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To think there is no genuine reason a 40-year-old man would be interested in a 22-year-old?

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Frequency · 06/06/2026 12:00

DD is online dating again and is messaging with a 40-year-old man. She is utterly convinced that he is interested in her as a person and that he is a genuine man. They like the same music, attend the same concerts, play the same games, and follow the same anime series.

I believe there are only 2 reasons a man this age would be interested in a 22-year-old.

  1. He wants the kudos of bedding a woman in their 20s.

  2. There is something wrong with him, and women his own age are too old and wise to tolerate his bullshit, so he needs to target women too young to know better.

For context, I am 44, and the idea of dating one of DD's mates is horrifying. I like them well enough. I'll happily sit and have a drink with them or a night out with them, but some of the things they say and do are childish and irritating, and I'd sooner gouge out my eyeballs with a rusty spork than be in a committed relationship with one of them.

According to DD, he works full-time and owns his own home, so he is not a basement-dwelling incel.

He wants to take her out for dinner on Monday. She's told him she's on her period, and he says that's fine, they're only going for dinner, and he doesn't want sex with her on their first date. He wants to get to know her. I don't believe him, but it's convinced DD even more that he is genuine.

OP posts:
MrsBatshitRatshit · 08/06/2026 15:21

Men are genetically programmed to want to have sex with young and fertile women; so there is a 'genuine' reason, but whether it is a 'good' reason is quite another issue. The reproductive instinct does not care whether the man and the woman would be happy together, or whether the man would stick around to help raise the children.

HelmholtzWatson · 08/06/2026 14:39

Twisterlollies · 08/06/2026 10:10

I definitely think part of the outrage is that the dynamic (as well as concerns about power imbalances etc) feels unfair to middle aged women, who understandably want a man their own age but feel dismayed that they seem more attracted to women 10+ years younger. It upsets the balance as a lot of people wind up single in their 40s (age when a lot of first marriages start to implode) and it’s disheartening for them that the only men interested are at least 10 years older.

Yeah, this. Sucks to be a single middle aged women who is interested in dating men her own age. Complaining on the internet about it might make you feel better, but it's not going to change their preferences.

Fancythatfancyhat · 08/06/2026 12:50

Twisterlollies · 08/06/2026 12:25

But she isn’t a newborn now. I don’t see the point in raising things like this.

I've never understood this. Everyone was a newborn once, but he wasn't trying to date her when he was 18 and she was a new born? It's a reach because they can't really justify why they want to impose restrictions on a grown woman's autonomy so they can to reduce her to a time when she was a newborn baby.

Fancythatfancyhat · 08/06/2026 12:48

Frequency · 08/06/2026 10:18

There has been a positive update from DD. The other young man she's been messaging with/meeting up with asked her on Saturday if she would consider deleting dating apps and agree to only chat/meet up with each other, and she agreed, so the date tonight has been cancelled, thank God. This lad is local, closer in age, and they have a few friends in common, so we know he is not married with three kids at home.

I met her dad when I was 19 and was living with him, with a baby and a mortgage by 21, so I never dated. I don't understand dating. Apparently, this does not mean they are a couple; it means they are considering becoming a couple Confused. But I am happy tonight's date is now off the cards.

There was some good advice on this thread regarding drink spiking/did he have her music preferences on his profile or did he agree with hers when she told him, etc., so I'll keep all of that in mind in case it doesn't work out with this guy and we end up back here in a couple of months.

In all likelihood though this young guy is also a waste of space who wants your daughter to reduce her options while he makes no commitment to actually date her. You sound overly involved and you are skewing everything through your own lense because you perceived yourself as somehow being a child at 21 (even though you had a baby and a mortgage). I think you need to expect that dating is something your daughter is going to have to experience highs and lows with, and you can't necessarily control that.

Twisterlollies · 08/06/2026 12:25

50sandFabulous · 08/06/2026 12:23

When he was 18, she was a newborn. WTF is wrong with these men? Of course his primary goal is sex. And if they have any type of relationship, he will always have the upper hand and an element of control, as he has a lifetime of experience that she doesn't have. She's going to get hurt, imo.

But she isn’t a newborn now. I don’t see the point in raising things like this.

50sandFabulous · 08/06/2026 12:23

When he was 18, she was a newborn. WTF is wrong with these men? Of course his primary goal is sex. And if they have any type of relationship, he will always have the upper hand and an element of control, as he has a lifetime of experience that she doesn't have. She's going to get hurt, imo.

HoppingPavlova · 08/06/2026 11:09

It’s not necessarily nefarious. When I was early 20’s, I would date men roughly mid 30’s to mid 40’s. From my perspective, it was because men my own age were usually immature dicks. From their perspective, they had been head down, bum up, completely absorbed in establishing a career, then get to the point where they can lift their head and look around. A woman their own age is no good as they want to get married and have a family so they go a ‘good prospect’ for this. All of my male friends did this, nothing about a fetish or being controlling.

