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Well am I? My ex is an absolute arse.

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Mostlywilliow · 22/04/2026 15:03

My ex is still outraged that I divorced him and then later met someone else AND kept the house AND am much happier. He is a study of coercive control and finally left when the police removed him.
The kids are 17, 16, 15 and he refuses to communicate with me at all about when he is seeing them. Doesn’t attend anything school or education related ever ever and pays just under the bare minimum CSA amount despite being on £150k conservatively. You get the picture. He’s moved an hour away by car.

I booked a holiday well over a year ago, before the term dates came out and got an amazing price because of the Early Bird element and a clause that said absolutely no changes, refunds, postponements, nothing.

Turns out the kids are in school that week so rather than lose the fortune it cost to book this for me and my partner, I have booked a DBS nanny/babysitter who has minded them before, to move in for the week.

This is apparently disgusting, awful, I’m a terrible selfish parent, etc all relaid via DC3 direct from his dad. He’s also started making what I consider to be vexatious complaints to social care, about whether I’m feeding them junk or home cooked food, why they get the bus to school (2 miles) instead of me driving them, why I redecorated one of the kids’ rooms as a surprise (which to be fair he hated), and now this. Apparently the kids are too young to be left with a “stranger” and are very upset and I should cancel. He won’t EVER tell me when he’s having the kids so I can’t plan things usually. I know he’s being utterly unreasonable by interfering in this way but he’s managed to upset the kids who are now complaining non stop about how they don’t want to be looked after by anyone. And yet if I left them home alone, which I wouldn’t do, that would be wrong too. Fed up.

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FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 23/04/2026 12:19

AmbeeBambee · 23/04/2026 12:14

but the holiday was booked with the kids originally?

No it wasn’t. Read the updates.

YourShyLion · 23/04/2026 12:19

I don't agree with him but I do think you should have checked the dates and not booked until you'd made sure the kids could go too. Our school holidays are on the council website at least 18 months to 2 years in advance.

Either way, you don't leave your children.

Lunaticmess · 23/04/2026 12:17

Your kids are all nearly adults. My parents went to the US for two weeks and left my older sibling and me when I was fourteen, and he was seventeen. No drama at all. I can see why your kids don't want a nanny, but it's either that or have the 17-year-old step up and look after them all. Which would they prefer? Your ex's concerns shouldn't even feature in this. Complete non-starter. It's hardly like you're leaving toddlers.

I must be a really terrible parent because my kids walk to school. They prefer it to the bus. It absolutely doesn't hurt to teach them some independence at this age. Your ex is being a knob. And I absolutely agree that social services will laugh in his face if he considers your behaviour disgusting. He must have zero concept of some of the things that go on in parentally abusive homes.

AmbeeBambee · 23/04/2026 12:17

Bloodycrossstitch · 22/04/2026 15:49

I agree, very very few teenagers would be happy about being told they’re staying at home with a babysitter instead of going on a holiday that they were already told they were going on. I don’t think this is down to their dad this time. He does sound like an arse generally though.

If I was being left with a grandparent as a teen or someone, I'd be grumpy about it but to be left with a stranger who is DBS checked but could be an absolute psycho and just never showed it yet, would have terrified me.

AmbeeBambee · 23/04/2026 12:14

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 22/04/2026 15:30

Because parents are allowed time away from their kids…

but the holiday was booked with the kids originally?

LadyDanburysHat · 23/04/2026 12:09

I agree OP that these threads show how it is women more than anyone who knock other women down.

Bad parenting for taking a weeks holiday and not supporting your DC at school. 3 teens are perfectly capable of having a week without their parent.

Heaven forbid you enjoy yourself at all, you must be a martyr to your DC at all times. DH and I went away last year for 4 days, we left our 17 and 14 year olds home alone, they went to school and work, made their own meals, even looked after the cat. Obviously we are appalling parents for this. Just to note they did have a 22 year old brother checking in on them, and they are not the mad party type.

