To think people on benefits can’t win

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about doing these sorts of roles. I worked in Boots on a Saturday, then went onto to bar work.

What do you want to do for work?

Why did you get fired during a trial?

@thatsgotit ..spot on post.and certainly resonates with my 2...unfortunately.

Where?
Because my 19 yesr old is desperate for one and applying for everything at the moment .

They develop a bad back and switch to sickness benefits.

Exactly. I've just finished a job working in benefits advice for over 50's and many hadn't worked for years if ever.

What jobs can they do?
I know someone who has been declared 'fit for work' He is in his 50s and last worked in his 20s. What can he do?

Agree they need more help to get back to work.

what employer will take him on?
The job centre pushed him into care work. He ended up ill and is now in hospital. He has schizophrenia

I had two parents in care homes. Of course it’s not highly paid, it can be gruelling. I saw all of that. So what are these people who are desperate to work doing about ensuring that they can get a different type of role if care work, bar work is not their choice?

That clearly shouldn't have happened and he clearly has a valid reason to not be working but there are very many who have no valid reason to have been out of work for years.

What jobs can they do?
I know someone who has been declared 'fit for work' He is in his 50s and last worked in his 20s. What can he do?

Agree. The problem is that the DWP’s idea of fit for work is fit for any work, regardless of whether or not it’s available and viable.

Lucrative? DLA?

DH earns fuck all - about 5-6k a year, self employed working stupid hours (sometimes he finishes at 2 or 3am) around the needs of our autistic DS.

We get £428 a month DLA, CA is about £350 a month. So less than £800 a month. The DLA is largely ringfenced for DS needs.

We are considerably worse off than when DH was able to work full time - and we've weren't well off then. DH also has considerably less down time and is getting burnt out, we're both chronically stressed and sleep deprived (imagine 13 years of the lack of sleep of the new born stage). But yes, we're raking it in and having a fantastic time.

The level of understanding of what disability benefits are intended for, how hard they are to secure, and why they are needed is abysmal. But that’s nothing new for MN. The general consensus seems to be that if you’re on DLA or PIP you’re coining it in. No thought to the fact that severe disability brings extra costs and that disability benefits are intended as a contribution to those costs. And don’t get me started on carers allowance. £86 per week on the understanding that you provide at least 35 hours of care per week - that’s around £2.30 an hour. It’s also deducted from UC in full and replaced with carers premium which is worth around half. It’s also subject to a cliff edge earnings limit of under £200 per week. That’s how much successive governments value unpaid carers, who, if truth be told, save the tax payer a fortune.

There are jobs.

Just people are too fussy a lot of times.

Also sometimes you're better off in benefits. My sister wants to work, but what's the point, because now she has hugely reduced rent, council tax, gets free dentist etc the kind of work she could realistically do, means she'd be earning around minimum wage.

Like my friend, he got fired from his job, has no money and absolutely refuses to even consider retail, hospitality, factory work or any "menial" roles.

Where as my nephew who is 21 finished his temp contract, applied for everything and was in a job within 2 weeks, working at Nero, whilst he finds a "proper" job.

Yesterday I snapped at screamed at my daughter in frustration.
Because of her needs she can't cope without a 1:1 in school. So she can't do before or after school clubs. So I have to be there. She can't cope on her own. She wakes at night.
So I'm limited in the jobs I can do and I'm on benefits. And I don't want to be. And I'm really frightened of Reform getting in and losing that money because I don't know how I'll cope. And all I want to do is have a ft proper job. And I lost it with her cos I'm stressed.
So yanbu.

There are jobs.

Just people are too fussy a lot of times.

Also sometimes you're better off in benefits. My sister wants to work, but what's the point, because now she has hugely reduced rent, council tax, gets free dentist etc the kind of work she could realistically do, means she'd be earning around minimum wage.

Like my friend, he got fired from his job, has no money and absolutely refuses to even consider retail, hospitality, factory work or any "menial" roles.

Where as my nephew who is 21 finished his temp contract, applied for everything and was in a job within 2 weeks, working at Nero, whilst he finds a "proper" job.

There are jobs .
I am a graduate and post grad as well as professional qualification holder.
Currently I clean . And pet sit .
it just about works.
Hate the cleaning- however, there is a market for it . It means a job . End of .

There are jobs.

Just people are too fussy a lot of times.

Also sometimes you're better off in benefits. My sister wants to work, but what's the point, because now she has hugely reduced rent, council tax, gets free dentist etc the kind of work she could realistically do, means she'd be earning around minimum wage.

Like my friend, he got fired from his job, has no money and absolutely refuses to even consider retail, hospitality, factory work or any "menial" roles.

Where as my nephew who is 21 finished his temp contract, applied for everything and was in a job within 2 weeks, working at Nero, whilst he finds a "proper" job.