Drinking on the Saturday night train?

I love a few train tinnies on a girls night out.

If you are to ban alcohol then you need it not just to be on the trains. No sales on the stations for starters.

It might be less if more football matches were 3pm kick offs, which are now a rarity in the Premier League and fewer in other divisions. At least without early evening kick offs, many fans would have left in the early evening.

ah ye olde vomit comet

“Nervous Nerris”

So patronising.

Being in a confined space with drunk, loud, rowdy men chanting and shouting, not observing personal space - some of whom are likely coked up - who do not have ANY self awareness, consideration for others, or even think how it might be uncomfortable for the people around them and you write “Nervous Nerris”?

Was it you on my train? Because how can you be here defending such yobbish behaviour.

When you let people drink on the train that's what you get im in Australia and it's illegal here always has been

How depressing. I spent a month in Lisbon as a student many years ago and stag parties are not something I associate with my time there at all. I'm guessing this change just may have something to do with Lisbon's explosion in popularity with foreign tourists.

I'm sure many on here would think it's great that more and more cities outside the UK are getting to experience the fun of our drinking culture.

Why are you sneering at pp for being nervous, when clearly you're describing an altogether milder, safer and more wholesome journey than the ones being discussed on the thread? People are describing sexual harassment and violence, vomiting and urinating in the aisles. Not a jolly encounter with some mild mannered chaps behaving like gentlemen.

Alright Nervous Nerris. It's never been like that in my experience. People are generally really kind to him, striking up conversation with him, even after a few drinks. Maybe especially after a few drinks. Most recent was a train packed to the rafters with Northampton rugby fans. Lovely people and very funny.

late night trains were just like this as far back as I can remember going back to the early 1970s. I wouldn’t expect any different if I chose a train on a Saturday night.

I don’t entirely disagree with you but I wouldn’t pick Lisbon as my utopia either. Endless stag parties and offered drugs more times than I ever have in the UK on both occasions I’ve been and I’m pretty sure I don’t look the type.

Part of the reason I love holidays abroad is that you can go out late without dealing with antisocial behaviour. I don't want to be tucked up in bed at 9:30 because I want to be out myself - I just don't want to deal with screeching, yelling and threatening, intrusive behaviour.

The comments on here prove your last point. It's all seen as part of the 'fun', despite the fact it's fun that excludes a lot of us.

Having been humiliated and threatened by a group of drunk men on a train years ago, I'm not really seeing the 'jollity'.

Except it doesn't cos how do yo u think you'll enforce tvat ban? You'll need conductors on the train doors refusing entry to people or removing alcohol once on the train or removing people from the train

Which is lovely if the entertainment you chose for your primary aged child is profanity, the potential for violence and sexual harassment I guess 🙄🤨

And when those conductors are harmed by the drunken louts shouting and being rowdy? What then? Banning alcohol at least removes some of the risk

This sort of thing has become normalised as evidenced by many of the comments on here. It shouldn’t be but trains and town centres have been surrendered to drunks. Was in Lisbon last year lots of people out and about late at night having a great time. No drunks, no violence, lovely safe atmosphere for everybody. We’ve lost it here and it’s never coming back.

I enjoy those trains. The sports fans have always amused my DS10.

I don’t think it should be banned but I do think there should be a presence of conductors or similar on the train. Just do that people know it isn’t entirely “anything goes”. Someone with a direct quick line to police at the next station if anyone kicks off or is aggressive.

I think that’s the issue - the potential for people to turn aggressive and nothing you can do about it.

No, it really isn't. I've never caught a train full of commuters shouting, swearing, forcing their unwanted attention on women, vomiting, using the vestibule as a urinal, playing their crappy music at top volume and bellowing raucous and often sexist/racist chants. People who moan about commuter trains being busy are unreasonably moaning about the existence of other people on the train. People moaning about the Saturday trains are reasonably complaining about the behaviour of other people on the train.

I get it, it’s annoying. But the trains sell alcohol so it’s not banned. The vapes you should report as they can be arrested.

I no longer drink at all and it really highlights the issues this nation has with drunkenness and alcohol. It’s disgusting.

So it's ok if my husband objects to drunkards swearing and shouting all over the train, stumbling about into tables, and middle aged drunk women coming on to young lads? But if women don't like it, we're the the problem?
. If you can't control your drinking, you are the problem. If you choose to be anti, you are the problem. See a theme?

Yeah, I went to a bar or a club, I didn't expect public transport to be the party venue. Why should peopel have to cut short their plans cos you want to party on a train?

Yanbu op. I come back from Liverpool late o na Saturday occasionally and just accept that it's gonna be full of drunk men. It's normally good natured but it only takes ones idiot, and I'm quite good at ignoring it all with my head in a book. But then I'm mid 40s and overweight so I don't get hit on thank god. I wouldn't want to be 20 years younger and hotter and shyer.

But it isn't just Sat night. If we time our holiday wrong, the train to Chester Races is the same, any train even going TO the footie so any time of day is the same.

Just drink at home and then when you get there.

Love a party train EXCEPT when it's one with football fans.

So many fond memories of the Shoreditch to New Cross party line, and love to see that it's still the same now as the overground.

Very rude & misogynist comment.