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Animal cruelty - lack of support on threads

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 00:31

so am posting here because I’ve tried on other threads ( keep getting moved). In light of the last few days and what we’re learning. Testing on animals/ Beagles in the UK. I’m feeling heartbroken and have been so unaware. Anyone else?

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Queenhecate · 23/04/2026 14:15

HappyInTheSea · 23/04/2026 14:12

I so agree with you OP.

People are taking the hump because weight loss injections are testing on monkeys and dogs and those using the drugs don't like it when you point out how barbaric this is.

I thought ALL drugs were tested on animals? Are they not?

HappyInTheSea · 23/04/2026 14:12

I so agree with you OP.

People are taking the hump because weight loss injections are testing on monkeys and dogs and those using the drugs don't like it when you point out how barbaric this is.

Blimms · 23/04/2026 14:12

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 14:06

You started off commenting on this thread being rude and that’s all you’ve contributed. Arsey comments and nothing helpful

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Why are you so angry?

Queenhecate · 23/04/2026 14:11

I have an assistance dog. Hes trained and certified. Is that wrong now too?

titchy · 23/04/2026 14:10

FrizzyFrizbee · 23/04/2026 13:59

It’s horrendous OP. I looked at a scientific published paper just last week which was conducted by a company (not UK, but in Germany, though I think the UK has or did have an animal testing lab) to support a very well known vet administered pet flea treatment. It wasn’t enough, apparently, to test for efficacy against fleas.
The supposedly human beings who conducted this test euthanised the beagles afterwards in order to weigh organs.

Before anyone says to me “it must have been necessary“ , quite frankly I find this argument appalling. Imagine if human medicines were tested on caged humans who were then put to sleep and dismembered so their body parts could then be weighed.
It is completely revolting. I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that some people really are wicked and truly revolting specimens. I would like to see vets speaking out against this barbarism.

I refuse to buy products tested on animals.

Well someone on another thread is suggesting just that - that we use prisoners instead.

And that’s apparently more humane.

Nopenousername · 23/04/2026 14:08

Yes, it’s slightly off topic but it amazes me when people recommend on here (or any other SM to be honest) countless products tested on animals whilst owning pets themselves. The sheer ignorance and double standards make me very angry!

titchy · 23/04/2026 14:08

TheGoldenOwl · 23/04/2026 09:53

This is so upsetting. Who the fuck do we humans think we are.

That poor primate - they are really not that different to us.

Those images need to be plastered everywhere

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‘They are really not that different to us’.

Oh the irony you think this is a reason to stop. You need to make one more teeny tiny step in your logical thinking and then maybe the penny will drop.

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 14:07

Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/04/2026 14:04

😂I think, when you start posting arsey responses to your own posts, it's time to step away from the keyboard, OP!

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Yeah I couldn’t find how to delete that haha ( fair point)

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 14:06

Blimms · 23/04/2026 01:14

Generally, etiquette would dictate that you should include the details of what it is you want to discuss.

Providing a link and expecting people to go away and read it is just rude.

Surely, if you care so much you have lots to say about it?

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You started off commenting on this thread being rude and that’s all you’ve contributed. Arsey comments and nothing helpful

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Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/04/2026 14:04

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:40

Good for you

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😂I think, when you start posting arsey responses to your own posts, it's time to step away from the keyboard, OP!

Blimms · 23/04/2026 14:03

FrizzyFrizbee · 23/04/2026 13:59

It’s horrendous OP. I looked at a scientific published paper just last week which was conducted by a company (not UK, but in Germany, though I think the UK has or did have an animal testing lab) to support a very well known vet administered pet flea treatment. It wasn’t enough, apparently, to test for efficacy against fleas.
The supposedly human beings who conducted this test euthanised the beagles afterwards in order to weigh organs.

Before anyone says to me “it must have been necessary“ , quite frankly I find this argument appalling. Imagine if human medicines were tested on caged humans who were then put to sleep and dismembered so their body parts could then be weighed.
It is completely revolting. I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that some people really are wicked and truly revolting specimens. I would like to see vets speaking out against this barbarism.

I refuse to buy products tested on animals.

You’ve never taken any medication then?

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 14:03

Blimms · 23/04/2026 13:58

She can’t define it because she doesn’t really understand what it means. She’s simply throwing it about to try and shut people up.

