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What happens to kids if AI takes entry level jobs? What you advising them?

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Tffjyvkbh · 23/04/2026 09:56

On back of the worming class boys thread. If AI takes over white collar jobs, what happens to all the m.c. communities. Education and aspiration became a feature post industrialisation once blue collar jobs disappeared and you needed education to get ahead in office jobs. What happens now? My kid is only 6 but already thinking about this.

If AI takes jobs, does education become pointless. How are parents guiding their kids? Looking at parts that lost industries, will parts of South east become like that once office jobs go?

If even Oxbridge and STEM is no longer enough to guarantee a comfortable life, then what for the young people?

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Badbadbunny · 26/04/2026 15:55

Delatron · 26/04/2026 14:15

Apparently AI is correct 8 times out of 10, near enough 1/10 and completely wrong 1/10 times. So there will always need to be someone checking the accuracy.

Similar to jobs done by humans really. There should always be supervision/review of work done by more junior/inexperienced staff. Even older/experienced professionals in lots of professions are subject to external reviews/file checks by their professional bodies.

It'd be a very stupid person/firm to rely 100% on AI without any form of "sanity check" review by someone with relevant qualifications/experience. Just like it would be stupid to accept work done by an intern or graduate without checking it.

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 15:30

Delatron · 26/04/2026 14:13

Just been chatting with friends about this.

In an ideal, optimistic world I’d like to see the reduction in work just lead to a 4 day week and a better work/life balance for all. Also talk of universal credit increasing and more state support (though no idea where the money will come from).

DH works 12 hour days (consulting) AI is starting to be able to do a lot of this work. So I’d love for him to work less but I guess in reality it means massive job cuts all round.

Really not sure what to advise teens off to Uni at the moment.

Teens should continue to learn and study the subjects they are interested in, but ensure that the courses they choose include how AI tooling is impacting the industry they are interested in.

OR study STEM as a purist.

why do we think everyone needs to stop what they’re are doing? Who feeds knowledge and information to the LLMs behind AI tools?

People. People do. We do, you do, they will.

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 15:27

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 14:40

That makes no sense. If evolution doesn't happen overnight they had time to think about paying people rather than pirating their IP.

it makes no sense because you don’t understand it.

AI technology has been in development for 50yrs. But WHAT it can be used for is the point. All of sudden organisations and people are identifying how to use it and what purpose it can serve.

Including you clearly. Learn about it and how it can help you as an author instead of blaming ‘them’ whomever you think ‘they’ are.

rootootoot · 26/04/2026 14:47

ZoeCM · 26/04/2026 14:43

Yes, I'm a bit surprised at Val Kilmer's family agreeing to it. It doesn't sit right with me.

for lots of money I expect

ZoeCM · 26/04/2026 14:43

WaryCrow · 25/04/2026 21:03

Am I the only person who thinks that recreating dead people via AI avatars is just bloody disgusting? Let the dead rest in peace ffs.

Yes, I'm a bit surprised at Val Kilmer's family agreeing to it. It doesn't sit right with me.

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 14:40

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 14:16

Because evolution doesn’t happen overnight?

No doubt you equally haven’t learnt how to protect yourself and your profession from AI either.

That makes no sense. If evolution doesn't happen overnight they had time to think about paying people rather than pirating their IP.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 26/04/2026 14:23

Delatron · 26/04/2026 14:15

Apparently AI is correct 8 times out of 10, near enough 1/10 and completely wrong 1/10 times. So there will always need to be someone checking the accuracy.

Well yes, in the same way that one person would often check the work of 5-10 young people in entry level positions in professional industries. There won’t be a complete lack of jobs, just the lower level jobs that are a training ground all gone. The the next stage up, one person to check output replacing 10+ people etc.

Your child will need to step straight into the “checking” role, so possibly paid for training post uni, not a training contract.

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 14:16

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 12:44

the intent is for creators to be paid

Bullshit. Why didn't they work out the details of how to pay for IP before scraping it without permission in that case and why are they having to be dragged through the courts to cough up?

Because evolution doesn’t happen overnight?

No doubt you equally haven’t learnt how to protect yourself and your profession from AI either.

Delatron · 26/04/2026 14:15

Apparently AI is correct 8 times out of 10, near enough 1/10 and completely wrong 1/10 times. So there will always need to be someone checking the accuracy.

Delatron · 26/04/2026 14:13

Just been chatting with friends about this.

In an ideal, optimistic world I’d like to see the reduction in work just lead to a 4 day week and a better work/life balance for all. Also talk of universal credit increasing and more state support (though no idea where the money will come from).

DH works 12 hour days (consulting) AI is starting to be able to do a lot of this work. So I’d love for him to work less but I guess in reality it means massive job cuts all round.

Really not sure what to advise teens off to Uni at the moment.

flygenza · 26/04/2026 13:57

rootootoot · 26/04/2026 12:42

Midwifery isn’t a great vocation anymore due to the falling birth rate. The government do need to limit university courses for it though and other medical courses if there are no jobs.