Edit to add, enjoy your holiday

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UnctuousUnicorns · 23/04/2026 11:55

DD (now 16, nearer 17) missed out on her school PGL trip due to lockdown. When things opened up again, we sent her - with her consent! - on a three day trip with them, one of the "Adventure Holiday" types, where you drop your child off and they leave their case in a dormitory where they'll be sharing with seven other complete strangers for their stay, and doing activities, all with kids they've not met.

Baptism of fire maybe, but when we picked her up she asked to go for longer next time. She did a few more week long trips of this type while DH and I stayed nearby, so if she'd really hated it or really misbehaved and been barred she could have come to stay with us. She never did. She relished in telling the tales of miscreants who were sent home in disgrace and banned for a year, though. 😅

These trips were in the Spring, while DD spent the summer holidays with us. I think they helped to foster independence in her, and as I've said, she's been more than happy to be left at home on her own since she was fifteen, and now has no wish whatsoever to come away with us. She had the house to herself for a week earlier this month, and will enjoy another ten days in July when DH and I go neglecting our poor unloved baby gallivanting off again.

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 11:44

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 09:27

Surprising that you didn’t check term dates! Not like they vary hugely from year to year!

Edited

I think I may have pointed out that I booked it before the term dates came out. And you’re quite right, they don’t vary much. But they varied by one week this time.

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sallymonella · 23/04/2026 11:03

Have a great holiday OP! Your ex is a twat. I've got one of those too.

Bearness · 23/04/2026 10:44

Hurrah to finding a partner (5 years ago!) and what sounds like a wonderful holiday!
Hurrah to being sensible and booking a DBS adult who is known to the children!
Hurrah to buying out idiot ex
Hurrah to great parenting.

Booooo to people trying to shame you for daring to spend 7 days out of your children’s lives. Your eldest has been alive for approx 6200 days and you are taking 7 days away from him/her.

Booooo to idiot ex who doesn’t pay his way nor spend time with his children.

Have a wonderful, guilt free time away!

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 10:35

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 10:11

These kids sounds quite close to him

They are. Because much as I’d be delighted if he was beamed up to another galaxy, I happen to think their relationship with him is important and I also want to make sure that I am never the excuse he can give about why he doesn’t see them as often as he should. They love him, and I suppose he loves them. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t a spectacular twat to me.

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Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 10:33

Groundhogday2025 · 23/04/2026 10:26

Well obviously you know best whether your younger two are responsible enough to be left with their adult sibling. From the sounds of it they aren’t, in which case yes, a babysitter of some description makes sense. I know you say they’ve had this nanny before but I’m not sure a hired nanny with no parental responsibility would really be able to prevent an out of hand teenage house party any more than the eldest could, so I hope he or she is someone they will listen to and respect enough not to start inviting people over.

But yes, ex is an arse. I think you have a right to go on holiday without “children” that age who probably would hate every second of it anyway. But I probably wouldn’t go if my children weren’t trustworthy enough to manage a week without house parties and burning the house down. But if your ex is so concerned he could always have them for the week instead. Doubt he would, so he can pipe down really.

This particular lady gives off a very kind but authoritative vibe and whilst being very pleasant, will not be trifled with.

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Groundhogday2025 · 23/04/2026 10:26

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 09:49

THIS! THIS!

Well obviously you know best whether your younger two are responsible enough to be left with their adult sibling. From the sounds of it they aren’t, in which case yes, a babysitter of some description makes sense. I know you say they’ve had this nanny before but I’m not sure a hired nanny with no parental responsibility would really be able to prevent an out of hand teenage house party any more than the eldest could, so I hope he or she is someone they will listen to and respect enough not to start inviting people over.

But yes, ex is an arse. I think you have a right to go on holiday without “children” that age who probably would hate every second of it anyway. But I probably wouldn’t go if my children weren’t trustworthy enough to manage a week without house parties and burning the house down. But if your ex is so concerned he could always have them for the week instead. Doubt he would, so he can pipe down really.

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 10:11

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 10:08

He stuck it in a big letter via his solicitor. I complained because he was getting one of the kids to video the contents of the fridge and send it to him. Like I say, coercive control personified.

These kids sounds quite close to him

Fromage · 23/04/2026 10:11

OP I have only your posts - I like your style. Excellent responses to the judgypants brigade - I wonder how many of them have teenagers? Or how many have YOUR teenagers?

