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What happens to kids if AI takes entry level jobs? What you advising them?

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Tffjyvkbh · 23/04/2026 09:56

On back of the worming class boys thread. If AI takes over white collar jobs, what happens to all the m.c. communities. Education and aspiration became a feature post industrialisation once blue collar jobs disappeared and you needed education to get ahead in office jobs. What happens now? My kid is only 6 but already thinking about this.

If AI takes jobs, does education become pointless. How are parents guiding their kids? Looking at parts that lost industries, will parts of South east become like that once office jobs go?

If even Oxbridge and STEM is no longer enough to guarantee a comfortable life, then what for the young people?

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Girasoli · 24/04/2026 09:44

I can see the appeal of having a homestead like those American instagrammers and trying to become more self sufficient.

Tuiy · 24/04/2026 09:36

Jobs involving caring for older people and children are probably the only safe ones left. Not many people will want their beloved kids and relatives being cared for by robots.

Everything else I can see is at risk including physical work like bricklaying they already have robotic limbs that can play table tennis at elite level.

It is quite worrying, what will the elite do with us “useless eaters” when they really do have no use for more than half of us?

Catha537 · 24/04/2026 09:29

The idea that young people just need to be careful to choose a job that isn’t very exposed to AI doesn’t really work in a job market as dire as the UK’s right now. I think a lot of young people are simply desperate to get any job they can.

There is not really the space to pick and choose at the moment. I feel sorry for young people I feel they have been dealt a really bad hand. I don’t really understand what the end game with AI is how are these companies actually going to make any money and when AI takes all the jobs what is the customer base going to be for all these big companies if no one has any income.

I have absolutely no faith that the rich will start pushing for an UBI or support it.

FernandoSor · 24/04/2026 08:42

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 24/04/2026 08:20

I think there will be higher value for SOME human
based art creation. But it will take some time to come back. A bit like vinyl records after cds.

however the rest of the boring jobs I just don’t know. Even driving is threatened and that’s the global largest industry apparently

in San Francisco driverless taxis are the norm. Robot deliveries are the norm.

we saw a driverless delivery in Milton Keynes recently

all these young men (mostly) drivers with no job.

what’s will that do to society without all the extras. Office staff etc. warehouses are starting to go automated. Thats more people.

in just can’t see where all these so called new opportunities are coming from
with
out some
sort of generous UBI

with that maybe more leisure opportunities can be created but without money this can’t happen as who can pay
for it.

I see some sort of hunger games World ahead (hopefully without the killing) where a tiny proportion live in splendor and the rest live in poverty

I just can’t believe that the AI companies and the govt will be that forward thinking generous and responsible to actually help anyone

Right - while people focus on AI taking white collar jobs, automation and robotisation is increasingly taking bluecollar jobs, particularly unskilled and semi-skilled manual jobs. Warehousing, agriculture, construction labouring, driving and deliveries, are all in the crosshairs. But its been ongoing for years - self-service checkouts, ATMs, self-service coffee machines. What workplaces still have a tea lady (or a typing pool)?

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 24/04/2026 08:20

I think there will be higher value for SOME human
based art creation. But it will take some time to come back. A bit like vinyl records after cds.

however the rest of the boring jobs I just don’t know. Even driving is threatened and that’s the global largest industry apparently

in San Francisco driverless taxis are the norm. Robot deliveries are the norm.

we saw a driverless delivery in Milton Keynes recently

all these young men (mostly) drivers with no job.

what’s will that do to society without all the extras. Office staff etc. warehouses are starting to go automated. Thats more people.

in just can’t see where all these so called new opportunities are coming from
with
out some
sort of generous UBI

with that maybe more leisure opportunities can be created but without money this can’t happen as who can pay
for it.

I see some sort of hunger games World ahead (hopefully without the killing) where a tiny proportion live in splendor and the rest live in poverty

I just can’t believe that the AI companies and the govt will be that forward thinking generous and responsible to actually help anyone

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 24/04/2026 07:36

IDontFuckingThinkSo · 23/04/2026 23:23

Creative industries already are using ai.

My corner of the creative industry is putting no-ai clauses in contracts

FernandoSor · 24/04/2026 07:25

IDontFuckingThinkSo · 23/04/2026 23:23

Creative industries already are using ai.

There is a huge backlash against people using AI in the artistic creative industry - just look at the absolutely brutal attacks on musicians who are using Suno. Conventions now routinely have signs up saying any artist found to be using AI will be asked to leave.

It’s a different story in the commercial creative sector of course, where ad agencies, corporate communications departments, and small businesses creating flyers etc have embraced it wholesale. It’s been devastating for copywriters, graphic designers, videographers, and musicians who were reliant on this commercial market.

FernandoSor · 24/04/2026 07:12

Octavia64 · 23/04/2026 20:04

No - for exactly the reasons you state.

i’d be interested iin how they stop the hallucinations though.

