To think that 'red pill, incel, Andrew Tate' content is being pushed to groom men into joining the military for forthcoming wars?

YABVU

Ridiculous. Incels and men like the Tates are obviously utterly insecure about their masculinity, after all real men don't bully or punch down on people weaker than themselves, real men help those who need it and will step up if needed, whereas the sad flabby men like incels and misogynists are craven cowards who will hide in their mums' basements. Utter rubbish I'm afraid, that type of man is utterly useless.

There is a Traditional Values visa so I'm guessing more families go than incels but then I did see videos about men (who did not appear to have partners) fighting too.

I bet they regretted going to Russia pretty damn quickly though!

I still can’t get over the fact they pay for the abuse. At least in the military you would get trained/sone skills and pay. You’d think so and I hope so but then there are some who left to Russia and were forced into the military following this odd pipeline.

It’s one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard in my entire life.

I’ve seen a lot of incels and none of them strike me as prime military calibre warriors.

I also think people have an odd view of future wars. The days of thousands of infantrymen marching on the enemy is over.

They know those bootcamps are just temporary though. Its one thing to spend a couple of weeks being shouted at and thinking you'll be a bigger man at the end than it is to commit to being shouted at for a lot longer and not be able to just quit and go home if they don't like it. Plus the chance that their superior officers will be female.

You would think so but they pay to be told what to do. The whole Tate academy was such a scam but these guy pay to go to bootcamps to be shouted at.

It is all a guise, these guys are incredibly submissive to anyone they think is more powerful/richer than them. They have incredibly heirarchical mindsets.

God no, none of those Andrew Tate worshippers would last in the military, being told what to do and having to do it - they think of themselves as alpha males who should be giving orders not taking them, and there's a good chance they will be ordered about by women which they will find even harder to take.

The Andrew Tate style nonsense is just plain old misogyny, there's no deeper meaning to it.

No. They don't take "who signs up"

They conscript. Forcing men to go to the front line and fight and die to protect a country and its inhabitants. I.e. you.

Think of that next time you reel off your misandrist comments about how soldiers = misogynists.

It's one area where I rarely hear about the need for equality. We advocate for equality in the army when it's peacetime and it's all about training exercises and sports and see the world...

...but when it comes to "time to die for your country"...

Then we seem to expect all that toxic masculinity to just burst forth and save women having to go to the front line.

Anyone who listens to Andrew Tate and is influenced by them is only fit to be cannon fodder.

To add YANBU. I think that is part of the aim. Hence the strict adherence to gender roles and the promise that these men (who return) will be entitled to submissive young women on their return (perhaps with less competition from other men who are now dead). In reality though many will not be able to cut it or self preservation will kick in.

Supposedly there are incels paying extortionate amounts for these masculinity bootcamps (paying for men to shout at and humiliate them).

In the US there were people willingly moving to Russia to be less "woke" and ending up in the army (not sure if that was by choice though or an own goal).

Saw on Tiltok & 100% agree.

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There in demonstrating the issue with TikTok/SM in general. People seeing one thing and believing what they say is spot on, without any critical thinking. The sort of thinking that has made Andrew Tate successful with certain groups of boys.

Those guys will be the ones hiding out in someone’s home gym in Marbella when shit goes down. The thought they’re being prepped to fight for their country is hilarious.

You actually think a grown man who refers to himself as HStikytoky (I can’t be arsed to look up the spelling) and whines at his “mummy” about his juice bar is a good candidate for the front line? We’re all fucked if he is.

Nah, not plausible. If you ever want to try and figure out underlying reasons for stuff like this, just follow the money. They post incel content because it makes them a lot of money. That’s literally the whole reason behind it (also they are cunts)

If you’ve spent any time around them you would know that they are.

Jesus Christ!!!!

The majority of the followers of Andrew Tate probably wouldn’t make it past the signing up form. What label would you attach to woman joining up?

Since when did Tik Tok become home to well thought out conversation pieces? Pssst, it hasn’t. It’s a place for ill thought ideas packaged for the gullible.

Utter bollocks

Coming from a mum of a junior soldier currently in training for the army, and based on a good overview of the young men and women who are training alongside him

Of course there are always a few idiots - but the army will weed most of them
out. The vast majority are joining for skills, travel, camaraderie, great salary/benefits etc.

Once they do pass out after phases 1 and 2, then go to unit; when not at war they are mostly utilised in peace-keeping or rebuilding after conflicts or natural disasters

I suggest you do more actual research and less mindless TikTok scrolling

I dont think that is the purpose of that tik tok content. It is all about likes and money. I actually think the 'manosphere' side that pushes hatred of women could speak against it. More of a 'see you were a second rate citizen and now the nasty women want you to go die so they can pick top men and eat cake'

I do think we will start to see a push for people to join the armed forces but initially they will want the right type of people for the roles they want. I dint think women hating makes a good soldier and I dont think the army wants to recruit on the basis of hatred of women.

You give them too much credit. It’s literally about likes (adulation/adoration feeding the ego) and money .

Utter rubbish. Since the 1990s women have been able to serve in front line units. So Master nicely will have a female sergeant or chief petty officer yelling at him from day one in basic training. He will serve under female senior NCOs along side female peers who will be as good or better than him. A good chance his senior officers will be female too.

People join the armed forces for a lot of reasons - training to get skills in electronics, engineering, avionics, catering and logistics. Yes, you get to fire weapons - some gels even enjoy blasting a killer tomato with a 40mm cannon.

People accept it are keen to join to preserve the peace, travel and learn. Your "raging Rambo" or "only incel" would last a short time.

Thank you OP. You've just confirmed my belief that Tik Tok is full of nonsense.

We’re already in WW3

It’s based on access to resources and technology

No

Quite