A good dad would jump at the chance of having the kids an extra week. If the shoe were on the other foot, and you were posting you only saw your kids EOW but the ex has demanded you have them for a week when he goes on holiday because he messed up the dates, and you said AIBU to refuse to look after my own children, what do we all imagine the response would be?

So much misogyny etc.

They have an adult they know in the house, puely to prevent Good Ideas (and worse, the Brilliant Plan) so that you have an actual home to come back to. Instead of your own pile of, well, ruin. The irony.

Have a great holiday!

BillieWiper · 23/04/2026 10:08

Mostlywilliow · 22/04/2026 18:13

He won’t use apps. He wouldn’t attend mediation. He finally stepped up to some bits of the consent order he was ignoring when I said I’d only be communicating via his solicitor at £150 a pop. But now it’s all via the kids.

Gawd he certainly is an arse. I hope things improve for you x

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 10:08

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 10:06

To whom has he reported concerns re junk food?

He stuck it in a big letter via his solicitor. I complained because he was getting one of the kids to video the contents of the fridge and send it to him. Like I say, coercive control personified.

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Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 10:06

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 10:05

You say CSA

No one in the UK would use this term

Oh I just did. I meant CMS. I am old, old. I still call the cinema “the pictures.”

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Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 10:06

To whom has he reported concerns re junk food?

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 10:05

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 09:57

No, why?

You say CSA

No one in the UK would use this term

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 10:02

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 23/04/2026 09:59

My teen (17) would adore the sort of holiday you have planned!

In fact we’re planning to go interrailing (but Scandinavia) plus dc2 (will be 13 when we go) next year!

Arent teens/ young adults the main market for inter railing/ travelling holidays?

Edited

Not whilst sharing with mum and her chap! I’m sure there are teens somewhere who would love it. But not mine.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 23/04/2026 09:59

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 09:56

That’s very kind of you to consider this but thankfully we are all ok on these fronts. We are found a posh version of interrailing sort of, to northern Italy and then taking in some areas which are eastern med and northern Adriatic, and then (fuel allowing!) flying home from Dubrovnik. I can’t bloody wait. I have new walking boots I’m hoping are broken in in time. It’s hard to think of a more teen-unfriendly holiday though!

My teen (17) would adore the sort of holiday you have planned!

In fact we’re planning to go interrailing (but Scandinavia) plus dc2 (will be 13 when we go) next year!

Arent teens/ young adults the main market for inter railing/ travelling holidays?

Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 09:57

Littlebigtoe · 23/04/2026 09:56

Are you in the US?

No, why?

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Mostlywilliow · 23/04/2026 09:56

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 22/04/2026 23:26

Hi @Mostlywilliow, I have only read all of your posts so far, so I'm sorry if anyone else has posted along similar lines to me; my concern is actually for you. You say you will be holidaying in the Eastern Mediterranean area, is that not where, or at least near to where, so much of the recent conflict is happening? Does the Foreign Office say that it is still safe to be holidaying in that area, and even if it is still considered to be safe enough, because your destination isn't actually that near to all the fighting, will the airlines still be honouring all of their flights now?

I am asking you, because the chance of any quick resolutions to the conflicts, seems to be lessening by the day, or even by mere hours? Therefore, the airlines must surely be considering, and be concerned about, whether the availability of enough fuel, and the potential/likely costs of such fuel, is going to have to make them cancel most, if not all, of their upcoming flights? I do hope that you and your Dear Partner, can still go safely there - I'm trying to not split an infinitive here, but I've probably not managed not to, or if I have succeeded there, then I've almost certainly broken a lot of other grammatical rules instead - and have a wonderful time together, and come back both refreshed, and well, ahem, 'exercised' 🤭

That’s very kind of you to consider this but thankfully we are all ok on these fronts. We are found a posh version of interrailing sort of, to northern Italy and then taking in some areas which are eastern med and northern Adriatic, and then (fuel allowing!) flying home from Dubrovnik. I can’t bloody wait. I have new walking boots I’m hoping are broken in in time. It’s hard to think of a more teen-unfriendly holiday though!

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