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To think this is rude behaviour from friends?

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LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 10:50

Sounds like a small thing but it really pissed me off!

I have two friends that I often meet up with as a group of 3. We all get on well, no one gets left out, and I like them both. Whenever we meet up for coffee, meals or drinks out, I'm always first to offer to pay for all three of us. I'd say I pay for all three of us more than a third of the time. I feel like I've also been a good friend to the other two in many ways. Both can be quite self absorbed.

On Saturday the three of us went shopping together. We went into a coffee shop to get a drink and something to eat. It was the kind of shop where you queue at the counter, choose your food and then they get it ready for you to take over to your table. I suppose how places like Costa do things too.

My friends were ahead of me in the queue. Friend 1 asked friend 2 what she wanted to eat and drink. The order was then prepared, Friend 1 paid for the two of them then they just grabbed the tray and went off together to a table over the far side of the coffee shop, out of view. There was no asking me if I wanted anything and neither said 'oh we'll just be over there LuLu'. It was as if I wasn't there.

I didn't say anything as it seemed too ridiculous in itself to say something but the more I've thought about it the more I think it was really quite rude of them and inconsiderate. I just ordered and paid for my own drink and then went and found them at their table but of course by the time I got there they were deep in conversation.

Like I said before, it seems like a small thing but it's annoyed me and just seems like they didn't consider me at all.

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LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:50

CosyAndSnug · 07/05/2026 12:43

Well done OP. Good decision to pull right back and not meet them as a three again.

Sometimes it takes incidents like these for the scales to fall from your eyes and to see a situation for what it is.

It's so liberating to take back control and decide what's right for you. You can't control their behaviour, but you can control yours. No more people-pleasing for you!

Good on you, and enjoy your other friendships away from these two.

Yes scales falling from the eyes is a good way of describing it!

I think I’ve probably made excuses for them, to myself, thinking it was because of what one of them was dealing with in her life, and the other has always been a self absorbed person out for herself anyway.

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SwatTheTwit · 07/05/2026 12:48

You need to stop offering to pay for things so often. Nothing good ever comes from it.

CosyAndSnug · 07/05/2026 12:43

Well done OP. Good decision to pull right back and not meet them as a three again.

Sometimes it takes incidents like these for the scales to fall from your eyes and to see a situation for what it is.

It's so liberating to take back control and decide what's right for you. You can't control their behaviour, but you can control yours. No more people-pleasing for you!

Good on you, and enjoy your other friendships away from these two.

SilkSilk · 07/05/2026 12:39

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:27

Yep you're right, I have done the classic people pleaser thing. I can't change the past though. I suppose I was trying to be a good friend.

Well, in future, in your other friendships, don’t lose a focus on your own needs and healthy reciprocity etc. Don’t let minor resentments build till they blow up, as here. If you feel something is off, take that feeling seriously, think about it, and act accordingly. The more you value yourself, the more others will.

swqa · 07/05/2026 12:38

ginasevern · 07/05/2026 12:28

@swqa "Yet another OP who said absolutely nothing at the time and tells Mumsnet instead."

I'm no shrinking violet but there are times when I've been too upset to say something or just so taken aback that the moment slides away. I suspect this applies to a hell of a lot of other people too. It's called being human. And if women weren't supposed to turn to Mumsnet to vent or ask for advice, then most of the forum would collapse.

No-one said they're not supposed to turn to Mumsnet for advice.

But it's no subsitute for adults actually speaking to what are after all, their actual friends.

BunnyLake · 07/05/2026 12:38

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:26

I was behind them in the queue. Standing right next to them.

That’s even worse. I thought they were several
people ahead of you, but in front? So rude.

DanaScullysLegoHair · 07/05/2026 12:37

PoppinjayPolly · 07/05/2026 11:46

can almost guarantee you that if you do tell her how annoyed you were, she will feign disbelief and offence, and you’ll probably just give her and the other woman fodder to talk about you with.

100% this.

It is really crappy for you OP, I'd feel sad and annoyed but just get on with doing other things now. It doesn't sound like you'll be missing out on much.

Edited to add that I just read your other updates. You're already stepping off, good on you 🙂

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:31

ginasevern · 07/05/2026 12:28

@swqa "Yet another OP who said absolutely nothing at the time and tells Mumsnet instead."