A low temperature model, guardrails, LLM-as-a-judge, and heavy fine tuning using LoRA are all used to produce non-hallucinating models that work extremely well within a specific knowledge domain.

So, start off with a general purpose model, say Llama 4 and do the following:

  1. turn its creativity (temperature) right down
  2. Train it (LoRA fine tuning) on a whole bunch of tax or legal stuff or whatever. It will forget about recipes and Taylor Swift lyrics in the process but you don’t care about that
  3. Evaluate it with another LLM (LLM-as-a-judge) for a different family which has been similarly trained but on a different dataset
  4. Stick filters on its inputs and outputs (guardrails) that catch nefarious inputs and outputs - these filters may be simple pattern matching or may themselves use small LLMa
  5. Turn it into an agent by giving it access to tools: eg a database of accounting case law to look up stuff it doesn’t know or stuff that has changed since the last time it was trained

Domain-specific models (and the agents built on them) are a world away from the general chatbots that most people think of as AI.

WaryCrow · 24/04/2026 06:02

Octavia64 · 23/04/2026 17:00

The economic historians have endless arguments about industrialisation.

in any country industrialisation means a huge shift of population from the country to the city or towns.

in the U.K. this was in full swing by the Victorian period.

what they argue about is whether people were better off working in the factories. There was a lot of rural poverty before the Industrial Revolution but it was a lot less obvious in society as people were in their own houses.

none the less, loads of people chose to move into towns and work in (dirty, dangerous) factories and live in shared houses with no indoor water… which does suggest that conditions in the countryside were even worse…..

Conditions in the countryside were worse AT THAT TIME because people had no choices. They had just been kicked off the land they had used for generations by the rich enclosing everything they could find for themselves.

People are being remarkably blasé about the impact of the Industrial Revolution, it was horrendous at the time due to the loss of work - due to the change of work patterns that at that point had lasted since the Neolithic, really. People died in tens of thousands and were reduced to penury and then had the ruling elites making laws against beggars.

Women were famously reduced to prostitution in the cities where they were murdered with little fanfare.

It took centuries to redress the social balance and only really happened with the First World War. We still have successors to movements like the arts and crafts bemoaning the impact.

So many on here seem inured even to the impacts of the 80s destruction of coal mining, yet there are towns that have never recovered from that, with generations cursed because they are living on benefits with no hope and now with no way out and nothing to aim for.

Thats the future that awaits us. Its already happening with gangs of men hating women worse than ever before, and the fucking government enabling more and more of them to pour into the country.

BridgetJonesDaiquiri · 24/04/2026 00:17

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 23/04/2026 23:54

Jobs will be the least of our worries once self learning ai is developed and in the wrong hands. Terrorists, enemy states. Crazed leaders. Will use is for all sorts of purposes

create a new pandemic
create new methods
of mass destruction
stock market crashes
leading to civil war

also its getting to the point where we don’t know what’s true or not true anymore.

this scares me more than the job situation and that’s bad enough.

The bad human actor is a concern obviously but one major issue with true self learning / recursive AI (which Elon et al are aiming for) is that it may well spiral out of control and through continual self improvement will lead to super intelligent AI. What then? The lack of available jobs for graduates will look like a minor inconvenience when we’re staring down the barrel of an existential crisis.

Predictions for the future seem to lurch between a utopia where all our problems are solved and we have abundance and infinite leisure time (sure, Jan) or a dystopia where our society collapses or worse. The next few years will be interesting.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 23/04/2026 23:54

Jobs will be the least of our worries once self learning ai is developed and in the wrong hands. Terrorists, enemy states. Crazed leaders. Will use is for all sorts of purposes

create a new pandemic
create new methods
of mass destruction
stock market crashes
leading to civil war

also its getting to the point where we don’t know what’s true or not true anymore.

this scares me more than the job situation and that’s bad enough.

IDontFuckingThinkSo · 23/04/2026 23:23

swingingbytheseat · 23/04/2026 23:02

Creative industries will not use .ai in fact I think mobile phones are going to become very unwanted / anti social at gigs and pubs & will be banned, like smoking
.ai writing is shit and blindingly obvious, so are the artworks. Any publishing house with integrity will have a no .ai policy written into contracts, same as good advertising agencies.

if they do use ‘ai they will still require a human to upload style guides and tone of voice which is a job for a copywriter/ creative

Creative industries already are using ai.

swingingbytheseat · 23/04/2026 23:02

Creative industries will not use .ai in fact I think mobile phones are going to become very unwanted / anti social at gigs and pubs & will be banned, like smoking
.ai writing is shit and blindingly obvious, so are the artworks. Any publishing house with integrity will have a no .ai policy written into contracts, same as good advertising agencies.

if they do use ‘ai they will still require a human to upload style guides and tone of voice which is a job for a copywriter/ creative

GoatsOfNavahoe · 23/04/2026 23:00

Tffjyvkbh · 23/04/2026 10:27

Everyone says get a trade but if everyone does that, who will pay them? I guess that I do worry that I won't be able to guide them properly. It feels like it used to be much easier before, study well, go to uni, get a gras job. That's what me and all my friends did.

