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Well am I? My ex is an absolute arse.

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Mostlywilliow · 22/04/2026 15:03

My ex is still outraged that I divorced him and then later met someone else AND kept the house AND am much happier. He is a study of coercive control and finally left when the police removed him.
The kids are 17, 16, 15 and he refuses to communicate with me at all about when he is seeing them. Doesn’t attend anything school or education related ever ever and pays just under the bare minimum CSA amount despite being on £150k conservatively. You get the picture. He’s moved an hour away by car.

I booked a holiday well over a year ago, before the term dates came out and got an amazing price because of the Early Bird element and a clause that said absolutely no changes, refunds, postponements, nothing.

Turns out the kids are in school that week so rather than lose the fortune it cost to book this for me and my partner, I have booked a DBS nanny/babysitter who has minded them before, to move in for the week.

This is apparently disgusting, awful, I’m a terrible selfish parent, etc all relaid via DC3 direct from his dad. He’s also started making what I consider to be vexatious complaints to social care, about whether I’m feeding them junk or home cooked food, why they get the bus to school (2 miles) instead of me driving them, why I redecorated one of the kids’ rooms as a surprise (which to be fair he hated), and now this. Apparently the kids are too young to be left with a “stranger” and are very upset and I should cancel. He won’t EVER tell me when he’s having the kids so I can’t plan things usually. I know he’s being utterly unreasonable by interfering in this way but he’s managed to upset the kids who are now complaining non stop about how they don’t want to be looked after by anyone. And yet if I left them home alone, which I wouldn’t do, that would be wrong too. Fed up.

OP posts:
Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 09:56

Are you in the US?

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 09:49

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/04/2026 00:57

The 17 year old doesnt need a sitter. But lets look at the alternative.

OP goes and leave 17 year old in charge. 15 and 16 year olds decide its a Good Idea to have a party while mum is away....except that they wont say that they will say that will just have a few friends over. And then word gets out and suddenly the 17 year old is "in charge" of a mob of teens with no one to help or back her/him up as Daddy clearly couldnt care less and lets face it, would probably revel in anything negative happening to @Mostlywilliow 's home.

Even a best case scenario is going to end with vomit, broken stuff, something nicked and the place looking like a very localised tornado went through it. Worst case scenario involves far worse.

This isnt about "babysitting" a 17 year old, its about making sure that a 17 year old isnt left being responsible for younger siblings with Good Ideas. Also, @Mostlywilliow knows her kids best. She knows if the younger siblings are likely to work together and get on, or start kicking off and doing what they want because "Mum isnt here and you can't stop me!" far better than we do.

With age and hindsight, the eldest will probably thank OP for doing it, not condemn her.

THIS! THIS!

OP posts:
Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 09:37

You’re in the US @Mostlywilliow

Presumably if you’re talking about CSA

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 09:35

This is apparently disgusting, awful, I’m a terrible selfish parent, etc all relaid via DC3 direct from his dad.

He’s also started making what I consider to be vexatious complaints to social care, about whether I’m feeding them junk or home cooked food, why they get the bus to school (2 miles) instead of me driving them, why I redecorated one of the kids’ rooms as a surprise (which to be fair he hated), and now this. Apparently the kids are too young to be left with a “stranger” and are very upset and I should cancel.

why did your dc tell you?! And he’s started contacting social services about what your 15,16 and 17 year old eat?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 23/04/2026 09:31

BlueMum16 · 23/04/2026 07:33

At any age I have no problem leaving them but this would depend on what else is going on in their lives at that time.

At 15 16 and 17 are they are school or college. I would expect at least one of them to be doing exams. When is the trip in relation to exams?

I would not leave my kids in the year 11 12 or 13 due to exam pressure. DD is in year 12 and actually has exams in May and June this year that go to her final grade.

This is true too. I was assuming this break was away from the exam period, eg that it’s beginning of Sept or something but sorry if I’ve missed something!

Edited - I can see now that this holiday clashes with a two week break - so not sure when that is!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 23/04/2026 09:30

Many people would leave the kids on their own at that age!

Your ex is clearly an absolute arse.

Edited as I hadn’t read all the many updates

nomas · 23/04/2026 09:27

Reallyneedsaholiday · 22/04/2026 21:36

I think you were unreasonable not to put all the relevant information in your OP, and drip feed it through the thread 😂
But having now got all the details, YANBU, although I’ve always made it a habit to head off these issues by offering my ex the chance to increase his time with his children, BEFORE making alternative childcare plans. It honestly saved me so much grief. He always said “no” but then had no leg to stand on when I carried on with my life, providing external suitable care for the children when I needed it.

The details WERE in the OP. What did you learn in the subsequent posts that changed your position?

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 09:27

Surprising that you didn’t check term dates! Not like they vary hugely from year to year!

