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To think no one can SERIOUSLY want Starmer to go now, it’s media created instability designed to damage the UK.

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partmermaidpartplant · 18/04/2026 10:42

trump, wars, Israel invading Lebanon, US mid terms…….

it would mental for Starmer to go and it’s a trap.

yabu - of course Starmer has to go, despite what is happening in the world right now.

yanbu - time to move on and deal with trump and the blatant manipulation of the media by Russia, right wing billionaire interests.

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millymollymoomoo · 21/04/2026 10:22

What starter has done is far worse than Boris party gate. Yet all Labour supporters now don’t like to enforce their own rules in their leader and expect the press to give an easy time ! The media give Labour much less pressure than tories ! Mainstream media is left wing biased so they’ve given him nothing like what they do more right wing parties

yet another example of the total shambles of two tier treatment this country has

Badbadbunny · 21/04/2026 10:16

@Papyrophile

Our sub-contractors, like the welders and the specialist machinists we depend on - because we can't afford to have them all on our payroll - are also ageing out of employment. The loss of technical skill should be scaring politicians into sleepless nights

I have several clients who are in a similar position. Some doing niche/unique work who are wanting to retire but there is no one able to take over or sell their business to. I agree that politicians should be having sleepless nights about this. But, of course, they don't care about small business and self employed. Neither the Tories nor Labour care about small businesses even though they employ a huge proportion of the country's workforce. Politicians just prefer to "offshore" everything to the Far East and hope that the shit won't hit the fan on their watch when the supply chains are ruined by wars, shipping blockages, pipeline cuts, etc.

Papyrophile · 20/04/2026 20:41

To bore on, my DH has a tiny engineering company. We clean, repair, service and remanufacture heat transfer equipment, mostly in the marine industry. We don't have a production line. There isn't a product in a box on a shelf waiting for a customer to buy it. Our customers find us, and bring their problem item to us. What we offer is 35 years of experience and knowledge, and the skills and tooling to fix their problems, quickly. So their brewing becomes more efficient, or their bio-power gen plant works at 100% again. But we are all getting old, and the skills and knowledge will be lost unless there's some political commitment to saving little businesses.

Our sub-contractors, like the welders and the specialist machinists we depend on - because we can't afford to have them all on our payroll - are also ageing out of employment. The loss of technical skill should be scaring politicians into sleepless nights. I edited this post to add the second paragraph.

Papyrophile · 20/04/2026 20:21

Small businesses make quick decisions. They don't affect government policy or influence it. If there is work they can do profitably, they take it; if there's a decent amount, they consider taking on extra hands, possibly, or they pay overtime. But this Government is terrifying the living daylights out of small businesses.

Papyrophile · 20/04/2026 20:12

I am glad that Starmer didn't commit us to Trump's idiotic escapade against Iran. Internationally I think he is doing well. But his Chancellor and his back benches, and there are lots of them, most with threadbare support which is why they are cacking themselves ahead of May 7.... I have no time for them at all.

It is all very lovely to say you want the best for everyone. Given that 60% or thereabouts of the population work for small businesses, surely it is a no brainer that you make life a little easier for small companies with a bit of compliance easing on H&S or compliance regulations. Otherwise, the person who does the work all day on the tools gets in, eats, and then starts completing government paperwork. Reasonable to expect this of a decent sized company that can afford to pay an admin pro but to demand the same level of detail from a company that employs five or 10 people and the occasional subbie is overkill.

A little lighter on the cost of employing people would boost the economy quickly. RR's first budget was an absolute hammer blow to SMEs and to part time jobs.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 19:48

DdraigGoch · 20/04/2026 19:36

Badenoch was all in favour of UK involvement. And remained so until it became obvious just how unpopular that would be.

Maybe, maybe not.

You don’t know that, despite your Blair whataboutery.

DdraigGoch · 20/04/2026 19:36

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 18:30

So?

Just because Blair did does not mean every other PM will.

Badenoch was all in favour of UK involvement. And remained so until it became obvious just how unpopular that would be.

Atleastthedoglikesme · 20/04/2026 19:34

LadyVioletBridgerton · 20/04/2026 14:46

Who would seriously want him to stay??! He’s a weak willed man who’s made a shit country even shitter.

I loathe people who fail to understand how miraculously lucky they are in global terms to have been born in the UK. It's the most tone deaf privileged position to call the UK a "shit country". Try living in DRC, or Afghanistan, or North Korea or one of the countries where infant mortality is 70 times our rate, or where there's no functioning education system, or where there is war.

This is not "a shit country". You have no freaking idea.

caringcarer · 20/04/2026 19:29

Hoardasurass · 19/04/2026 09:19

In the uk we dont elect a prime minister we elect a party.

@partmermaidpartplant I really dont think you understand quite how bad the mandalson fiasco is.
Mandalson failed the highest security vetting in this country which means hes a danger to the country and cant be trusted to see top secret intelligence as he is open to blackmail and bribery. Yet Starmer chose to ignore it and gave him clearance anyway. This sort of corruption has never been allowed to happen under any other UK government.

