AIBU to think neighbours should not be naked in their garden?

Well, I didn’t grow up seeing my granny in the nude and I doubt that many people did so no it’s not normal.

I live in a London suburb with a small garden that is overlooked by about 4 houses and their gardens are overlooked in turn. No one is out there in the nude to be seen by their neighbours, there’s just no need.

Sound like a real bunch of exhibitionists to say the least. I would get in touch with your local council and police for advice on this.

As you say your house looks straight into their garden.You are not being prudish, nosey or judgemental. Just decent and respectful

As another poster said they thought this maybe about some kind of sex stuff. Maybe they are Swingers. Or post their escapades on the Web. You know idiots who are legends in their own sad little world

If they start to grow pampas grass in their garden. That is a sure sign that they are. In joke from the Seventies.

Best of luck.
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I’ve seen it asked a few times but nobody has answered.

Is the problem just naked men or are women naked in their gardens an issue as well?

Yeap. And there’s always so much faux naivety about the behaviour.

“Whattt?? You would care if your child saw your next door neighbour’s penis? Really?! iTs juSt a BODY” Eye roll.

In the OPs case it's not just "traditional" nudist gardening in the nude or whatever though - it's a lot of adults drinking, carrying on in a hot tub, and with an outdoor bar called "dirty dicks" (or something). There's no way there's not sexual activity going on, and in the location, that's public indecency.

It really is not 'prudishness'.

It is about not wanting random people to force the sight of their naked body on others.

I don't want to see my neighbours naked, thank you very much.

I also think you are very naive to think that nudity is 'not sexual' and that it is all about 'our natural state' when we know full well that some people absolutely get a thrill out of exposing themselves to strangers.

It really is not OK either for kids to have to look at the naked bodies of strangers.

Frankly it is just basic manners and decency to respect other people and grasp that as a society we have boundaries in place which involve not wanting to be expose to nudity unless we choose to.

Im sick to death of the ...they can do whatever they want in their own garden....brigade.
No it isnt acceptable especially if there are children around.
Scumbag behaviour isnt ok just because you own or rent the place.
When you have neighbours you need to keep the peace and have some consideration and manners.
There was a fatal stabbing here recently when a long standing parking dispute made a neighbour finally snap.
He killed both house owners leaving their children orphans and went to prison for life.
We're going to see much more of this as the population grows and people are forced to live in smaller spaces and it gets hotter every year
If people behave like rancid, mannerless scum there will be more and more violence.
Im a naturist and keep my naturist activities to a proper club with a pool. I dont expect my neighbours to have to look at my wrinkly old buttocks.
Likewise swingers. Go swing at a club. We dont want to see it.

I agree, look at my posts.

I agree.

I also think that one of the things that divides opinion is that people can’t help picturing their own house and garden no matter how much info is given about the poster’s. It’s the same with parking threads I think. You can’t help having in your mind’s eye a street/house/garden layout that reflects something you are familiar with.

So people with lots of privacy are thinking ‘so what?’ while people like me in a London Victorian terrace are thinking no flipping way would any of us do this.

Really i saw my granny and other nudist adults when I was a child, its normal and healhy to know how bodies look, nudity is not sexual its our natural state making it such a big deal is worse and shows the result of such prudishness.

Agree with this.

There’s definitely been a change in society over the last two to three decades. Previously it was very much typical of British society that you thought about others around you, and were considerate of them.

Now there’s much more ‘I’ll do what I want, and nobody tells me what to do’.

It’s not just unwanted glimpses of naked arses in next door’s garden, it’s stuff like playing Tik Toks loudly on a train without headphones, and having parties in your back garden till 3am every single Saturday night.

It worked better all round when we were more considerate of others and not just all about me, me, me.

I honestly thought it was always illegal to be naked anywhere where people may see you (outside of your home), except on the nude beaches.

I guess you learn something every day.

In a successful society personal freedoms need to be balanced with the impact of those freedoms on others. People think differently about the balance required. IMO in modern society we seem to be moving towards pursuing individual autonomy and personal freedom at the cost of neighbourliness and consideration for others.

In this case - people are choosing to spend time in their garden naked despite the fact they know they are overlooked by neighbours who may not wish to see them naked. It’s not illegal, it’s not morally wrong, but it would be hard to argue they are being considerate of their neighbours. And many people will think well why should they be - it’s their garden, their body, their choice. Some people will place their right to exercise their personal freedom to be naked as a higher priority and some will place their duty of consideration for their neighbours as a higher priority. That’s why these kind of threads are always so polarising.

I think it is weird and most people irl would also despite the views of Mumsnet folk

I walk around naked in my apartment with blinds up, with other apartment blocks all around.

I just couldn’t care less.

What’s wrong really, with people seeing your tits and arse?

Big difference between 'spying' and accidentally catching a glimpse of something you really wish you hadn't.

IKR! I'm wondering if these are autocorrect fails or if people really don't know the difference between a naturalist and a naturist... could get them into some sticky situations, I'd have thought!

I also forgot to add one of the guys in my rock n roll Sunday night quiz team does the naked London bike ride! I had a LOT of questions for him…

We had a couple opposite us with no bedroom curtains
so got treated to a daily show of bare flesh
played it down didn’t make a big deal novelty soon wore off and we just found it amusing
didn’t help that our dining room table is in front of full length patio doors opposite them

Ah you’re one of those pearl clutchers who insist that naturists are always “parading”! 😂😂 We’re just ordinary people without clothes. It’s just a human body, we’ve all got one!

Just because you have a child doesn't mean you can speak for all children. I would have absolutely hated to have to see random strangers naked when I was a child.

And as a parent I wouldn't have thought you would want to put your child in the position of having to 'discern' anything about the appropriacy of naked strangers in the first place. What will you do when the time comes that your child wants you to stop being naked in front of them? Will you call them a prude too?

Police call-handlers are furnished with the College of Policing Guidelines on nudity, copy below.
www.google.com/url?q=library.college.police.uk/docs/college-of-policing/C849IO118-public-nudity-aid-revised.pdf&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjAqbzL1qWVAxWDB9sEHUo8OM4QFnoECBAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3nxcpP5hBFts_HDMjR3zuB

It is common etiquette amongst naturists to always carry a towel with them to sit on when in public places.

The law was changed in 2003, so Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 incorporates the rights of naturists to go about their normal business without fear of criminalisation. So in the absence of sexual context and/or a deliberate attempt to cause alarm, harassment or distress then simple nudity is of itself not illegal.

But being in your own back garden on your own land naked is hardly actively showing them to people 🙄, unlike being naked in public places and jiggling it all about.

Children are capable of being discerning e.g. they can learn what situations are appropriate and what aren't. I have my own child therefore speak from experience.