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 09:26

How often do your kids see him?

I have booked a DBS nanny/babysitter who has minded them before, to move in for the week.

seems a touch OTT for this age group!

PUGMEISTER21 · 23/04/2026 08:37

Mostlywilliow · 22/04/2026 15:03

My ex is still outraged that I divorced him and then later met someone else AND kept the house AND am much happier. He is a study of coercive control and finally left when the police removed him.
The kids are 17, 16, 15 and he refuses to communicate with me at all about when he is seeing them. Doesn’t attend anything school or education related ever ever and pays just under the bare minimum CSA amount despite being on £150k conservatively. You get the picture. He’s moved an hour away by car.

I booked a holiday well over a year ago, before the term dates came out and got an amazing price because of the Early Bird element and a clause that said absolutely no changes, refunds, postponements, nothing.

Turns out the kids are in school that week so rather than lose the fortune it cost to book this for me and my partner, I have booked a DBS nanny/babysitter who has minded them before, to move in for the week.

This is apparently disgusting, awful, I’m a terrible selfish parent, etc all relaid via DC3 direct from his dad. He’s also started making what I consider to be vexatious complaints to social care, about whether I’m feeding them junk or home cooked food, why they get the bus to school (2 miles) instead of me driving them, why I redecorated one of the kids’ rooms as a surprise (which to be fair he hated), and now this. Apparently the kids are too young to be left with a “stranger” and are very upset and I should cancel. He won’t EVER tell me when he’s having the kids so I can’t plan things usually. I know he’s being utterly unreasonable by interfering in this way but he’s managed to upset the kids who are now complaining non stop about how they don’t want to be looked after by anyone. And yet if I left them home alone, which I wouldn’t do, that would be wrong too. Fed up.

He sounds like the blueprint for a narcissistic prick.

Tamtim · 23/04/2026 08:08

You’ve covered all bases. Go on your holiday and enjoy yourselves. I’m saying this as a parent who hasn’t been away without my kids.

Your ex is an arsehole.

BlueMum16 · 23/04/2026 07:33

At any age I have no problem leaving them but this would depend on what else is going on in their lives at that time.

At 15 16 and 17 are they are school or college. I would expect at least one of them to be doing exams. When is the trip in relation to exams?

I would not leave my kids in the year 11 12 or 13 due to exam pressure. DD is in year 12 and actually has exams in May and June this year that go to her final grade.

Madarch · 23/04/2026 07:18

Applesonthelawn · 22/04/2026 19:50

If your conscience were clear, you wouldn't be posting would you? You just want people to clear your conscience and you sound a bit miffed they haven't all done that.

Ummm... 82% think the OP is entirely reasonable.
There's apparently a very vocal 18% who think that no mother should ever have a separate identity from her teenagers.
That's pretty clear vindication for the OP

Gluedtogether · 23/04/2026 02:51

It's nuts the way people treat teenagers these days. They are not children and by that age should be perfectly able to look after themselves at home.
I suppose it's not allowed nowadays but at 14 I went with a friend the same age to Butlins for a week - just us. DH and 3 friends went on a package tour to Switzerland on their own at 14.
I can only assume that the OP doesn't trust them to be sensible.

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/04/2026 02:45

RoseField1 · 23/04/2026 02:40

All those questions are answered by reading the OP's posts.

Yep

Over It Ugh GIF
RoseField1 · 23/04/2026 02:40

LindorDoubleChoc · 23/04/2026 02:37

Regardless of whether your ex is an arse, you booked a holiday for you and your partner without considering your 3 children? How could you not know when they'd be in school? What difference does it make if they're in school or not anyway?

All those questions are answered by reading the OP's posts.

LindorDoubleChoc · 23/04/2026 02:37

Regardless of whether your ex is an arse, you booked a holiday for you and your partner without considering your 3 children? How could you not know when they'd be in school? What difference does it make if they're in school or not anyway?

Sladuf1 · 23/04/2026 01:19

@Mostlywilliow your ex is definitely an arse and so are some of the contributors to this thread!

I’m hoping I can give you some perspective that might be similar to how your children may see it. My father had minimal contact with me after my parents separated when I was 12 and there wouldn’t have been any suggestion of me staying in what was our old family home in this situation. He wouldn’t have looked in on me either. By the way he lived 10 mins down the road from where we’d moved to.

The age your children are I can guarantee they’re aware of the imbalance between what you do and what their Dad does.

So, it’s a school week for one thing. Most of the days you’ll be away they’re going to be at school/college anyway. The week will fly by.

What do they usually do on weekends? Sounds like marathon sessions on the PlayStation from one of your other posts. It’s by the by whether you’re there for that.

