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The Left have a become a snivelling self-righteous mob, busy bodying around, trying to shame others

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Northermcharn · 09/05/2026 18:17

I read this quote and it encapsulates exactly how I feel

'I never thought I'd see the day when the Right became the cool ones giving the finger to the establishment, and the Left became the snivelling self-righteous ones going around shaming everybody'

AIBU to think this is what many people think these days? We didn't leave the left, the left left us.

*the quote is from John Lydon aka Johnny Rotten. He's deliberately provocative in lots of ways, but he meant this one. I fully expect some people to come on the thread to tell us all how he's a horror and said he likes Donald Trump. That would be them missing the point.. but.. Let Them..

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InstantlyBella · 12/05/2026 14:56

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 14:50

Yes I do. I think voting history should be available for everyone. That way when I hire a nanny, I can be assured of the fact that I am not going to have someone who teaches my children racist things.

@InstantlyBella When you hire a nanny, eh? Obviously all this work you do helping refugees at Calais and other disadvantaged people must be very well paid as nannies cost a lot these days.
Or are you a trustafarian?

Coming from a wealthy background doesn't automatically mean you don't live to help other people in need you know. I understand my privilege and I work so hard each and every day to make life better for the folks out there who didn't have access to the resources that I did. I do my bit. Can you say the same?

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 14:50

Yes I do. I think voting history should be available for everyone. That way when I hire a nanny, I can be assured of the fact that I am not going to have someone who teaches my children racist things.

@InstantlyBella When you hire a nanny, eh? Obviously all this work you do helping refugees at Calais and other disadvantaged people must be very well paid as nannies cost a lot these days.
Or are you a trustafarian?

Northermcharn · 12/05/2026 14:29

AStonedRose · 12/05/2026 13:14

tbh she’d make me want to fuck off back to Syria

No need to 'smash the gangs', just get bella on the case..

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38thparallel · 12/05/2026 14:08

Papyrophile · 12/05/2026 13:05

Bella has flounced off to post on another thread where, would you believe, she/he/they is spouting equally infantile posts in favour of Zac Polanski?

Which thread? I’m enjoying her posts.

AStonedRose · 12/05/2026 13:14

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 12/05/2026 13:06

Surely Bella was messing about. Otherwise poor people who have to put up with such a sanctimonious person IRL! Havent the asylum seekers living in tents in Calais suffered enough?

tbh she’d make me want to fuck off back to Syria

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 12/05/2026 13:06

MaturingCheeseball · 12/05/2026 12:14

I think this poster is messing about. The “underdog” thing went too far. Although I recall a poster a while ago getting quite riled up when someone said “there was no room to swing a cat” and accusing them of animal cruelty…

Surely Bella was messing about. Otherwise poor people who have to put up with such a sanctimonious person IRL! Havent the asylum seekers living in tents in Calais suffered enough?

Papyrophile · 12/05/2026 13:05

Bella has flounced off to post on another thread where, would you believe, she/he/they is spouting equally infantile posts in favour of Zac Polanski?

MaturingCheeseball · 12/05/2026 12:14

I think this poster is messing about. The “underdog” thing went too far. Although I recall a poster a while ago getting quite riled up when someone said “there was no room to swing a cat” and accusing them of animal cruelty…

BlakeCarrington · 12/05/2026 10:48

InstantlyBella · 12/05/2026 08:56

I'm sorry? Are you referring to marganilsed people as 'dogs'? Is this actually serious?

You’re joking right? Far beneath you to understand very common colloquialisms. Bit too white working class for you - it’s ok, you can safely ignore them as you previously stated.

Dragonscaledaisy · 12/05/2026 10:45

GiaGia16 · 12/05/2026 09:56

Probably second year in uni studying Political Science

And currently on track for a third class degree.

SUperchange · 12/05/2026 10:22

As an aside to the main topic here, N Farage was a commodities trader, a fairly new type of entrant. The old style stock Brokers thought all these traders were 'down market' 'not one of us'.

Crikeyalmighty · 12/05/2026 10:12

i think Bella needs to grow up - I’m a centre left voter and this is the kind of uncritical thinking often by very young inexperienced in life people that ends up with people voting Reform and making fun of anyone with a social conscience. The fact is neither the public nor the government can solve all the worlds issues , which are multi faceted, single handed. It takes long term strategy, defence capability and a working together approach to even touch the sides of the issues. It is not solved over a bit of a march, flag waving and a cup of tea and a biscuit saying ‘stop doing this you nasty man’ - it also takes an understanding that not all people are poor because they have had no chances in life, plenty are happy to get by making little effort ( and that applies to all kinds of people , including a good number of trust fund kids/trustafarians) not all comfortably off people are well off because they’ve been fleecing everyone else, lots have worked their knackers off for years building up careers and businesses. Life isn’t black and white- that’s why the naivety of many on the far left irritates me - making rich people poorer will not necessarily make poor people richer . It just takes their tax and spending with them if they leave ( however I very much do believe that making sure they aren’t using every trick in the book not to pay is crucial) for the same reason I get really annoyed by the use of the expression working people and I wish Labour and Reform stopped using it.,What does this even mean?? are you not working people then if a teacher or a nurse or a social worker or scientist? Plenty of these jobs aren’t that well paid, especially early career- it kind of implies you aren’t working people unless you get your hands dirty or a shop worker or van driver etc - plenty of trades actually are very well paid, more than the nurse or teacher. have you ever lived abroad Bella? Some of the places you probably feel sorry for are countries where they are more than happy to go around screwing their own population - go to Zurich- the airport is full of African and South American and far east very well dressed despots with their wives with bags and bags of luxury goods. Have a social conscience by all means ( I do) but stop thinking of the world in black and white- it isn’t -

GiaGia16 · 12/05/2026 09:56

Papyrophile · 12/05/2026 09:38

If you consider everything in British history a personal affront to your empathy with the world's downtrodden, without consideration for milestones like Magna Carta, habeus corpus, the English (and Scottish) common and civil legal codes, some decent architecture, lots of science and technology that have helped lift most labour out of grinding agricultural poverty and regular famine, to say nothing of magnificent music, great literature and other canons of art... in short civilisation... all I can offer is my deep sympathy @InstantlyBella .