I know I do find all this learn a trade and you’ll be fine a bit daft, it’s obvious that we’re going to be oversaturated with trades people so their market value will drop and jobs will become tight.

ByNimbleGreenFinch · 23/04/2026 22:58

persisted · 23/04/2026 10:31

There are jobs now that did not exist when I left school, even more so since when my dad did. Things will change, other opportunities will open up.
They need to work hard and be adaptable, same as it ever was.

Exactly this. My kids are a similar age to yours and I’m not worried about. I do a job that didn’t exist when I was 6 why wouldn’t the same be true for my kids?!

Ooih · 23/04/2026 22:57

Tffjyvkbh · 23/04/2026 10:27

Everyone says get a trade but if everyone does that, who will pay them? I guess that I do worry that I won't be able to guide them properly. It feels like it used to be much easier before, study well, go to uni, get a gras job. That's what me and all my friends did.

Kind of but it's not going to have served those in their 20s today. You have time to see what unfolds

MineThineYom · 23/04/2026 22:55

ValueofNothing · 23/04/2026 18:00

Time for Universal Basic Income.

I have never been pro UBI until now. But if AI is taking jobs, then surely it should be to allow humans to work a bit less, to job share and to have more leisure time, not to sink into poverty. AI should be used for the benefit of humanity's wellbeing and not to make a few extremely rich men even richer.

I mean we all know which way this will go. And it's pointless to imagine that the powers that be will give a crap about the younger generation when they never have before. But UBI would be fairer than losing a generation to misery and unemployment.

Leisure time?
Our tech overlords wont want us having too much time to ponder how it is they they have hoovered up all the money. They will want the ordinary people to be kept stressed & busy so we cant muster the time or energy to overthrow them.

värskekapsas · 23/04/2026 22:45

I am teaching my daughter that education is not a one off, its a life long learning. You need to constancy keep learning new things and adapt otherwise yes you will be left behind. Its hard to predict what will be but young people always come up with new and better ideas on how to make money, so they will figure it out.

flygenza · 23/04/2026 22:35

Octavia64 · 23/04/2026 15:51

Forty years ago is 1986.

i was alive in 1986 there was plenty of technology.

I interpret this as digital detox, technology has existed for millions of years.

AgnesMcDoo · 23/04/2026 21:38

Focus on roles that require human interaction and relationships

JulietteHasAGun · 23/04/2026 21:37

So Meta have announced they’re laying 8000 people off and increasing spending on AI to improve efficiency.

Girasoli · 23/04/2026 20:24

I'm advising my DC to move to the EU - legislation wise, they seem to have twigged onto the human impact of AI much quicker than the US/UK.

(This isn't the only reason I'm advising them to move to the EU).

ValueofNothing · 23/04/2026 20:24

JulietteHasAGun · 23/04/2026 18:06

how will the government afford it? There won’t be enough working people paying tax. The companies saving money aren’t going to willingly fund it.

what level do you think it’ll be set at? Enough for people to have a nice lifestyle? Hobbies and holidays? Or a pittance like universal credit where you’re struggling to eat. I’d take a guess at the latter.

As i implied, I don't think it's going to come in.

What the government should do if we get to the stage described is tax the people who hoard the massive profits that are driven by AI stealing people's jobs. But, as I said, we all know which way things would go in that situation and there will be little interest in ensuring we have a fair society if it means a few billionaires need to be slightly less wealthy.

WheretheFishesareFrightening · 23/04/2026 20:13

Octavia64 · 23/04/2026 20:04

No - for exactly the reasons you state.

i’d be interested iin how they stop the hallucinations though.

I don’t know enough about how it’s coded, but you can set the creativity level on our software, where at one end it doesn’t pull on anything other than the sources its trained on and a higher level where it can reason and possibly hallucinate as it “thinks” more for itself so it’s doable.

Octavia64 · 23/04/2026 20:04

WheretheFishesareFrightening · 23/04/2026 17:08

That’s true for ChatGPT, but have you used AI designed for tax law (I presume not as it’s not publicly available). It is more accurate than any human I’ve ever dealt with. It’s unable to hallucinate and has immediate access to all case law, legislation and supporting commentary.

At the moment, you need to be able to ask it the right questions though - so it’s no use to Joe bloggs on the street, but if you know you might have, say, a degrouping charge issue then the AI can outperforms most humans I’d say.

No - for exactly the reasons you state.

i’d be interested iin how they stop the hallucinations though.

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