Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to stop updating my brother when he only judges me

43 replies

Meeko505 · 18/04/2026 13:39

Growing up my older brother was the golden child and I was the scapegoat, and it feels like that dynamic has never changed. He’s late 30s with two children and I am mid 30s with four children, we don’t live near each other and we have generally only seen each other in person as adults when I have travelled either to him or parents visit.

He shows very little interest in my life or my kids’ lives, never asking after us and even sometimes just ignoring messages when I’ve tried to share news with him about my children. But he will update me on his kids when I ask after them, which is something I’ll be sad to lose by going zero contact. He’s also always been very dismissive and rude to me, and this just doesn’t seem like it will ever change. He makes judgemental comments about my choice to have four children, and makes “jokes” that imply I’m a bad parent. For context, I’m married, we have a nice house and a nice life, we’re financially comfortable, stable, I don’t really feel like he has any reason to look down on me like this. I’m happy with my life, but every time I speak to him I feel like I’m not good enough. A few years ago I actually pointed this out to him and he said something like, “well, you have to admit you had a lot of promise when you were younger and haven’t really lived up to that”. I guess because I was very academic but I’m now a SAHM. But I was never ambitious and we don’t need me to work so what business is it of his?

I am just tired of this dynamic. I get nothing out of this relationship and most times I try to message my brother I just feel upset. I feel like if I stopped messaging him we wouldn’t speak for months or even a year, and I’m starting to think maybe I should just stop trying to even update him on my life at all - like even if we move, had a baby, whatever? It makes me feel a bit unreasonable to not give him news like that but he never says anything nice and I am starting to feel like he doesn’t deserve any updates. I think he would be annoyed with me for not telling him, but only because he feels entitled to know and not because he cares iykwim.

AIBU? And why do you think my brother hates me 😭

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Iatethelastbiscuit · 21/04/2026 08:54

And why would he think she’s unhinged? He’s her brother

Iatethelastbiscuit · 21/04/2026 08:53

MayaPinion · 21/04/2026 07:42

Oh lakes, don’t do that. He won’t care and he’ll think you’re unhinged. Just let him be and stop trying to engage him. He’s not interested.

Most people, unless they’re complete sociopaths, do love and care about their siblings deep down, whether they like them or make any effort with them is beside the point. Point is people need to be called out on shitty behaviour if they have any hope of one day changing that behaviour. He needs to know the end of their relationship was HIS fault and a result of his behaviour. It may make him reflect on it and not be such a dick in future, it may not. Worth a shot though

BooneyBeautiful · 21/04/2026 08:46

iamfedupwiththis · 18/04/2026 15:20

I’d write him a long text/email explaining how he’s hurt you and how awful his behaviour’s been towards you and the negative impact he’s had on your life - he deserves to feel bad about it

If someone sent me a text, letter like this I would think they were unstable and as for him feeling bad, he won't - he has no interest in maintaining a relationship so why would this bother him??

OP just needs to stop pursuing a relationship that isn't there

I agree. A letter/text smacks of desperation and shows the brother his behaviour is affecting OP which is of course what he wants, albeit on a subliminal level. Much better to just stop bothering with him.

Waggydoggy · 21/04/2026 08:12

Meeko505 · 18/04/2026 14:52

One thing I will just add is that we don’t really have parents. There is only one left and they are not very involved with either of us.

I would say your brother is modelling what your parent is doing. Not being very involved.

Personally I have a brother that is similar. All talk. No action. Very dismissive of presents I buy. So contact is minimal. I don't expect anything of him and I'm not disappointed. I put my energy into the people who are positive in my life. That doesn't include him.

MayaPinion · 21/04/2026 07:42

Iatethelastbiscuit · 18/04/2026 15:11

He sounds like a complete bellend. I’d write him a long text/email explaining how he’s hurt you and how awful his behaviour’s been towards you and the negative impact he’s had on your life - he deserves to feel bad about it. Then I’d say you no longer wish to be in contact. You don’t want him to end up feeling like you’re the lazy one if you go nc without saying anything, or for him to feel like he’s done nothing wrong and feel superior, cos it sounds like he thinks of himself as superior enough already

Oh lakes, don’t do that. He won’t care and he’ll think you’re unhinged. Just let him be and stop trying to engage him. He’s not interested.

AxolotlEars · 21/04/2026 07:30

Iatethelastbiscuit · 18/04/2026 15:11

He sounds like a complete bellend. I’d write him a long text/email explaining how he’s hurt you and how awful his behaviour’s been towards you and the negative impact he’s had on your life - he deserves to feel bad about it. Then I’d say you no longer wish to be in contact. You don’t want him to end up feeling like you’re the lazy one if you go nc without saying anything, or for him to feel like he’s done nothing wrong and feel superior, cos it sounds like he thinks of himself as superior enough already

If you write to him, it will be used as 'evidence' that you are the problem. He won't understand or see it from your perspective. He has been groomed by family dynamics to be in this role and it's hard, not impossible, to give it up.

PloddingAlong21 · 21/04/2026 07:04

You would not tolerate this treatment from friends or colleagues. Why accept it from a sibling? Cut him off.

