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To think there is no genuine reason a 40-year-old man would be interested in a 22-year-old?

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Frequency · 06/06/2026 12:00

DD is online dating again and is messaging with a 40-year-old man. She is utterly convinced that he is interested in her as a person and that he is a genuine man. They like the same music, attend the same concerts, play the same games, and follow the same anime series.

I believe there are only 2 reasons a man this age would be interested in a 22-year-old.

  1. He wants the kudos of bedding a woman in their 20s.

  2. There is something wrong with him, and women his own age are too old and wise to tolerate his bullshit, so he needs to target women too young to know better.

For context, I am 44, and the idea of dating one of DD's mates is horrifying. I like them well enough. I'll happily sit and have a drink with them or a night out with them, but some of the things they say and do are childish and irritating, and I'd sooner gouge out my eyeballs with a rusty spork than be in a committed relationship with one of them.

According to DD, he works full-time and owns his own home, so he is not a basement-dwelling incel.

He wants to take her out for dinner on Monday. She's told him she's on her period, and he says that's fine, they're only going for dinner, and he doesn't want sex with her on their first date. He wants to get to know her. I don't believe him, but it's convinced DD even more that he is genuine.

OP posts:
Doseofreality · 06/06/2026 13:26

Equally as valid are the reasons why a 22 year old woman is interested in a 40 year old man.,

LlynTegid · 06/06/2026 13:26

I am inclined to number 2 of the OPs reasons, lack of forming relationships with someone similar to his own age, for whatever reason.

NoisyHiker · 06/06/2026 13:26

Weekmindedfool · 06/06/2026 13:10

Genuine reason? You mean like sexual attraction isn’t a genuine reason? Whether two people are the same age or have 20 years between them sexual attraction is the first and foremost reason people get together. If OPs dd was seeing a 24yo do you not think they would be doing it 3 times a day? Whether MN society likes it or not it’s basic biology for a man to be attracted to a women, especially a younger one, as she is healthier and most fertile. Honestly, MN is full of threads of women whose relationship tanked because they stopped having sex. Its
nice to have shared interests and commonalities but it almost always comes
down to sex. Just because you don’t like the idea of an older man having sex with your adult daughter, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s wrong. The fact it happens (consensually) every day all around the world shows this. A huge amount of this thread is women either projecting because they have been left for a younger women or mothers who need to accept that their children are adults and capable of making their own choices. You’ve said yourself she’s looking for sex not commitment. Maybe she’s using him?

Edited

But it is not usual for the 'biologically healthy' young girl (bleurgh) to be even remotely interested in someone who, lets face it, is far past their prime. When they came on to us in bars/clubs to my group of friends the reactions ranged from raucous laughter to revulsion.

By their 40's men are well edging past their sexual and reproductive prime. If you want to look at it from a 'biology' standpoint, younger men are far fitter and their sperm quality is better. Young women can get their own money now, so I'm afriad unless you are sexy AND richer than the moon you are shit out of luck. Unless the girl is vulnerable in some way, it's not happening.

And any decent, put together men will be long into their marriages with devoted wives who adore them and children by that age.

The only people I ever see spouting this crap are washed up older men, pathetically chasing after women they couldn't even have gotten when they were 20, because they hope they are too young and naive to see what an old fool they are.

likelysuspect · 06/06/2026 13:24

Frequency · 06/06/2026 12:33

She's not diagnosed with SEN. I'm not worried about her being pressured into sex she isn't comfortable with; she's capable of asserting herself in that way

She is looking for sex rather than commitment, as far as I can tell, although she's not said that outright to me (but who would admit that to their mum?). As her mum, I hate this, but she is a consenting adult, and she is able to give informed consent. She seems to be after a friends-with-benefits type arrangement.

What?

What is the point of this whole thread then?

SqueakyFromme · 06/06/2026 13:24

SplendidUtterly · 06/06/2026 12:15

Why on earth did she feel the need to tell him she was on her period?

💯% i think it shows that she is immature, I would be worried like OP too.

