The Left have a become a snivelling self-righteous mob, busy bodying around, trying to shame others

I thought you started the comedian thing.

Strangely I’ve been left leaning all my adult life and I’m not remotely tempted by Reform. If you don’t think this government cares about ordinary people perhaps you missed the renters act - which has enraged landlords - and the new employee protections - which have angered employers.

What more do you want?

Op thinks she’s still in a playground in 1976. If those were your halcyon days op, that would make you in your 60s or close to. Time to grow up…

You'd have a good career in comedy
Seriously, if you want to present an argument then try not to mimic the behaviour of the people you're criticising
You probably ought to cut back on that coffee
Enjoy your Fake outrage

What I hate about these arguments is that people like the OP genuinely believe you believe in things for their performative value, hence why they it's described by them as a way to look "cool". They are either judging everyone by their own standards or are seriously misunderstanding that some of us actually do 'think' about things, there isn't a separation of intellect and emotion, it is about being aware of the interconnectedness of things. IMO thinking like this is literally the opposite of Populism which Reform are capitalising on.

OP clearly set out to prove her silly quote right by baiting left leaning posters. As soon as anyone said anything remotely less than 'nice' she thought it was her big gotcha.
What the OP doesn't seem to have grasped is that if you are left leaning it's because you believe in certain values, principles and models for society, and no amount of name calling, belittling or stereotyping is going to suddenly result in a change of heart.
If people want to call expressions of concern about the lives of disadvantaged people 'snivelling' and putting forward counter arguments to racist rhetoric 'busybodying', wanting greater wealth equality 'jealousy', then they can crack on.
Its not changed my position even an inch. I don't hold my opinions to be 'cool'. I'm not a teenager. I hold them because I find the arguments in favour more compelling than those against.
And if those who feel differently want to change that, they need to seriously up their game and give me rationale, evidence and make an articulate case. Because the playground stuff is water off a ducks back.

It is actually one of the most frustrating things ever. All I wanted was for a reform voter to tell me why they voted for reform. It really should be quite a simple answer, and should be easy to answer in a non-aggressive way.

I find that the abuse and hatred towards the left is complete and utter projection. Like I have said before you get arseholes on either end of the spectrum, but I am yet to meet a far right supporter who is able and willing to have a calm conversation with me about their views. I have had many discussions with people on the left without it resorting to childish arguing. This tells me that the right must be ashamed of their views, otherwise they wouldn't need to resort to a violent or aggressive communication style to distract from answering difficult questions.

My post was a long one, it was my own opinion, and it got jumped on by someone who replied in a very aggressive and confrontational manor, picking out the part that suited their rhetoric and ignoring 99% of what was said.

I completely agree with what you've said here:

Then the OP wrote the words 'Where have I insulted left wingers?', having started a thread titled 'the left have become a snivelling, self-righteous mob'.

Then updating it to add "busy bodying around, trying to shame others" 😶

Also - OPs answers to anyone who doesn't agree with her views have been rude, condescending and derogatory.. you don't need to outright call someone a "see you next Tuesday" for it to be insulting, insults can be very nuanced, and OP doesn't seem to realise that their passive aggression is palpable in their replies.

LOL blaming Miliband for Brexit made me chuckle a little bit!

Yes I have started to realise that no such thing as a sensible discussion or debate seems to exist with people with opposing views any more, which is a massive shame as it only adds to the divide and the hatred.

Indeed - how would it go down if those of us to the left of Goebbels posted a thread title saying Right wingers are a load of Greggs pasty eating thickos or Telegraph reading rich qNazis desperate to keep hiding their cash overseas - this idea we are all out to ‘get them’ too - there are plenty of people well to the left who are extremely working class too but don’t go for the woke stuff at all . Lumping everyone a bit left leaning in as a vegan, woke, ban the car, obsessed about trans kind of left wing really isn’t the full picture, just as my cliche above isn’t a full picture of the right wing voter.

My experience too, though I gave up trying to be sensible when the OP suggested Brexit was Ed Miliband's fault.

Then the OP wrote the words 'Where have I insulted left wingers?', having started a thread titled 'the left have become a snivelling, self-righteous mob'.

No sensible discussion to be had here, I'm afraid, pal.

Your maths is wrong there. Kind of proves my point though. Nobody needs billions.

I am a comedian even though you've jumped on a tiny part of my post and picked it apart agressively.

I assume it's a distraction from my other points as you clearly do not know how to answer my questions.

I give up now. I wanted a genuine discussion from someone who's views differ from mine. No disrespect, but understanding.

But all thats happening is people being rude, throwing insults and being disrespectful.

No wonder our country is fucked, we're all fighting like children.

Only people who haven't observed the Left ( or watched the Life of Brian, or knew anything about 20th century European history) would think they were one homogeneous blob! They have been caught up in a purity spiral for so long that it's easier to call everyone from the Socialist rump of Labour to the furthest Left ' The Left' than to identify the million different types of ' Hard Left' splinter groups formed because they disagreed on one point. The ridiculousness of Jeremy Corbyn being called a right wing agent of Israel, and there being 2 Communist Parties of GB because they couldn't agree on what the right type of communist was, yet still think they would be able to live communally, bartering ' from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs' makes them one homogeneous block of narcissism, as you say. Which is why they can't fix it.

Oh you haven't even heard me shout yet, love.

Still got no answer to any of my factual points above? Specifically about Reform's stance on equal rights, which was a reply to one of your posts? No? Didn't think so.

Enjoy being a simp for the billionaires and fascists.

Well, your thread title might be a good starting point...

@gannett
As someone who's been involved in the left for decades (the actual hard left, none of your centrist Labour party shite) and been eternally frustrated by the divisions and general narcissism of small differences that prevents anything being accomplished

Could you give some examples of what you would like to be accomplished?

As someone who's been involved in the left for decades (the actual hard left, none of your centrist Labour party shite) and been eternally frustrated by the divisions and general narcissism of small differences that prevents anything being accomplished, the most wild thing about this thread is the apparently there are people who think of "the left" as one homogeneous block working in sync. If only!!!

A billion is 1000 times larger than a million!