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Racism from a customer at work, am I over reacting? (TW - Racist language)

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PyongyangKipperbang · 23/04/2026 17:20

I work in hospitality. There is a man who comes in regularly on his own, I think he is a widower and is in his 80's I would say, I think his age is relevant. There were some carers in with their service users from a local place and about half of them were black. He said to me, in a very quiet voice "Soon there will be more w*gs in here than white people" I apologise for the language, these are his words not mine.

Being at work I was limited to what I could say so I said "I love how our area is so multicultural now, it makes life so much better" he humphed a bit an left. I was massively insulted that he clearly thought I would agree with him.

I spoke to my colleague and said I was not going to deal with him anymore and that if he wanted serving again or in future I wasnt going to be doing it. I have the right to say that and I am comfortable with that decision.

However it has really upset me, I felt very emotional and when I got home just now, I burst into tears. Is that an over reaction? I am in my 50's, I am not naive to the fact that racism is still in the world and that some elderly people still think like this (not all, my own parents don't, but some).

I wonder if its because I have a mixed race DD, she is half Jamaican by heritage, and that's why I am taking it so personally but ignorant arseholes like that have never upset me in this way before. That said, normally I can put people in their place pretty quickly but with it being at work I couldnt really do that so maybe its the fact that I couldnt do much that has upset me.

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CrazyGoatLady · 24/04/2026 01:56

You're not overreacting OP, it's vile, and totally wrong of him to assume you agree because of your skin colour.

Of course if you know someone has dementia you might treat off colour comments differently, but it doesn't really sound like that applies here (healthcare background). If it really was someone being unable to control what they say, unlikely he's have lowered his voice and made a show of trying to say it on the sly. Not impossible of course, but unlikely for someone whose comments come from uncontrolled disinhibition.

My DGM is in her mid 90s and has got more openly racist as she has got older, which given she's an immigrant herself is a bit stupid really, but there we are. She once made an offensive comment to me about a Nigerian nurse when she was in hospital and I told her never to say anything like that in my hearing again. She probably wouldn't understand the concept of something like a microaggression, but she damn well knows where the line is when it comes to what is unacceptable and offensive racist language. She relies on her age allowing her to get away with it unchallenged, and I suspect many others who think and speak this way also do. Assuming dementia is ruled out, age is no excuse for being a racist shithead, and you'd be well within your rights as a business to give him some friendly advice about not using racist language if he wishes to continue being a customer.

NotMeAtAll · 24/04/2026 01:14

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/04/2026 18:43

Thanks for all the comments.

I didnt get the impression that he has any form of dementia, he has been a regular for the whole time I have been there and he hasnt really changed in any way that I have spotted. Although I will concede that sometimes these things are invisible.

The issue is more my surprise at my reaction. I am not particularly stressed (no more than normal!) and nothing else is going on. Perhaps it the double whammy of having a mixed race daughter who is mid teens and just starting to realise that not everyone is as open and welcoming as her friends and school mates, and the fact that I couldnt call him out on what he said.

With a mixed-race daughter, how could you have reacted any other way?

Inmyuggs · 24/04/2026 01:09

Serve him again
Best come back for mental people is to smile and ignore the bait.
Or say if you must racism is not acceoted here.
Bet he is a cranky old sad barstard...or say that.
Hospo work you will strike all sorts of creeps weirdos.
Ignoring takes time but oit the poor barstard.

JHound · 24/04/2026 00:59

Itsmetheflamingo · 23/04/2026 20:02

What’s the question?

Why have you decided this man has Tourettes?

PyongyangKipperbang · 24/04/2026 00:40

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:18

look at the words used in the sitcom love thy neighbour, yes times have moved on but many people are encoded with the words and language from older times

My ex (DD's father) bloody loved Love thy Neighbour, his whole family did.

Because the wives got on famously, the black husband always had the upper hand and the white racist husband always ended up looking like a dick. So although at first glance its not ok because of the language etc, it actually was quite progressive in how it lampooned racist white men.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 24/04/2026 00:37

Flamingojune · 23/04/2026 22:57

I'da told him actually i have a mixed race daughter you racist wanker, then barred him

Would you though?

Because its easy to say that here and now but in the moment....not so much. And I was at work, swearing like that at a guest could cost me my job, a job that supports DD and me. Worth losing that to say something momentarily satisfying to a bigoted git who would probably put it down to my being a "typical bloody woman"? Because if he is racist its very likely he is sexist too. I wouldnt be educating him would I?

Its one of those "Oh I should have said...." things that happen 10 minutes after the prick pushes in front of you at the supermarket.

But thank you, I do get what you are saying, its just not that simple unfortunately!

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Flamingojune · 23/04/2026 22:57

I'da told him actually i have a mixed race daughter you racist wanker, then barred him

nocoolnamesleft · 23/04/2026 22:46

My parents are 79. They would consider such language to be offensive and would never use it. They actually mentioned recently how much more ethnically and racially diverse their local church had become, and what a positive it is. Being 80 doesn't explain or excuse being racist.

JustSawJohnny · 23/04/2026 21:25

Well done for saying something back to him.

The cunts are emboldened at the moment.

It needs calling out. Every single time.