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 06/06/2026 13:20

mjhx · 06/06/2026 12:42

I was with someone who was 27 and I was 17.
You are absolutely correct in my experience.
Although not the same age gap I wouldn't allow this with my daughter 😩

You wouldn't "allow" your grown adult 22 year old to go out with someone?!
Yeah, good luck with that 😁

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 06/06/2026 13:18

Frequency · 06/06/2026 12:33

She's not diagnosed with SEN. I'm not worried about her being pressured into sex she isn't comfortable with; she's capable of asserting herself in that way

She is looking for sex rather than commitment, as far as I can tell, although she's not said that outright to me (but who would admit that to their mum?). As her mum, I hate this, but she is a consenting adult, and she is able to give informed consent. She seems to be after a friends-with-benefits type arrangement.

She is looking for sex rather than commitment

She seems to be after a friends-with-benefits type arrangement

She's an adult. So's he. If that's what they both want, what's the problem?
Age is irrelevant here if neither of them are even wanting anything committed.

NoisyHiker · 06/06/2026 13:16

Is dd's dad distant/not around much?

The only girls I knew who would have even entertained the thought of such an old man (40 seemed near enough pension age when I was in my early 20's) were those with absent or useless fathers.

Dotheseasideshuffle · 06/06/2026 13:14

I was 25 when I started seeing a 42yo…he made out he had his shit together.

Number 2 of your summary sums him up, no one his own age would put up with his man child, controlling behaviour.

We are now getting divorced.

SUperchange · 06/06/2026 13:14

Who talks about periods out loud? It's a bit wrong side of the tracks!
Did she start sex at an early age?

OtterlyAstounding · 06/06/2026 13:11

I'm so sorry, @Focusingonmybreathing Flowers

Weekmindedfool · 06/06/2026 13:10

Genuine reason? You mean like sexual attraction isn’t a genuine reason? Whether two people are the same age or have 20 years between them sexual attraction is the first and foremost reason people get together. If OPs dd was seeing a 24yo do you not think they would be doing it 3 times a day? Whether MN society likes it or not it’s basic biology for a man to be attracted to a women, especially a younger one, as she is healthier and most fertile. Honestly, MN is full of threads of women whose relationship tanked because they stopped having sex. Its
nice to have shared interests and commonalities but it almost always comes
down to sex. Just because you don’t like the idea of an older man having sex with your adult daughter, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s wrong. The fact it happens (consensually) every day all around the world shows this. A huge amount of this thread is women either projecting because they have been left for a younger women or mothers who need to accept that their children are adults and capable of making their own choices. You’ve said yourself she’s looking for sex not commitment. Maybe she’s using him?

likelysuspect · 06/06/2026 13:10

titchy · 06/06/2026 12:26

She’s just told him that if he waits a week till her period’s finished she’ll have sex with him. 🤦‍♀️

Exactly, its a ridiculous thing to say, it implies that its not on for this date, but once Ive finished its on.

It shouldnt even be discussed at all.

Rentobrill · 06/06/2026 13:09

Surely the obvious reason is a genuine one- he fancies 22yos. It doesn't have to be anything to do with kudos or those being the only women who don't see through him. He's a creep but a genuine creep.

Focusingonmybreathing · 06/06/2026 13:07

I was naive 19 year old when I went on a first date with a 26 year old man I met on a dating app (well in those days it was a lonely hearts page in the local newspaper).
He raped me while I cried and begged him to stop. I was genuinely on my period but that didn't stop him. He just grabbed my pad and threw it across the room.

Okiedokie123 · 06/06/2026 13:06

QuintadosMalvados · 06/06/2026 12:20

Yabu.
She's a fully grown adult.
Men generally tend to like younger women. It is what it is. Whether this is right or wrong is not relevant.

You need to get over it.

So you’d be fine if this was your daughter in this scenario?

likelysuspect · 06/06/2026 13:06

Firesidechatter · 06/06/2026 12:17

Why are you focusing on him when in response to a dinner invite your daughter says she’s having her period. On what planet is that a response which shows interest in a person, to a dinner invite.

So it seems it’s her thay wishes sex, she’s put it on the agenda, not him, and as a grown woman that’s none of your business and entirely hee decision.

Exactly this, the mother daughter boundaries are all over the place anyway, OP going on 'nights outs' with her daughters friends and having discussions about graphic matters with her daughter

No wonder the daughter is an oversharer without any understanding of appropriate peers/boundaries/behaviour.