The simple fact is Starmer has put this country at risk just for his buddy and is now trying to throw everyone under the bus to try and protect himself.
Even if you believe Starmer that he didn't know (not possible) he has completely lost control of the civil service and that has allowed the security of this country to be compromised so he could put his friend in a position of power and give mandalson access to top secret information.
All.of that is before we look at the rest of Starmers lame duck premiership. The man and party are not fit for power, they are turning us into an authoritarian country with speach being policed in dangerous ways and are driving our country into bankruptcy just as every other labour government has in history. Some of us on this site are old enough to remember when we had to be bailed out by the IMF dur to labour mismanagement and are watching on in horror as history is repeating itself again.

The whole labour party belong in the bin

I also remember the IMF fiasco. Too many labour voters don't look back through their party records.

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 18:30

DdraigGoch · 20/04/2026 17:42

Tony Blair had access to all the information and went in regardless, in order to suck up to Bush.

Badenoch was all for deploying our armed forces until it became clear just how unpopular the move would be.

So?

Just because Blair did does not mean every other PM will.

EasternStandard · 20/04/2026 18:23

partmermaidpartplant · 20/04/2026 18:20

Also still no one has come up with a list of reasons that he is been so bad except ‘read other threads’

But why not? It’s not like people are holding back, you sound interested enough to want to know, it’s in so many places.

partmermaidpartplant · 20/04/2026 18:20

Also still no one has come up with a list of reasons that he is been so bad except ‘read other threads’

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partmermaidpartplant · 20/04/2026 18:19

LadyVioletBridgerton · 20/04/2026 14:46

Who would seriously want him to stay??! He’s a weak willed man who’s made a shit country even shitter.

How has Starmer made the country ‘shitter’

actual examples please.

the PP who mention that Starmer is bringing the UK back to the EU probably has it right.

look at Trump. A Tory PM would have been behind him 100% and joining in the insider trading.

Starmer used to be a human rights lawyer in his spare time. I don’t want him to be my friend, I want him to bring positive change to the uk and I think he is doing this.

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DdraigGoch · 20/04/2026 17:42

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 17:23

Maybe, maybe not.

i suppose she would have had access to more classified information if she’d been PM and she might have come to a different conclusion in that case.

Tony Blair had access to all the information and went in regardless, in order to suck up to Bush.

Badenoch was all for deploying our armed forces until it became clear just how unpopular the move would be.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 17:23

DdraigGoch · 20/04/2026 17:17

If Badenoch had been the PM we'd have been dragged into Trump's stupid war.

Maybe, maybe not.

i suppose she would have had access to more classified information if she’d been PM and she might have come to a different conclusion in that case.

AprilMizzel · 20/04/2026 17:21

DdraigGoch · 20/04/2026 17:17

If Badenoch had been the PM we'd have been dragged into Trump's stupid war.

I think that's one of the few things he actually did well.

Though he could perhaps have been even clearer from start.

Badenoch or Farage we'd be up to our necks in it and US wouldn't thank us.

DdraigGoch · 20/04/2026 17:17

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 15:28

I definitely prefer Badenoch to Starmer.

If Badenoch had been the PM we'd have been dragged into Trump's stupid war.

Tessasanderson · 20/04/2026 16:57

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 16:26

If you don’t vote you lose the right to moan about the elected politicians.

Read my posts again. Who in particular have i moaned about? I have moaned about the process. I have moaned about the corruption. I have moaned about the sleeze.

I dont like any of the politicians which i why i dont vote. I dont like the system which is why i dont vote. Any vote i would give would end up being a tactical vote and i absolutely 100% disagree with doing that.

EasternStandard · 20/04/2026 16:39

nearlylovemyusername · 20/04/2026 16:38

I agree with this view.

It’s not. He’ll only go if Labour MPs think they’re more likely to win the next GE with someone else.

nearlylovemyusername · 20/04/2026 16:38

Jasmin71 · 20/04/2026 16:29

Sir Kier is beginning to align more closely with our European neighbours. Hence, the panic to try and get rid of him. Trust me.

I agree with this view.

EasternStandard · 20/04/2026 16:34

Jasmin71 · 20/04/2026 16:29

Sir Kier is beginning to align more closely with our European neighbours. Hence, the panic to try and get rid of him. Trust me.

It’s more to do with Labour wanting to survive. If the local elections are very bad for them due to Starmer they might consider him going.

Jasmin71 · 20/04/2026 16:29

Sir Kier is beginning to align more closely with our European neighbours. Hence, the panic to try and get rid of him. Trust me.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/04/2026 16:26

Tessasanderson · 20/04/2026 16:22

I havent voted for about 20 years. I cant look at any of the politicians and support any of them. Every single one is flawed.

The basic principle of politics being a popularity contest means it is too open to corruption.

The only saving grace of the shit we are going through at present means the money tree is dissapearing and they will soon have to confront issues, not from a party point of view but from the 'fighting off bankruptcy' POV.

I want the best person in each position possible. I really dont give a hoot what party they belong too. We need to tear up the rule book

If you don’t vote you lose the right to moan about the elected politicians.

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