This is why I am totally pro immigration but with better integration policies.

decorationday · 26/04/2026 13:37

StealthMama · 25/04/2026 18:17

Not at all - AI does the commodity work, humans do the critical thinking and creative direction.

That's great except for the body of evidence we already have which demonstrates that people won't have the ability to critically evaluate and analyse the outputs if they have outsourced their thinking to the computer and/or never had the opportunity to develop their knowledge and judgment by performing the task themselves. The human cannot deal with the exceptions if the human has been de-skilled (or never skilled in the first place) because it's just been pressing a button to produce outputs.

Which is one reason among many why those claiming that legal and tax advice can be replaced by AI are wrong. There won't be any humans capable of validating it or identifying its flaws and biases. (It's also untrue to say the legal AI products cannot hallucinate - even the companies selling the products admit they can still hallucinate.)

The lack of critical thinking about AI adoption does not exactly fill me with confidence that people already using it have the critical thinking skills to validate it. Just because a technology is shiny and new that does not mean it is better or should be used - see also, social media and smartphones for children, asbestos in everything we could think of (wasn't that great), RAAC ceilings, carcinogens being used to make children's clothing stain repellant, and arsenic wallpaper.

Don't get me started on the economic illiteracy of thinking that you can eliminate jobs across industries and the businesses that previously employed humans continue to be profitable - or indeed any business. You won't have millionaire electricians because they won't have any customers. But on the plus side at least all the tech bros who foisted this on us would be bankrupted too, I suppose.

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 12:53

Meanwhile we are supposed to be aiming for net zero

www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/24/officials-hugely-underestimated-impact-of-ai-datacentres-on-uk-carbon-emissions

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 12:44

the intent is for creators to be paid

Bullshit. Why didn't they work out the details of how to pay for IP before scraping it without permission in that case and why are they having to be dragged through the courts to cough up?

rootootoot · 26/04/2026 12:42

lazymaw · 26/04/2026 12:29

I worry the same and DD is only 6. I work in healthcare and AI is affecting things like medicine, especially radiology, diagnostic processes etc. I read an article just this week saying nursing, midwifery and paramedics courses are oversubscribed and there just isn’t the vacancies for all the recent graduates, when traditionally there was for a large %. So they are studying and being trained for specific roles and will still be unemployed at the end, having to fight off the previous years unemployed graduates. Unless they emigrate which isn’t open to everyone. DD has dual citizenship with another country far away but this is a heartbreaking thought unless it’s her dream to do so as she’s my only child. It’s crazy as every other week we read about a crisis in nursing, midwifery and surely more staff and investment is needed (yes i know there are government cost issues etc)

She may want to do something completely different like trades, teaching or self employments business but all of these similar issues or other problems. My teacher friends area put a freeze on hiring new grads, and she still only has mainly bank work (though longterm contracts, but not permanent with the rights it brings) 6 years later from qualifying.

I get those are only snippets and not the whole picture, I live rurally and children moving for work happens all the time, but I think we will need to be prepared for moving countries/continents instead of to the big city.

Midwifery isn’t a great vocation anymore due to the falling birth rate. The government do need to limit university courses for it though and other medical courses if there are no jobs.

lazymaw · 26/04/2026 12:29

I worry the same and DD is only 6. I work in healthcare and AI is affecting things like medicine, especially radiology, diagnostic processes etc. I read an article just this week saying nursing, midwifery and paramedics courses are oversubscribed and there just isn’t the vacancies for all the recent graduates, when traditionally there was for a large %. So they are studying and being trained for specific roles and will still be unemployed at the end, having to fight off the previous years unemployed graduates. Unless they emigrate which isn’t open to everyone. DD has dual citizenship with another country far away but this is a heartbreaking thought unless it’s her dream to do so as she’s my only child. It’s crazy as every other week we read about a crisis in nursing, midwifery and surely more staff and investment is needed (yes i know there are government cost issues etc)

She may want to do something completely different like trades, teaching or self employments business but all of these similar issues or other problems. My teacher friends area put a freeze on hiring new grads, and she still only has mainly bank work (though longterm contracts, but not permanent with the rights it brings) 6 years later from qualifying.

I get those are only snippets and not the whole picture, I live rurally and children moving for work happens all the time, but I think we will need to be prepared for moving countries/continents instead of to the big city.

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 12:02

EarthlyNightshade · 26/04/2026 10:18

Have you seen Abba Voyage?
People heavily involved of course but AI will certainly be able to perform on stage.

Of course - because it can do something doesn’t mean it replaces an entire industry.

its additional entertainment, it creates more jobs. It doesn’t replaces existing on stage shows. The only thing that does that is lack of demand.

EarthlyNightshade · 26/04/2026 10:18

StealthMama · 25/04/2026 23:15

No, this is hyperbole. It’s the same. Fast cheap soundtracks or columns can be created by AI. Still require people to validate, assure tone, imagery etc is what was intended.

