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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 00:31

so am posting here because I’ve tried on other threads ( keep getting moved). In light of the last few days and what we’re learning. Testing on animals/ Beagles in the UK. I’m feeling heartbroken and have been so unaware. Anyone else?

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:53

There’s a camp to google at the end of MBR acres

I started other threads too under this username with more info

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:52

I’ve never posted on mums net before all this so am trying to figure it all out. I usually come on for light hearted reading! The irony

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AngryHerring · 23/04/2026 10:48

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:46

This is the issue - putting up a link will get the post moved

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well you could point indicators about what to google for eg.

In the FWS boards when we talk about gardening we have ways of conveying where the links are.

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:48

Also look up RIDGLAN farm US. They are loosing their license. But the dogs are trapped

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AngryHerring · 23/04/2026 10:47

personally I’ll accept it for cancer medication, for weight loss I find it abhorrent

but the weight loss is a side effect, and producing and refining the weight loss is also a side effect of what the actual drug was developed for.

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:46

AngryHerring · 23/04/2026 10:45

Beagles are bred and kept in dire situations - no heating on during winter, no cooling during scorching summers, no way to ever get outside and staff that leave them over the weekend with no-one looking after them other than security guards at the front gate.

no, i am not ok with that. Where is the campaign to stop it?

This is the issue - putting up a link will get the post moved

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:45

Yes they did this really quietly- no more protests outside Astra Zeneca etc. I read this.
Theres a lot to read on this subject tbf

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AngryHerring · 23/04/2026 10:45

Beagles are bred and kept in dire situations - no heating on during winter, no cooling during scorching summers, no way to ever get outside and staff that leave them over the weekend with no-one looking after them other than security guards at the front gate.

no, i am not ok with that. Where is the campaign to stop it?

AngryHerring · 23/04/2026 10:44

UpDownSplit · 23/04/2026 10:35

Yes test on people. Imagine being fine for unwilling monkeys to be used but willing human subjects who are paid is just a step too far. Fgs

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you'll be volunteering then? There is a reason that there isn't human testing in this way - much as we find it distressing and distasteful - how are you going to find healthy humans who will volunteer to be tested on, killed and then a post mortem so we can see if there was damage or not?

You'll be first in line for that? or will it be prisoners? or the poor and destitute who see no other way of making a bit of cash?

Dinosnorous · 23/04/2026 10:42

I think it’s a personal thing as to what you think is acceptable. But I can’t see how you can come to an informed decision by refusing to look at the cost of your choice.

personally I’ll accept it for cancer medication, for weight loss I find it abhorrent

Cheeks4970 · 23/04/2026 10:42

And you may wonder why they chose beagles for this? It's because they are docile and easy to torture.

In early 2026, the government changed the law so that there are stricter restrictions on protesting outside of animal torture facilities to try to squash the likes of Camp Beagle.

InLoveWithAI · 23/04/2026 10:42

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:38

Thank you. This is exactly it. Outdated knowledge/ understanding. I’m trying to educate myself in what actually is going on and for what purposes.

if you look at all your products in the home it will make you reassess. It’s not just about medication.

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I do only use cruelty free in all other areas.

I just didn't realise that with medication there are alternatives being created but at a snails pace.

AI could help with this, I am sure.

BillieWiper · 23/04/2026 10:41

Theresabatinmykitchen · 23/04/2026 00:51

I just can’t bear to read anything about animal cruelty and I admit I hide threads and and turn the tv over when those awful RSPCA adverts appear, I know it’s cowardly but the images haunt me and I find it really distressing, I try to help animals as much as I can in real life and volunteer for an animal charity, others may feel similar and maybe that’s why they don’t get traction because it’s just so awful?

The last round of adverts for the RSPCA had kittens and snails singing 'Respect'. They were kinda funny rather than depressing or disturbing.

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:41

I’m actually going to go and visit that camp and see for myself. There’s a trial end of this month

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:39

Cheeks4970 · 23/04/2026 10:38

For those asking what this is about and for those saying animal testing is ok, I think the original poster may be referring to MBR Acres in Huntingdon, UK who breeds beagles for them to be tortured in scientific experiments in other parts of the UK.

Follow Camp Beagle on any social media platform to educate yourselves - if we saw this kind of treatment elsewhere in the world, we would be horrified.

Beagles are bred and kept in dire situations - no heating on during winter, no cooling during scorching summers, no way to ever get outside and staff that leave them over the weekend with no-one looking after them other than security guards at the front gate.