I'm no shrinking violet but there are times when I've been too upset to say something or just so taken aback that the moment slides away. I suspect this applies to a hell of a lot of other people too. It's called being human. And if women weren't supposed to turn to Mumsnet to vent or ask for advice, then most of the forum would collapse.

Yes, this exactly! I was a bit lost for words at the time, trying to get it straight in my mind in a kind of 'did this just happen?' kind of way. It's really not easy to just speak up and say things sometimes without appearing confrontational, and tbh for my own mental peace I often can't be arsed with confrontation as it just causes drama

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ginasevern · 07/05/2026 12:28

@swqa "Yet another OP who said absolutely nothing at the time and tells Mumsnet instead."

I'm no shrinking violet but there are times when I've been too upset to say something or just so taken aback that the moment slides away. I suspect this applies to a hell of a lot of other people too. It's called being human. And if women weren't supposed to turn to Mumsnet to vent or ask for advice, then most of the forum would collapse.

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:27

SilkSilk · 07/05/2026 12:22

This is silly, OP. You’ve done that classic people pleaser-thing and seethed in silence for years, never saying ‘That was rude’ or responding in such a way that meant there were consequences for their actions, despite saying one of these people is a close friend. And now you’ve blown up and are withdrawing from two friendships, still without actually saying anything to those involved.

Don’t get me wrong, they didn’t behave well in the instances you describe, but I think you need to take some responsibility for this, too. Why did you never say anything, and keep paying for things, giving emergency lifts, helping with house moves, when you felt the other people were exploiting you?

Yep you're right, I have done the classic people pleaser thing. I can't change the past though. I suppose I was trying to be a good friend.

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JKRgreatestfan · 07/05/2026 12:26

Has nobody typed 'two's company, three's a crowd' yet? YANBU they were very rude.

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:26

SleepingStandingUp · 07/05/2026 12:18

if you were together, how did you end up so far behind them in the queue? wondering if something happened before the coffee shop

I was behind them in the queue. Standing right next to them.

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SilkSilk · 07/05/2026 12:22

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:04

Yep they probably are. Oh well, I've got in there and ditched them now. Like I mentioned up thread, I won't be getting in contact with them, making any effort or ever meeting up as a three with them again.

Luckily I have other friends so I'll just spend time and energy with them instead.

This is silly, OP. You’ve done that classic people pleaser-thing and seethed in silence for years, never saying ‘That was rude’ or responding in such a way that meant there were consequences for their actions, despite saying one of these people is a close friend. And now you’ve blown up and are withdrawing from two friendships, still without actually saying anything to those involved.

Don’t get me wrong, they didn’t behave well in the instances you describe, but I think you need to take some responsibility for this, too. Why did you never say anything, and keep paying for things, giving emergency lifts, helping with house moves, when you felt the other people were exploiting you?

SleepingStandingUp · 07/05/2026 12:18

if you were together, how did you end up so far behind them in the queue? wondering if something happened before the coffee shop

YourOnMute · 07/05/2026 12:15

I can imagine why you didn't say anything at the time. It can be a bit of a jolt when this happens - was it really meant that way? What just happened?
And I think if you bring it up with them after they won't have done anything wrong, you are reading too much into it.
I'd start pulling back. Don't be as available.
Sorry, it's pretty shit of them.

BunnyLake · 07/05/2026 12:09

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:04

Yep they probably are. Oh well, I've got in there and ditched them now. Like I mentioned up thread, I won't be getting in contact with them, making any effort or ever meeting up as a three with them again.

Luckily I have other friends so I'll just spend time and energy with them instead.

Sounds like a good decision. They sound like users.

BunnyLake · 07/05/2026 12:06

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 11:12

I suppose I also held back from saying something as it would have cast a bit of a shadow over the trip, and maybe I intially gave them the benefit of the doubt.

I agree though, I should have said something!

They already cast a shadow over the trip. If you don't want to end the friendships I would just be more aware of their behaviour from now on and call them up on anything you consider bad mannered. Don’t be too eager to offer to pay either, see where that goes.

The car friend sounds awful. Maybe you should ditch them.

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 12:04

StephensLass1977 · 07/05/2026 12:01

Op, they are trying to ditch you. Can't you see that? They are literally acting like you aren't present, like girls used to do in primary school. They're not even using you to pay for their drinks at this point - they're literally blanking you and freezing you out.