Laurmolonlabe · 20/04/2026 22:08

My brother is quite like this- go very low contact, but not no contact.
Life changes a great deal as the years go on , he may come around in the end.

LazyTiger26 · 20/04/2026 20:50

Ye one of my brothers is like that and I gave up running after....happy with my daily contact with all my other siblings tho

Bonbon21 · 20/04/2026 20:29

If someone does not bring light into your life, don't give them space.
No extra points just because he is family.. that was just an accident of birth.

OneNewEagle · 20/04/2026 19:59

FlorianTV · 20/04/2026 19:09

I think when you come to realise that if you don’t message someone first, you will never hear from them again - that kind of says it all. Why bother putting effort in when it’s not reciprocated. As sad as it is, if someone doesn’t care about you, they don’t care about you. Stop reaching out and enjoy your life.

perhaps still send things for the children, presents, cards, write letters etc. But withdraw from him.

I agree that’s what I’ve been doing.

OneNewEagle · 20/04/2026 19:59

Relationships with siblings are so hard, all of mine are now very very LC with me (I call it NC). They denied it to my parents for years then it got even worse. I’m the eldest child and the least liked by either parent so I guess this was inevitably due to my childhood and upbringing.

I’m three years into the last time I saw any of them (not surprisingly when I was visiting where they are as none of them have ever been to my home lived here 8 years). It is very hard every day but I’m getting used to it now and without protecting myself like this I’d never have got through it all.

I really miss not knowing anything about my nieces and nephews. I don’t get any phone calls, letters or photos from any of them anymore which I really loved before. I send cards and gifts for Christmas and birthdays to the ones I have addresses for. I’m the unknown aunt who sends them something but they have no idea who I am and at this rate they never will. I’m considering stopping this next year as it makes me feel sad.

So just lower your contact to the level your brother manages. That’s what I had to do to protect myself and that’s why I call it NC as none of them can be bothered to do a thing, I was the one previously making all the effort.

If any of them do contact me I would for example send a text, sm message, letter or so on back to them in my own time. but they choose not to.

Pessismistic · 20/04/2026 19:09

Op just forget to text him he is an awful brother and he loves hurting you I decided a while ago if people aren’t nice or don’t make an effort I just fade them out. I’m not any worse off by doing this it might be for the best especially if you haven’t got to get involved with the parent still alive. Yes it will hurt as he is your blood but he’s not arsed about you so don’t give him any more of your time for him to be a nasty bastard. Your kids don’t need to see your toxic brother either your not doing them any favours by letting him humiliate you.

FlorianTV · 20/04/2026 19:09

I think when you come to realise that if you don’t message someone first, you will never hear from them again - that kind of says it all. Why bother putting effort in when it’s not reciprocated. As sad as it is, if someone doesn’t care about you, they don’t care about you. Stop reaching out and enjoy your life.

perhaps still send things for the children, presents, cards, write letters etc. But withdraw from him.

sunnybaros · 20/04/2026 19:03

I stopped contacting my youngest sister (also golden child), last year. I haven't heard from her since and feel free of her continual moaning and entitlement.

I wouldn't bother to contact your brother and just be polite and to the point if he contacts you.

deeahgwitch · 20/04/2026 18:26

Ohcrap082024 · 18/04/2026 14:16

Oh and make changes now. Rebalance the relationship before you become the default Go To Sibling for your aging, shared parents.

I agree 💯

BeenThere2Often · 20/04/2026 18:22

My elder brother was horrible growing up. He never really changed. All came to a head over a will where he was executor and took almost everything for his greedy all-alone self. Have gone no contact with him for sixteen years now. One of the best decisions I have ever made. His behaviour wrecked my health he caused me so much stress. The childhood dynamics never change.Free yourself. You’ll lose nothing and gain autonomy!

permanently · 19/04/2026 11:50

OP I love the advice given to ‘drop the rope.’ I have done the same with my similar brother for reasons you have given. I wish him well but blocked/NC. Still send gifts etc to his children/communicate with them. No longer in my head rent free. Have asked my mother to stop passing on information but of course she loves to trigger him (let’s keep that toxic dynamic going to the last!) Block for a year and then you could try to re-engage with boundaries? X

Peony1985 · 19/04/2026 11:25

One I think he'd a bloke and generally socialised to be a bit crap with this sort of thing.
Two it sounds like he is projecting his failings into you.

You do what you makes you happy. Send letters/photos or gifts because you want to. Don't keep in touch out of guilt or obligation.

Meeko505 · 18/04/2026 16:09

Endofyear · 18/04/2026 16:00

I'm failing to understand why you are bothering to update him as he obviously has no interest in your family or you. Stop trying to force a relationship that isn't there. You don't have to go no contact, you just have to drop the rope and stop making any effort. Concentrate on your own family and don't worry about what your brother thinks of your life choices - if you're happy, why do you care what he thinks?