WonderingWanda · 06/06/2026 13:03

If I was being charitable, he could be after a more casual relationship rather than someone his own age who might be wanting to settle down / marry / have kids. That alone is a bit of a red flag if she wants a serious relationship. There will be plenty of men her own age who are only after sex as well. She just needs to be confident enough to stick with what she is comfortable with. Her comment about her period prior to a first date suggests either she is only interested in sex or lacks the confidence to not be pushed into it.

youalright · 06/06/2026 13:03

Im nearly 40 and I wouldn't look twice at a 22 year old thats gross

CurdinHenry · 06/06/2026 13:02

Men find younger women attractive. I don't really get why you are surprised by this. It's depressing on a number of levels and I wouldn't want my daughter ending up married to a guy who retires while she's in her forties but it's also completely normal.

BertieBotts · 06/06/2026 13:00

She's 22 and probably should make her own judgement - but the fact she's already made an excuse to explain why she won't have sex is a bit worrying to me as it suggests she may feel some pressure for sex.

I think try to keep an open dialogue rather than being overly biased against, and encourage her to stay reflective. It makes absolute sense to me as an older adult to be cautious but a 22 year old doesn't necessarily have that experience.

Working FT and owning his own place, well first of all people can say whatever they want on the internet so this might not even be true, but second of all it doesn't at all mean he can't be an incel type. It's fairly easy for a socially withdrawn single adult at the age of 40 to have built up enough income/savings to buy a house.

If you're 44 and she's 22 you had her at about her age. I also had my first child young and the relationship that happened in wasn't a healthy one at all. Is it possible you are worried she is repeating patterns that harmed you?

Meeting him in public, and letting other people (e.g. you, her friends) know of the plans is sensible. See how she feels after the date.

You say she's looking for more of a FWB situation - has she done this before? I don't think this is necessarily a problem, and it might also make the age gap less relevant. If they are both open that they are intending to meet for sex rather than a serious relationship, then it does make it less unlikely that he is stringing her along. Maybe he does just want sex as well? Most 40 year old blokes probably wouldn't turn down sex with a 22yo woman if they were single and interested.

If she was a friend of mine I would recommend one of Natalie Lue's books or her podcast. They are good groundings in how to recognise hallmarks of a healthy vs unhealthy relationship. I liked her blog a lot when I was 22.

You (or she) could also consider making a Sarah's Law application, though I think it would be massively overstepping to do that before the first date. Wait and see what she thinks. She might totally go off him in person anyway. I have not personally done online dating, but people I know who do say it's imperative to meet the person IRL ASAP, because if you spend too long chatting online, you can build up a relationship with essentially a different version of the person because half of them is what you're imagining in your head.

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · 06/06/2026 13:00

“He wants to take her out for dinner on Monday. She's told him she's on her period”

WTF! She sounds incredibly naive and she needs to know that it’s up to her when she sleeps with someone, regardless of a man’s expectations.

On the original point- Yanbu, I’d definitely be unhappy.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 06/06/2026 12:59

Frequency · 06/06/2026 12:33

She's not diagnosed with SEN. I'm not worried about her being pressured into sex she isn't comfortable with; she's capable of asserting herself in that way

She is looking for sex rather than commitment, as far as I can tell, although she's not said that outright to me (but who would admit that to their mum?). As her mum, I hate this, but she is a consenting adult, and she is able to give informed consent. She seems to be after a friends-with-benefits type arrangement.

I think ages gap relationships are all kinds of wrong, but do be honest I don't think the same about a one night stands or friends with benefits situation.

A relationship with that much of an age gap is bad because of the power dynamics. The older person in the relationship is always going to have more power, more experience, more money etc. On top of that they're going to be at completely different stages in life.

That doesn't really matter with a friend's with benefits situation. So you're at different life stages, who cares, it's not like you're going to be living together or married or having kids. And the power dynamics just isn't there when you're both just using each other to have a fun evening and some sex every couple of weeks.

Frequency · 06/06/2026 12:55

TheKittenswithMittens · 06/06/2026 12:51

These acronyms. I thought BF was a boyfriend. So I am thinking she already has a boyfriend. So what does he make of it? Then I read on and thought but he has a boyfriend as well.

BF = bestfriend.

DD is single.

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simpsonthecat · 06/06/2026 12:55

My god, she tells a bloke nearly double her age she has never met that she is on her period when they meet?
Is this honestly what is happening?
I would be very concerned if I were you.