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/04/2026 21:13

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:18

look at the words used in the sitcom love thy neighbour, yes times have moved on but many people are encoded with the words and language from older times

They didn't go straight from 1970 to 2026, they have lived in society during the decades in between. It is no excuse. I am 70+ myself and was not brought up thinking racist language was acceptable.

AccordingToWhom · 23/04/2026 21:09

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:24

that i agree with, in my haphzard way i was trying to explain it was not that long ago we had shows like love thy neighbour influcing peoples language

Ah I see x

Delici · 23/04/2026 20:54

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:30

i agree with what your saying but its how to change the mindset of others, thats the pickle of it

By not accepting it imo.

NoisyMonster678 · 23/04/2026 20:50

Remember, you have a genuine reason for feeling bad about the elderly man's prejudiced attitude. I 100% agree with you here.

His bad attitude is due to ignorance and if he was born in the early to mid 1940s, society, in those days was not how it is today. Racism was like a disease of the mind so his own upbringing could ( I have to remain vague) have had an impact and he turned towards prejudice, instead of against it.

All blood is red, all life is precious.

dancehysterical55 · 23/04/2026 20:47

Anyahyacinth · 23/04/2026 19:10

To all the apologists. ..he was aware he was being racist as he used an extra quiet voice. People with dementia wouldn't moderate their tone.

I had this in hospital...every wonderful nationality as carers and brilliant...one cleaner a Scot ..after being an inpatient for a while she whispered racism to me and I couldn't believe she would think I'd be complicit and told her so. It's pecking order, insecure need for superiority of course but still DEEPLY unpleasant and literally leads to mass murder via wars etc...so is a very upsetting ugly thing to experience OP 💐💐💐

Why the need to mention she was a Scot?

canadawaterborne · 23/04/2026 20:46

OP, did this actually happen? I ask not because I doubt racists exist but because I recognise your name from starting multiple 'AIBU to think this racist thing is racist?' threads over the years where you've found yourself in so many situations like this.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 23/04/2026 20:44

ExtraOnions · 23/04/2026 17:54

Serve him? He should be barred.

My Mum is 90, and wouldn’t use langague like that .. it was offensive 40 years ago, and it’s offensive now

But your Mum would have been 50 40 years ago. So far too old at that age to be influenced. People born in the 1930s and 40s would possibly have grown up and around the signs in the 1950s that said eg No Blacks, No Irish. That culture on young people must go deep. Of course OP shouldn't be forced to agree with the man's views, but I would ask them gently to be aware of what happens as people age. I dont just mean dementia. They start to struggle with change and regress back in time. I've once had to be very firm with my dad, who did have dementia, about offensive language. Never heard it before and he was 88 when he died. And then again once with my mum, who does not have dementia and her comment was unacceptable. She was scared and I knew that was the driver.

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:30

Delici · 23/04/2026 20:29

And yet it is not acceptable. Words that were ‘acceptable’ when I was growing up are no longer considered acceptable and are slurs. I will not give examples because I am not ok with using those words. Age and times changing isn’t an excuse.

Yet I love and use the word cunt quite freely.

i agree with what your saying but its how to change the mindset of others, thats the pickle of it

Delici · 23/04/2026 20:29

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:18

look at the words used in the sitcom love thy neighbour, yes times have moved on but many people are encoded with the words and language from older times

And yet it is not acceptable. Words that were ‘acceptable’ when I was growing up are no longer considered acceptable and are slurs. I will not give examples because I am not ok with using those words. Age and times changing isn’t an excuse.

Yet I love and use the word cunt quite freely.

sickofthissick · 23/04/2026 20:27

I work in a sector where I have to deal with some very frustrated and vulnerable, also often angry people. The amount of times I've had to deal with comments about 'them' coming over and getting houses, or 'them' in doctors or hospitals before 'us' is very wearing.

I just respond by telling them we are talking about their situation no-one else's amd can we refocus please.
Then I scream when they're gone!

Delici · 23/04/2026 20:26

‘We do not tolerate racism’ over and over and over.

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:24

AccordingToWhom · 23/04/2026 20:22

Oh come on, they should absolutely know by now that they are unacceptable!

that i agree with, in my haphzard way i was trying to explain it was not that long ago we had shows like love thy neighbour influcing peoples language

AccordingToWhom · 23/04/2026 20:22

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:18

look at the words used in the sitcom love thy neighbour, yes times have moved on but many people are encoded with the words and language from older times

Oh come on, they should absolutely know by now that they are unacceptable!

CharleneElizabethBaltimore · 23/04/2026 20:18

ProudAmberTurtle · 23/04/2026 18:25

My neighbour started using the W word from his mid 80s after he was diagnosed with dementia (his granddaughter mentioned it to me out of embarrassment, and said he never said it to them before but it was widely used in society until about the 1970s).

look at the words used in the sitcom love thy neighbour, yes times have moved on but many people are encoded with the words and language from older times

PolkaDotPorridge · 23/04/2026 20:17

ItsPickleRick · 23/04/2026 19:46

So many racist apologists on this thread. I despair.

Grim isn’t it, as are they!

AccordingToWhom · 23/04/2026 20:16

MabelRoyds · 23/04/2026 18:11

He may very likely have a disability like dementia. Not all disabilities are visible.

Oh ffffffffffffffffs!!

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