I don’t know. He does invite me to visit him and he has spontaneously updated me on his own news before - he just has no interest in visiting me or my news. I think this has made me think in the past that he does care about me but actually I’m starting to think it is just that I give him what he wants - the congratulations, attention etc. that he wants when he tells me this stuff. (I don’t heap praise upon him but ofc do just say the usual stuff that anyone might when told news about kids, job etc.) and as to why his judgement bothers me - he’s my big brother, for some reason I’ve always cared a bit even though rationally I know we are very different people and have very different personalities and priorities.

OP posts:
Endofyear · 18/04/2026 16:00

I'm failing to understand why you are bothering to update him as he obviously has no interest in your family or you. Stop trying to force a relationship that isn't there. You don't have to go no contact, you just have to drop the rope and stop making any effort. Concentrate on your own family and don't worry about what your brother thinks of your life choices - if you're happy, why do you care what he thinks?

jellyfish798 · 18/04/2026 15:58

Meeko505 · 18/04/2026 13:39

Growing up my older brother was the golden child and I was the scapegoat, and it feels like that dynamic has never changed. He’s late 30s with two children and I am mid 30s with four children, we don’t live near each other and we have generally only seen each other in person as adults when I have travelled either to him or parents visit.

He shows very little interest in my life or my kids’ lives, never asking after us and even sometimes just ignoring messages when I’ve tried to share news with him about my children. But he will update me on his kids when I ask after them, which is something I’ll be sad to lose by going zero contact. He’s also always been very dismissive and rude to me, and this just doesn’t seem like it will ever change. He makes judgemental comments about my choice to have four children, and makes “jokes” that imply I’m a bad parent. For context, I’m married, we have a nice house and a nice life, we’re financially comfortable, stable, I don’t really feel like he has any reason to look down on me like this. I’m happy with my life, but every time I speak to him I feel like I’m not good enough. A few years ago I actually pointed this out to him and he said something like, “well, you have to admit you had a lot of promise when you were younger and haven’t really lived up to that”. I guess because I was very academic but I’m now a SAHM. But I was never ambitious and we don’t need me to work so what business is it of his?

I am just tired of this dynamic. I get nothing out of this relationship and most times I try to message my brother I just feel upset. I feel like if I stopped messaging him we wouldn’t speak for months or even a year, and I’m starting to think maybe I should just stop trying to even update him on my life at all - like even if we move, had a baby, whatever? It makes me feel a bit unreasonable to not give him news like that but he never says anything nice and I am starting to feel like he doesn’t deserve any updates. I think he would be annoyed with me for not telling him, but only because he feels entitled to know and not because he cares iykwim.

AIBU? And why do you think my brother hates me 😭

He's a prick and a parasite feeding his ego off putting you down - he's probably deeply insecure and that's not your problem. Your life will be better without him. Blood relatives can be a ball and chain. Don't let him in your life just because of DNA.
Someday you might make new male friends who will be the brothers you chose, not the ones you were lumbered with by birth. You might still have a positive brother figure in your life someday - I found one.
You'll feel lighter and better when you have this twat out of your life.

Takeoutyourhen · 18/04/2026 15:54

Narcs make narcs - your brother has been conditioned to be like this by your parents.
Brushing off rudeness as a joke and being upset that YOU were upset and deflection is a classic example of how he hasn’t emotionally matured. That will not change. You can only change how you react to it. In person this is harder because your reaction will only enrage him but geographical distance and limiting messages will be easier to manage. He can’t poke the bear as much. Quite telling that your friends suggested no contact.

Meeko505 · 18/04/2026 15:41

Cerialkiller · 18/04/2026 15:34

Agree with this. Don't make some huge gesture, it will only confirm what he apparently thinks about you.

Stop contacting him. If he never bothers to get in touch you know where you stand. If he does eventually contact you respond briefly in a similar vein that he does currently. A couple of sentence or whatever.

If he questions why you haven't been in touch I would be brief but honest.

'i'm tired of being in a relationship where I'm constantly put down and badly treated'

If he comes back with blame/insults you just say 'see that's an excellent example thank you'

If he comes back with genuine apologies then you may have something to recover.

My sense is that as the golden child he may simply be so used to the dynamic of being above everyone that it honestly hasn't occured to him how badly he is acting. If he has any introspection then he can recover from this. Ultimately it WAS your parents fault he has learned this way but as a grown man he now needs to take responsibility.

Keep your answers very short and blunt. Resist the temptation to rant or you'll undermine your argument. If he bites back try not to respond with a tit for tat just DROP THE ROPE. Don't feel like you need to response to him at all, you can leave him on read.

I very recently told him that I thought something he said to me was really rude and offensive and he insisted it was a lighthearted joke and acted like I was totally out of line. I won’t repeat the conversation because it would be outing but everyone I shared it with said he was totally out of order and some people even said they would cut contact over it. So I don’t think I’m crazy!

OP posts:
newornotnew · 18/04/2026 15:40

And why do you think my brother hates me

You explained why in your opening sentence: Growing up my older brother was the golden child and I was the scapegoat, and it feels like that dynamic has never changed.

Either you and he can discuss this ongoing family dynamic, or you will probably need to accept it isn't going to change.