As I got older, I could naturally start and ‘reel back’, the age of men I dated going for men closer to my own age, as they had then matured over time.

XenoBitch · 08/06/2026 10:58

Dancingintherain09 · 08/06/2026 08:50

Or he's incredibly immature and lacks responsibility so no women his age would go there!

Also worth doing a claires law to check him out. He may go for young girls as they are easier to coerce

Edited

A 22 year old is not a young girl. She is a woman.

SilverPink · 08/06/2026 10:43

Gladystheimpaler · 08/06/2026 10:35

OP I think you've taken tbe wrong lesson here. It's not to have an armoury of tools to talk her out of it later. It's to recognise she is an adult with an adult sex life, and perhaps you don't need to hear about it all the time. You are too involved in your adult daughter's affairs! With this young man you seem happy you've been able to run social background checks on him. Leave it now! She could go travelling one year and fall in love with a stranger. You can have an opinion, but it's not your job to steer her any which way.

Was just going to say similar.
I think the fact you’ve never dated and don’t ’understand’ dating is skewing your view a little. It’s perfectly normal to date or sleep with several different people in your teens and 20s. Some of those might be nice guys and some might not, whether you’ve met them online or in person. It’s all a learning curve and gives you a real idea of what kind of person you want to spend your life with. Your job as mum is to listen, give advice if she asks, and be noncommittal and non judgmental. She has to figure things out for herself even if she gets hurt in the process.

Gladystheimpaler · 08/06/2026 10:35

Frequency · 08/06/2026 10:18

There has been a positive update from DD. The other young man she's been messaging with/meeting up with asked her on Saturday if she would consider deleting dating apps and agree to only chat/meet up with each other, and she agreed, so the date tonight has been cancelled, thank God. This lad is local, closer in age, and they have a few friends in common, so we know he is not married with three kids at home.

I met her dad when I was 19 and was living with him, with a baby and a mortgage by 21, so I never dated. I don't understand dating. Apparently, this does not mean they are a couple; it means they are considering becoming a couple Confused. But I am happy tonight's date is now off the cards.

There was some good advice on this thread regarding drink spiking/did he have her music preferences on his profile or did he agree with hers when she told him, etc., so I'll keep all of that in mind in case it doesn't work out with this guy and we end up back here in a couple of months.

OP I think you've taken tbe wrong lesson here. It's not to have an armoury of tools to talk her out of it later. It's to recognise she is an adult with an adult sex life, and perhaps you don't need to hear about it all the time. You are too involved in your adult daughter's affairs! With this young man you seem happy you've been able to run social background checks on him. Leave it now! She could go travelling one year and fall in love with a stranger. You can have an opinion, but it's not your job to steer her any which way.

TheIceBear · 08/06/2026 10:30

Jesus I can’t believe she told him she was on her period wtf sorry but that’s a bit grim announcing you aren’t available for sex without even going on a date with the person. I’m nearly 40 myself and defo think a 40 year old man would be delighted to bed a 22 year old and obviously isn’t just into it cos they “like the same music “ or any of that bullshit. I’d have no interest in a 22 year old myself. But some young women are into older men as well. Friends of mine slept with much older men at that age . They had experience and money plus they liked the attention I guess . She’s an adult and can do what she likes .

Theresalittlebitofwitchinyou · 08/06/2026 10:29

Met DH when I was 22 got together at 24 and he was 42, married at 27. Been married almost 17 years

Frequency · 08/06/2026 10:18

There has been a positive update from DD. The other young man she's been messaging with/meeting up with asked her on Saturday if she would consider deleting dating apps and agree to only chat/meet up with each other, and she agreed, so the date tonight has been cancelled, thank God. This lad is local, closer in age, and they have a few friends in common, so we know he is not married with three kids at home.

I met her dad when I was 19 and was living with him, with a baby and a mortgage by 21, so I never dated. I don't understand dating. Apparently, this does not mean they are a couple; it means they are considering becoming a couple Confused. But I am happy tonight's date is now off the cards.

There was some good advice on this thread regarding drink spiking/did he have her music preferences on his profile or did he agree with hers when she told him, etc., so I'll keep all of that in mind in case it doesn't work out with this guy and we end up back here in a couple of months.

OP posts:
Twisterlollies · 08/06/2026 10:10

CommonSenseSuzy · 08/06/2026 09:38

Maybe they just enjoy the natural beauty of a young body and prefer the zest for life that a younger mind has? Experience and wisdom brings paranoia and skepticism which are a major downside to dating a woman in their 40s

I definitely think part of the outrage is that the dynamic (as well as concerns about power imbalances etc) feels unfair to middle aged women, who understandably want a man their own age but feel dismayed that they seem more attracted to women 10+ years younger. It upsets the balance as a lot of people wind up single in their 40s (age when a lot of first marriages start to implode) and it’s disheartening for them that the only men interested are at least 10 years older.

