AIBU to think most women wouldn't recognise a decent man?

I could understand "decent" guys being a bit peeved about the "I love a bad boy" trope.

I'd think any sensible woman would be skeptical about a man whose mate is determined he's "decent", but the best thing they can say about him is he's a model.

And any decent man would recognise she was right to be cautious.

I know lots of decent, good men. And none of them would want me to be anything but sceptical meeting a stranger for a date. Otherwise I’m putting myself at risk as he could be anyone.
You clearly have no idea how women have to behave because of the behaviour of some men. We don’t know who the good ones are when we meet them, but any decent man should have enough awareness and emotional intelligence to understand that.
Probably for the best that these ones have given up on dating.

So if they're indifferent to women but not celibate, they must be gay. That'll be why they're not gelling with women.
That's that solved!

Inwardly?

OP, you keep saying that we have proved your friends rights as if that’s some kind of gotcha.

You don’t seem to have caught on yet that we don’t actually give a shit about what your incel mates think.

We’re actually just inwardly laughing at them and you

I said have incel mentality, not are incels.
Its a specific way of viewing women.

What is your agenda here?

Are we supposed to fall over ourselves to stroke the egos of some random men you claim you're with right now? Convince them we are nice women who would want them? Justify ourselves? Apologise for mean women? Or for being women?

Any man who sneers and claims women cant recognise decent men is not a decent man
Decent men dont sneer about women.

Your friends are dickheads and so are you.
I mean, I haven't even met them and I can tell just from your description.
So no, women CAN recognise a decent man, it's just that your friends don't qualify.

No they haven’t.

You presented an argument that couldn’t be won. We either agree with you, in which case, your friends are right. Or we disagree with you, in which case you’ve decided we’ve proven your friends right. If they use the same bollocks logic you use, then it’s no wonder women don’t want to be with them.

Women exist in a misogynistic and abusive society- we don’t just exist in the home we encounter this shit everywhere! Women don’t owe your friends their time or their bodies- maybe start inward with the psychological assessment

Sounds like they problem is they have incel mentality.

Theres no way to have any sort of conversation with such men. They are convinced they are victims and mean nasty women don't recognise their greatness.

The truth is that decent men find women while men who insist they are decent men and the problem is ungrateful women don't.

But don't waste your breath relaying this to them.

They need to believe women are the problem because they don't want to face the facts. They are not the type of men women want and they can insist they're decent all they want but I guarantee ten minutes chatting with them and women would sniff out the bullshit.

I'll bet they are just the bestest men ever, and all those evil women don't pay them any attention. Not even the model. Don't even care that they have money and houses.

Must really suck to be such a nice guy and not get the attention from women they so clearly deserve.

I'm sorry but when you said: 'And one is a model'!!!

As if we should fall at his feet... is truly pathetic. It sounds like you (because you're a man) and your mates don't have a brain cell to rub together.

Women ARE cynical around men like you because you have more red flags than Wales playing rugby at home.

I know a fair few single men, none of them blame women for the reason they are single. Thank goodness too or they wouldn't be my friends.

My theory is that women who grow up with decent men as role models have a much better radar and can tell the good and bad apart.

It’s harder for women who grew up with shitty role models. People tend to feel comfortable at a deep level with familiarity, and also being with a truly decent partner can bring all sorts of things to the surface of the psyche before they’re ready to process them.

Do you mean these three guys dated a while, but were unsuccessful and have now given up? That’s fine if they are happy to remain single.

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can’t miss em! He’s not at clever as he believes he is though - he was spotted straight away

The game? Half time? OP You are not playing a game and "us ladies" are not play things for your entertainment or amusement.

<unwatching this thread as the red flag bunting is clearly visible>

OP, you seem to have taken a wrong turn on your way to the manosphere.

Yup. Just another common or garden incel coming onto a women's forum to complain about nobody wanting to touch his peepee.

If women are sceptical towards them then that sounds like something they need to prove wrong. Put some effort in and show women they're as decent as you claim they are. Showing "indifference" towards sceptical women just looks a bit incely to me. Or should women just accept they're nice guys because they have decent jobs and a nice car?

You’re doing a lot of listing of ‘things’ these men you know have (good jobs, own cars, own place are three of your examples) but there’s nothing on personality. Are they kind? Funny? Interesting? Thoughtful? Are they realistic about how much of a catch they actually are when chatting up beautiful women, because quite a few men online sit there typing things such as ‘Margot Robbie is nothing special.’