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No that’s right as angry ferret says- I need to engage my brain

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Queenhecate · 23/04/2026 14:02

FrizzyFrizbee · 23/04/2026 13:59

It’s horrendous OP. I looked at a scientific published paper just last week which was conducted by a company (not UK, but in Germany, though I think the UK has or did have an animal testing lab) to support a very well known vet administered pet flea treatment. It wasn’t enough, apparently, to test for efficacy against fleas.
The supposedly human beings who conducted this test euthanised the beagles afterwards in order to weigh organs.

Before anyone says to me “it must have been necessary“ , quite frankly I find this argument appalling. Imagine if human medicines were tested on caged humans who were then put to sleep and dismembered so their body parts could then be weighed.
It is completely revolting. I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that some people really are wicked and truly revolting specimens. I would like to see vets speaking out against this barbarism.

I refuse to buy products tested on animals.

How do you do that when it comes to drugs?

FrizzyFrizbee · 23/04/2026 13:59

It’s horrendous OP. I looked at a scientific published paper just last week which was conducted by a company (not UK, but in Germany, though I think the UK has or did have an animal testing lab) to support a very well known vet administered pet flea treatment. It wasn’t enough, apparently, to test for efficacy against fleas.
The supposedly human beings who conducted this test euthanised the beagles afterwards in order to weigh organs.

Before anyone says to me “it must have been necessary“ , quite frankly I find this argument appalling. Imagine if human medicines were tested on caged humans who were then put to sleep and dismembered so their body parts could then be weighed.
It is completely revolting. I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that some people really are wicked and truly revolting specimens. I would like to see vets speaking out against this barbarism.

I refuse to buy products tested on animals.

Blimms · 23/04/2026 13:58

Queenhecate · 23/04/2026 13:57

Define it for me then and tell me how I am being cognitively dissonant. Please.

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She can’t define it because she doesn’t really understand what it means. She’s simply throwing it about to try and shut people up.

Queenhecate · 23/04/2026 13:57

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:49

You don’t understand cognitive dissonance then

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Define it for me then and tell me how I am being cognitively dissonant. Please.

Blimms · 23/04/2026 13:56

theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:50

I’ll be leaving this thread. I’m being rude because others are bloody rude. What a waste of time and energy

Yep, that figures.

Queenhecate · 23/04/2026 13:56

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what Do you want me to say?

i grew up lifting the dead ones in my granny’s chicken houses. See also calves being taken and the boy calves being sold. I worked the abbatoir the summer after school coz it paid the best. I didn’t give a shit about animal testing then either.

I know what happens.

now, I rarely eat meat and shop as sustainably as possible. I try to avoid animal products. But I take loads of pain killers, I get treatment for cancer, I have blood pressure meds, hrt, antidepressants. Moisturisers. Prescription ones. And probably more I’ve forgotten What am I supposed to do?

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:53

Swiftie1878 · 23/04/2026 09:00

Hard for people to support you when they have no clue what you’re talking about.

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Like you said you’ve no clue so you obvs don’t understand cognitive dissonance

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:50

I’ll be leaving this thread. I’m being rude because others are bloody rude. What a waste of time and energy

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Blimms · 23/04/2026 13:49

Swiftie1878 · 23/04/2026 13:44

There’s no need to be rude.

And you’re wrong. There’s no cognitive dissonance because there’s no conflict. If they value meds and how they contribute to society, some people accept animal testing as a necessary evil.

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I think the OP has run out of any logical argument so she is resorting to being rude and throwing about the term ‘cognitive dissonance’.

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:49

Swiftie1878 · 23/04/2026 13:44

There’s no need to be rude.

And you’re wrong. There’s no cognitive dissonance because there’s no conflict. If they value meds and how they contribute to society, some people accept animal testing as a necessary evil.

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You don’t understand cognitive dissonance then

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:48

Have you seen angryherrings comment to me ???

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Swiftie1878 · 23/04/2026 13:44

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There’s no need to be rude.

And you’re wrong. There’s no cognitive dissonance because there’s no conflict. If they value meds and how they contribute to society, some people accept animal testing as a necessary evil.

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theyhavenovoice · 23/04/2026 13:40

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Good for you

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