I hope you are very young and can access a few more years in education.

Probably second year in uni studying Political Science

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 09:53

InstantlyBella · 12/05/2026 07:18

People would still be able to vote for whatever party they feel represents them and their interests best, for me that is what a democracy is about.

But given how important politics is in today's space, and how damaging voting for the wrong party can be for certain folks, it is high time that people are made to stand by the candidates that they choose to back. I don't want to feel like I don't know who is voting for who anymore, it's giving me too much anxiety.

I don’t think you’ve answered my question, which was whether it would call into question our democratic rights. I think it would. Do you not agree?

AStonedRose · 12/05/2026 09:50

Northermcharn · 12/05/2026 09:48

True, I do usually think that way. I think the incoherence of the underdog response made me think not a genuine poster.

I’ve my suspicions too

as a work of satire, I think it fails on multiple levels

Northermcharn · 12/05/2026 09:48

Papyrophile · 12/05/2026 09:44

I rather hope MNHQ don't delete Bella. Leave her posts to stand as evidence of folly and uncritical thought.

True, I do usually think that way. I think the incoherence of the underdog response made me think not a genuine poster.

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Papyrophile · 12/05/2026 09:44

I rather hope MNHQ don't delete Bella. Leave her posts to stand as evidence of folly and uncritical thought.

Papyrophile · 12/05/2026 09:38

If you consider everything in British history a personal affront to your empathy with the world's downtrodden, without consideration for milestones like Magna Carta, habeus corpus, the English (and Scottish) common and civil legal codes, some decent architecture, lots of science and technology that have helped lift most labour out of grinding agricultural poverty and regular famine, to say nothing of magnificent music, great literature and other canons of art... in short civilisation... all I can offer is my deep sympathy @InstantlyBella .

I hope you are very young and can access a few more years in education.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 12/05/2026 09:28

KatiePricesKnickers · 12/05/2026 09:14

@InstantlyBella ’Care for Calais’

So you help people come to this country that you so despise?
Sounds like the UK isn’t all that bad if you are helping people escape the horrors of France?

Indeed.

Isn't it rather cruel @InstantlyBella to help people come to the UK, which is by your own words a horrible place to live. Maybe, if you were kinder, you'd help them to go somewhere nicer. 🤔

InstantlyBella · 12/05/2026 09:25

@Northermcharn can you please explain why you reported me? I just want to know what you think I did to deserve having any of my posts removed. I will even leave your thread when you give me an answer. My head is spinning right now, so please just help me understand.

GiaGia16 · 12/05/2026 09:15

KatiePricesKnickers · 12/05/2026 09:14

@InstantlyBella ’Care for Calais’

So you help people come to this country that you so despise?
Sounds like the UK isn’t all that bad if you are helping people escape the horrors of France?

Touché.

5128gap · 12/05/2026 09:14

Northermcharn · 12/05/2026 08:44

Ah I see, you're not accepting the changing society. We're not in 1948 anymore. You're not alone, as the labour party is demonstrating.

No one said it was easy.

'Labour isnt listening to the working class" has just become an emotive soundbite to encourage people to see Labour as betraying their traditional voting pool'

I would have thought the recent local election results, and the associated causal factors of those results might change that view. Ah well.

I'm sure you liked the look of those first two sentences as you typed them. Frame me as a dinosaur who isn't as astute as you. However they make no sense at all in response to anything I actually said.
Of course society is changing. And as part of that traditional social classifications have become blurred. Which is why statements that Labour aren't listening to the Working Class don't stand scrutiny, and allow you to invent your own definition to ensure it includes those who agree with you and excludes those who don't.
I'll say it again. If you personally don't like Labour then have the courage of your own convictions. No need to hide behind 'the working class'.

KatiePricesKnickers · 12/05/2026 09:14

@InstantlyBella ’Care for Calais’

So you help people come to this country that you so despise?
Sounds like the UK isn’t all that bad if you are helping people escape the horrors of France?

HeyHoHenryHippy · 12/05/2026 09:13

InstantlyBella · 12/05/2026 08:48

No there is nothing about the 'UK' that I like. The horrific things the people of this country have done to folks around the world keeps me up at night more than I'd like. I know it might sound silly or extreme to some, but I am a deeply empathic person and I cannot stomach injustice of any sort. I will always be on the side of the people who are unable to defend themselves.

🤣

We aren't one homogeneous group of exactly the same people. What 'horrific ' things have 'we' done to people around the world? Is this more of your white colonial historical stuff? You do realise surely that the people who colonised countries from Britain hundreds of years ago are dead. I and others are not responsible for what happened before we were even born. Are you not aware of the history of other countries 🤔

You hate the UK. Why don't you find somewhere nicer to live? Are you aware that people who suffer injustice may also live in countries that have caused injustice to others. No country is pure and has never done anything wrong in its history!

WhatAboutSecondBreakfast86 · 12/05/2026 09:08

InstantlyBella · 12/05/2026 09:05

Why did you report me?

Talk about self gratification! Another narc disguised as a do gooder.