Your children are at an age where they’ll prefer doing their own thing. I bet they’ll have a great time while you’re away for the week, even if the babysitter is there.
I still remember the first time I stayed home and looked after the cat while Mum went on holiday for a fortnight - bloody loved the peace and quiet 😂!
Last family holiday I went on when I was 16 was hell. I wanted to do my own thing, felt like a spare wheel and after being told I was antisocial, I flipped and vowed to never go on a family holiday again.

Not surprised to read others have found when their children got to 15 they didn’t want to go on family holidays either, I think that’s the preference of most to be honest.

ChewbaccasMrs · 23/04/2026 01:14

Is there any other family member or family friends that could keep an eye on your teenagers for you?

For what it's worth your ex is being a dick and you've done nothing wrong.

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/04/2026 00:57

Groundhogday2025 · 23/04/2026 00:23

Honestly I’m not sure what I’m reading on this thread. Presumably the 17 year old will be closer to 18 if not 18 already by then… so old enough to drive, have a part time job, be going off to uni, join the armed forces, even be a parent themself but still needs a babysitter…

Just go on holiday. It sounds like it will be lovely. Unless I’m missing some special needs or behavioral problems with the “children” who are barely children then I’m not even sure why they need a nanny.

The 17 year old doesnt need a sitter. But lets look at the alternative.

OP goes and leave 17 year old in charge. 15 and 16 year olds decide its a Good Idea to have a party while mum is away....except that they wont say that they will say that will just have a few friends over. And then word gets out and suddenly the 17 year old is "in charge" of a mob of teens with no one to help or back her/him up as Daddy clearly couldnt care less and lets face it, would probably revel in anything negative happening to @Mostlywilliow 's home.

Even a best case scenario is going to end with vomit, broken stuff, something nicked and the place looking like a very localised tornado went through it. Worst case scenario involves far worse.

This isnt about "babysitting" a 17 year old, its about making sure that a 17 year old isnt left being responsible for younger siblings with Good Ideas. Also, @Mostlywilliow knows her kids best. She knows if the younger siblings are likely to work together and get on, or start kicking off and doing what they want because "Mum isnt here and you can't stop me!" far better than we do.

With age and hindsight, the eldest will probably thank OP for doing it, not condemn her.

AnotherName2025 · 23/04/2026 00:41

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 22/04/2026 18:42

OP should let them know that next year, they're all going to Butlins and she's reserved spots for them at the Kids Club and the Children's Disco. Better get them practising their moves for the Chichiwa! 😂

Yup 🤣🤣🤣

AnotherName2025 · 23/04/2026 00:40

Snowyowl99 · 22/04/2026 18:47

Of course it is . Leaving out the youngsters is not a good look

They've not been 'left out' they don't want to go.

but even if they did, their mum wouldn't be unreasonable taking a holiday without them.

'Not a good look' 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️😂😂🙇🏻‍♀️

Groundhogday2025 · 23/04/2026 00:23

Honestly I’m not sure what I’m reading on this thread. Presumably the 17 year old will be closer to 18 if not 18 already by then… so old enough to drive, have a part time job, be going off to uni, join the armed forces, even be a parent themself but still needs a babysitter…

Just go on holiday. It sounds like it will be lovely. Unless I’m missing some special needs or behavioral problems with the “children” who are barely children then I’m not even sure why they need a nanny.

ForCosyLion · 23/04/2026 00:05

Some of the replies on here! 🤣 The 1950s called and it wants its attitudes back!

OP, you clearly didn't receive the rulebook when you had children. Page 2,375, Section 3.27, paragraph 4 says: "Once you have produced the progeny of the Man, you may never again leave the cave for longer than is necessary for work or errands, lest you be cast into Hell at the point of your death for your transgressions against the purity of Motherhood. There is a pit of boiling oil especially for those Mothers who holiday without progeny who have not yet journeyed to adulthood at midnight 18 years past their birth. So think on, ye vile sluts, ye."

🤣🤣🤣

AllTheChaos · 22/04/2026 23:54

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 22/04/2026 18:22

The issue isn’t that they can’t cope for a week without her.

The issue is that she originally booked a holiday and because she didn’t bother to check the termtime dates she then decided to ditch the kids rather than move the dates or cancel the holiday.

As it is she will have lost thousands by not taking the kids with her.

A 16 and 17 year old don’t need a babysitter, although I’d be concerned about parties and drinking etc at that age. But when the holiday was originally booked with them in mind apparently, and they were ditched as soon as the OP realised she’d cocked up it was the kids who ended up paying the price.

And as a 17 year old I’d be thinking it was deliberate.

Certainly if someone posted here that they were all meant to be going on holiday and that because the person booking suddenly realised the dates were wrong which had they checked they would have known all along so the person couldn’t go, people would be telling the poster that was a deliberate move on their part.

Only if you read OP’s posts you will see that the children were never meant to be going in the holiday!

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