You're ok with that? It's disgusting.

Thank you.

I’ve put more info on my other threads ( that were moved swiftly)

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:38

InLoveWithAI · 23/04/2026 10:31

I just wrote a post and deleted it.

I went and researched, my knowledge was out of date.

There are better alternatives being created. And I don't understand why the hold up. We showed in COVID that we can do medical shit pretty damn quick.

So yeah. While I can't stop taking my meds, this is abhorrent and alternatives should be sped up.

Thank you. This is exactly it. Outdated knowledge/ understanding. I’m trying to educate myself in what actually is going on and for what purposes.

if you look at all your products in the home it will make you reassess. It’s not just about medication.

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Cheeks4970 · 23/04/2026 10:38

For those asking what this is about and for those saying animal testing is ok, I think the original poster may be referring to MBR Acres in Huntingdon, UK who breeds beagles for them to be tortured in scientific experiments in other parts of the UK.

Follow Camp Beagle on any social media platform to educate yourselves - if we saw this kind of treatment elsewhere in the world, we would be horrified.

Beagles are bred and kept in dire situations - no heating on during winter, no cooling during scorching summers, no way to ever get outside and staff that leave them over the weekend with no-one looking after them other than security guards at the front gate.

You're ok with that? It's disgusting.

UpDownSplit · 23/04/2026 10:35

AngryHerring · 23/04/2026 10:10

I personally am ok with it. But there are several people on this thread who really didn't want to see those things.

The point pp was making "they are so like us" is the very reason the primates are used in testing. I wish it wasn't so, but what do we do instead? Test on people? who? are you going to volunteer?

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Yes test on people. Imagine being fine for unwilling monkeys to be used but willing human subjects who are paid is just a step too far. Fgs

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:33

Grew up in a different to location to you. Yes I knew about animal testing / body shop campaigns. I thought they’d phased out testing for cosmetics. Good for you knowing it all! I wonder knowing that for all these years, you must make excellent choices! You tell us all what we can do then?

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InLoveWithAI · 23/04/2026 10:31

I just wrote a post and deleted it.

I went and researched, my knowledge was out of date.

There are better alternatives being created. And I don't understand why the hold up. We showed in COVID that we can do medical shit pretty damn quick.

So yeah. While I can't stop taking my meds, this is abhorrent and alternatives should be sped up.

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:30

Exactly that - not knowing about this and now knowing changes things. I don’t take regular meds and of course I’m not judging anyone who does. I’m saying I didn’t know -firstly, what types of animals used in toxicity testing and in the UK. And secondly, the cruelty involved.

I’m starting a discussion, I don't have the answers. I also was feeling shocked and wanted to see what others thought. I just know I can make choices and share support organisations that are trying to initiate change.

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Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/04/2026 10:29

Silvercoconut · 23/04/2026 01:25

😱😱😱😱 I don't believe it is ever ever justified, EVER.

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So if you ever get heart disease or cancer or your child gets leukaemia, you'll refuse treatment? Because I guarantee you'll not be overly concerned about the fact that the drugs needed to keep you or your child alive have been tested in animals.

It's just a sad fact that animal testing is still needed.

PoliteSquid · 23/04/2026 10:23

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:19

and it’s the cruelty aspect. I want to do better in my choices for everything I buy. I had no idea we tested on dogs in the UK. And the breeding site. I’m nearly 50 and I had no idea. Yes I’m niave but I now can’t ‘unsee’ it

I’m the same age as you. Did you grow up in the UK? As a teenager there were loads and loads of anti-vivisection campaigns, there were stalls with graphic images and petitions to sign etc etc. The thing that shocks me most is that you’re claiming to have only just found out!

I lived quite close to Cambridge where there are loads of pharmaceutical research labs. It was well known there were all kinds of animals there, including beagles.

HollywentLightly · 23/04/2026 10:22

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:19

and it’s the cruelty aspect. I want to do better in my choices for everything I buy. I had no idea we tested on dogs in the UK. And the breeding site. I’m nearly 50 and I had no idea. Yes I’m niave but I now can’t ‘unsee’ it

So what medicines are you going to use in the future?

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 10:19

and it’s the cruelty aspect. I want to do better in my choices for everything I buy. I had no idea we tested on dogs in the UK. And the breeding site. I’m nearly 50 and I had no idea. Yes I’m niave but I now can’t ‘unsee’ it

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