AI can’t perform on stage. can’t play a guitar. Can only originate using versions of what it already knows.

commodity tasks get automated - yes. But not the creators, artists, writers.

why? Because people want the real thing. AI simplifies some of the tasks. Where it is used can benefit the creator and producer in the pace they can create new things.

And copywrite still exists. LLMs are not a legal entity and cannot own copywrite. Where it uses someone’s prior content to create something new, the copywrite owner will be paid.

Have you seen Abba Voyage?
People heavily involved of course but AI will certainly be able to perform on stage.

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 09:16

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 08:41

You cannot be taken seriously if you misspell a key term in the debate three times.

🌺

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 09:15

Holdinguphalfthesky · 26/04/2026 08:56

HRTFT (page one and current last page) but going back to the OP, I suggested my dc thinks about doing a degree for its own sake, rather than having a goal in mind (as at the moment she doesn’t know what she wants to do); then think about starting a business around a lifelong interest she has.

More broadly, I see AI as a threat to most creative and analytical professions, sadly, as pp have mentioned. The areas where I can’t see it being able to replace humans are things like caring jobs, work with vulnerable people and with animals, and things which have to be done in person like hairdressing. But I fear that for many communities, there will be mass unemployment as was seen in mining towns following the closure of the coal mines- that was devastating and I think this will be similar and much more widespread.

I personally think that government will be forced into offering a universal basic income, because most of the available jobs will be low-paid due to the competition for them. But without some sort of wholesale rethinking of how we find meaning and purpose in life, I really worry about the long term impact of AI.

Generic degrees will become pointless, because our speed and ability to learn using AI will write off the need to study business for 3 yrs for example. As a tool, information is at our fingertips, research time is reduced by 70%.

We still need lawyers - who will use AI. Authors - who will use AI. Doctors - who will use AI. Teachers - who will use AI.

Carers will still use AI. Apps in their phones. As will Builders, bus drivers, restaurant workers.

there will still be a need for junior level staff.

New degrees are already becoming available in using AI but they are mostly technical or data based. My niece is going to study Architecture next year and we found a course that includes use of AI in design.

if you are not learning, in whatever your line of work is, how AI will create opportunity then you end up in the group that it will replace. Low level commodity task based work will be replaced. That’s fact.

For the younger ones it was known for the last 3 yrs that 80% of their future jobs didn’t exist yet because of the AI capability that was coming, the speed at which AI is creating jobs owns quite dramatic - yes it’s still in the technical field - those who will enable AI usage everywhere else. But we will always need people to manage the AI agents and tools in every industry they are used.

Its not doom and gloom by any means, but it is the Industrial Revolution of our time. For as long as the press scaremonger about it the longer people will resist getting involved out of fear. I do wish they would change the narrative.

The government are already looking at charging a levy to organisations who make redundancies specifically due to AI in order to fund retraining and skills uplift for those in lower skilled work.

The gaps around sustainable skills transformation are gradually being closed.

Holdinguphalfthesky · 26/04/2026 08:56

HRTFT (page one and current last page) but going back to the OP, I suggested my dc thinks about doing a degree for its own sake, rather than having a goal in mind (as at the moment she doesn’t know what she wants to do); then think about starting a business around a lifelong interest she has.

More broadly, I see AI as a threat to most creative and analytical professions, sadly, as pp have mentioned. The areas where I can’t see it being able to replace humans are things like caring jobs, work with vulnerable people and with animals, and things which have to be done in person like hairdressing. But I fear that for many communities, there will be mass unemployment as was seen in mining towns following the closure of the coal mines- that was devastating and I think this will be similar and much more widespread.

I personally think that government will be forced into offering a universal basic income, because most of the available jobs will be low-paid due to the competition for them. But without some sort of wholesale rethinking of how we find meaning and purpose in life, I really worry about the long term impact of AI.

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 08:41

You cannot be taken seriously if you misspell a key term in the debate three times.

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 08:30

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 26/04/2026 06:41

I'll take your opinion on the impact of AI on the creative industries seriously when you can spell copyright

Mumsnet is the only app on earth that doesn’t have spellcheck or autocorrect.

It doesn’t effect my AI knowledge in the slightest though 👍

StealthMama · 26/04/2026 08:27

Of course books are ‘used’ by LLMS, they are used to train the models. Though they don’t claim to store them like a library but may use to quote with citation. And yes this ‘should be’ with authorisation and consent from the author and if you have evidence that your work is being recreated in breach of your publishers contracts then you should find a lawyer.

its an emerging area granted, but the intent is for creators to be paid. The structure as to when and how is still being defined.

What is Anthropic allegedly doing with your work that is not within the existing boundaries of your contracts?

Chersfrozenface · 26/04/2026 08:25

Coverage of a campaign from the Guardian
"Thousands of authors publish ‘empty’ book in protest over AI using their work"

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/10/thousands-authors-publish-empty-book-protest-ai-work-copyright