CoffeeAndCats3 · 08/06/2026 09:54

When I was 25 I dated a 51 year old. We had great sex and great fun for about 9 months. It didn't work out, but I think we both look back on it with fondness and I don't regret a minute of it.

Dersie · 08/06/2026 09:41

JuliaRobHurts · 08/06/2026 09:19

The motive could equally be he finds someone half his age more attractive, and wants a non-rushed option to have children if he doesn't already?

It's like assuming the woman that go for older men are golddiggers that want to snag an asset rich partner with the hopes and securing half of that for themselves.

Also, is it ok for a middle aged man to wait to have kids with a woman half his age like you say?

CommonSenseSuzy · 08/06/2026 09:38

whippersnapper55 · 06/06/2026 12:14

Generally I think men go for much younger women because women their own age have more experience of the world, are more confident and much less likely to take any crap from a man!

Maybe they just enjoy the natural beauty of a young body and prefer the zest for life that a younger mind has? Experience and wisdom brings paranoia and skepticism which are a major downside to dating a woman in their 40s

honeylulu · 08/06/2026 09:35

In answer to your thread title there's an obvious genuine reason why he wants to days a 22 year old - to get his hands (and willy) on some young flesh. You've identified that yourself.

She has "casual fun" on her profile and is willing to meet him and has shared details of her menstrual cycle to infer that she would/will be planning to have sex with him. He must be beside himself with excitement.

The interest expressed in dating and getting to know her ... cynically he's probably trying to make sure he gets a few repeat shags or of it because he doesn't know when he'll next have a chance with a 22 year old beauty, perhaps never.

Might want a trophy wife and a family in due course but that's really more along the same theme.

Might want to mould and control her. Not so sure about that. She sounds pretty sure of herself. So maybe, maybe not.

Probably another asset of dating someone so young is that they are unlikely to have kids, a troublesome ex husband or complicated home situation. A lot men can't be bothered with complications and just want an easy life and access to regular sex (yes that again).

Fascinated by her hobbies and personality? Well they haven't even met yet so that's unlikely. (I don't doubt that she's a lovely person but he doesn't know that yet!)

Dersie · 08/06/2026 09:29

JuliaRobHurts · 08/06/2026 09:19

The motive could equally be he finds someone half his age more attractive, and wants a non-rushed option to have children if he doesn't already?

It's like assuming the woman that go for older men are golddiggers that want to snag an asset rich partner with the hopes and securing half of that for themselves.

Yes of course a man almost twice as old as a 22 yesr old is going to find her attractive! Thst gors without saying, like a pointed out personally, a tad slimy for me.
Get a grip.

duckfordinner · 08/06/2026 09:26

Your DD got poor boundaries. He knows that. There was no need to tell him that she was on her period. Why is this relevant? He is a predator and grooming your DD.

SpaceRaccoon · 08/06/2026 09:22

She's 21+. Once people are, I don't really care what the age gap is, they're both adults making the choices they're entitled to.

JuliaRobHurts · 08/06/2026 09:19

Dersie · 08/06/2026 09:11

Again ill point out that if a man has set his dating site age perameter for half his own age or less, there is usually a motive, for example, if a woman is half a mans age and the man is 40, the young woman in question would be a hell of alot easier to manipulate and control than a woman of the mans own age not due to the woman being stupid as someone else kindly pointed out, but due to the fact that most females lack experience with relationships at that age.Not in all cases I grant you, I am speaking from personal experience.

The motive could equally be he finds someone half his age more attractive, and wants a non-rushed option to have children if he doesn't already?

It's like assuming the woman that go for older men are golddiggers that want to snag an asset rich partner with the hopes and securing half of that for themselves.

Dersie · 08/06/2026 09:11

SleepingStandingUp · 08/06/2026 02:22

maybe my is making me sensitive but he's not old. he's 40. i think 40 is a weird age. I read a post about 42 being the age where no one has the same notes. some people are grandparents at 42, some just having their first child, some are getting engaged, some divorced, some spend weekends sleep deprived at soft play, some sleep deprived in Ibiza.

Again ill point out that if a man has set his dating site age perameter for half his own age or less, there is usually a motive, for example, if a woman is half a mans age and the man is 40, the young woman in question would be a hell of alot easier to manipulate and control than a woman of the mans own age not due to the woman being stupid as someone else kindly pointed out, but due to the fact that most females lack experience with relationships at that age.Not in all cases I grant you, I am speaking from personal experience.

Matsukaze · 08/06/2026 09:09

How does she know for a fact that he has a full time job and his own house?

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