever asked or needed to have access to my garden. Her garden gate is directly opposite my garden gate at the end of the garden closest to the house. They have to walk past my kitchen window.

So it looks like you need to check her deeds to see where the green access route is.

This would drive me insane too OP.

OtterLovesItsRock · 29/06/2026 12:02

JFDIYOLO · 29/06/2026 11:57

Let's stop asking the OP why she bought - she has explained her situation.

OP - See a solicitor asap and find out the legal position.

If they DO have right of way, accept it and find out how you can accommodate it at minimum inconvenience to you and minimum opportunity to take the piss for them.

From your diagram, you might be able to sacrifice a slice right at the end of your garden, fence it off as a path and let it lead direct to her fence. She could put a gate in.

If they don't, get your solicitor to let them know and get your fences, gates and locks sorted.

Either way, they need to be told they can't have deliveries coming through your garden, that's what their front door is for.

You need informed legal advice now you're settled in because you don't want any more hassle.

Don't sacrifice any land!!!

ABitFab · 29/06/2026 11:58

Oh gosh I hope you can sort it! What a joke.

JFDIYOLO · 29/06/2026 11:57

Let's stop asking the OP why she bought - she has explained her situation.

OP - See a solicitor asap and find out the legal position.

If they DO have right of way, accept it and find out how you can accommodate it at minimum inconvenience to you and minimum opportunity to take the piss for them.

From your diagram, you might be able to sacrifice a slice right at the end of your garden, fence it off as a path and let it lead direct to her fence. She could put a gate in.

If they don't, get your solicitor to let them know and get your fences, gates and locks sorted.

Either way, they need to be told they can't have deliveries coming through your garden, that's what their front door is for.

You need informed legal advice now you're settled in because you don't want any more hassle.

Augustus40 · 29/06/2026 11:51

I personally would have avoided any easements such as this.

You need legal advice.