I know you say you like them, in spite of this. I just don't understand why. You have the patience of a saint.

ETA that I've just seen the car update. I had a cousin EXACTLY like this. She'd call me to talk about herself relentlessly, then she'd make another call while still on ours and put me on hold! And a lot of other stuff. I did eventually ditch her when I almost died from blood loss a decade ago, and she didn't once call me or check in on me (her mother did but not a word from her.)

What would these women do if YOU needed a night time lift, to borrow money, etc.?

Edited

Yep they probably are. Oh well, I've got in there and ditched them now. Like I mentioned up thread, I won't be getting in contact with them, making any effort or ever meeting up as a three with them again.

Luckily I have other friends so I'll just spend time and energy with them instead.

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StephensLass1977 · 07/05/2026 12:01

Op, they are trying to ditch you. Can't you see that? They are literally acting like you aren't present, like girls used to do in primary school. They're not even using you to pay for their drinks at this point - they're literally blanking you and freezing you out.

I know you say you like them, in spite of this. I just don't understand why. You have the patience of a saint.

ETA that I've just seen the car update. I had a cousin EXACTLY like this. She'd call me to talk about herself relentlessly, then she'd make another call while still on ours and put me on hold! And a lot of other stuff. I did eventually ditch her when I almost died from blood loss a decade ago, and she didn't once call me or check in on me (her mother did but not a word from her.)

What would these women do if YOU needed a night time lift, to borrow money, etc.?

LuLuLemonadeDrinker · 07/05/2026 11:56

PoppinjayPolly · 07/05/2026 11:46

can almost guarantee you that if you do tell her how annoyed you were, she will feign disbelief and offence, and you’ll probably just give her and the other woman fodder to talk about you with.

Well this is what I was thinking tbh.

Looking back over the friendships realistically over the past couple of years, the one I'm closest so has made full 'use' of me and my friendship but given very little back. Things like her car broke down one night, she phoned me as was stranded. It was a really cold icy dark night and I drove half an hour to her, only to barely get a thank you and no offer of any fuel money. And to make things worse she then phoned another friend during the journey back to her house, giggling and laughing away to her whilst I drove her like a chauffeur.

I think I've glossed over or ignored red flags in the last year or so with both of them so the drinks/shop thing is probably the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

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Phelicity · 07/05/2026 11:54

That sounds like the last time I met up with my 2 sisters, only it was the other way round - they were so much in their own little bubble I left them to it, did my own thing & only really met up with them to kiss them goodbye “til next time”.

It seems to have been a big success as they keep asking me when we’re going to get together again 🤷‍♀️

OP, don’t brood on it - try again, it might have been a one-off. On this occasion the dynamic favoured two of you, not all three.

DoughnutDreamer · 07/05/2026 11:52

On the face of it, yes it sounds rude. Were they friendly the rest of the time though? Was this the only incident where you felt excluded? Or was it the whole time you were together?

If they were normal and friendly the rest of the time, could it be a more innocent explanation- perhaps one of them owed the other one money and instead of paying it back she said “oh just get me lunch when we’re out” or some situation like that. If they were completely normal and nice in all other respects then I would give the benefit of the doubt in this instance, but I would definitely stop treating them to lunch going forward.

MyDeftDuck · 07/05/2026 11:49

I would find that very rude and hurtful too! I am disabled and walk much slower than my friends, hence they often go out together despite inviting me along and when I’ve assessed the destination I frequently turn down the invite. When we do all go together, one of them always carries my food tray/drink etc and we always sort out the payment fairly…….if one has just a coffee and the others have coffee with cake then we pay for what we have individually had. No one carries the bill for the rest.

OP friends don’t sound very kind to me and TBH I’d be stepping away from them

SoScarletItWas · 07/05/2026 11:49

SilkSilk · 07/05/2026 11:05

But what you’re describing is a pattern of behaviour, if it happened in the shop as well. You offering to pay, and trailing along trying to find them, while they seem far more focused on one another.

Sadly I agree. It sounds like they are good friends as a pair and you’re a bit on the outside.

What they did at the coffee shop was downright rude.

TorroFerney · 07/05/2026 11:47

If it was just the food I’d think maybe one owed the other for a previous meal so was paying this time but it seems more than that. If you feel these were too small to mention perhaps one more chance but only you know if you are prolonging the inevitable end .