To think no one can SERIOUSLY want Starmer to go now, it’s media created instability designed to damage the UK.

The media wants drama it can report on, and they’ve got used to the changing of leader drama of the last conservative government.

The media doesn’t want what’s best for the UK or to damage the UK - they want what’s the best story.

It’s no secret that UK newspaper owners never wanted a Labour government and that the super wealthy make mega bucks from instability like 9/11 and this current war with Iran.
Starmer is shit and made a monumental fuck up with Mandelson (what dirt does he have on Starmer etc?) but not convinced that a replacement would improve things. It would be like Truss and Sunak after Johnson- biding time until the next General Election.

A lot of people think he's been weak and duplicitous and not upheld the lofty virtues he said Labour stood for immediately after the election. And it's going to be very interesting and possibly quite crucial when he faces the Commons on Monday over the latest Mandelson developments. I don't think he'll necessarily be able to ride it all out. But should he go now - no. For the reasons the OP has listed, there is too much instability in the world and the UK is affected by it. Uncertainty about our leader on the world stage would not be helpful right now. Simply because he's already in that position, he is the best person to represent us.

(And then of course there's the question of who would replace him. Angela Rayner and Wes Streeting are seen as the most promising in terms of leading the party, but both of them have skeletons in their closets)

It's seems that there's a media call for his resignation every other week. It would be damaging for the country, we don't need to keep changing PM's. He has a sizeable majority, no need for him to go anywhere.

Yes, I definitely think the media does not have UK best interests at heart.
Starmer should not go, as no one can manage the world stage any better right now.

Are you saying that you think the Russian British media don't want to damage the UK?

The Tory dramas for the last few years have led many to believe changing PM regularly is normal. It’s not. He’s been elected for a term, he’s most likely going to complete that. If it’s getting close to the next general election and it’s really clear from polling that he is a problem that would cause them to lose the election, but changing leader would cause them to win, he might step down. However the Labour Party are shit at back stabbing compared to the Tories, even when the polling was clear that Corbyn himself, not his policies was a problem for the electorate, he chose to stay on and no one pushed him out until he lost 2 general elections.

if the public didn’t want Starmer to be the PM they shouldn’t have voted Labour last election. You’ll get a chance to pick someone else next time.

Almost two-thirds of those who voted in the last general election did not want him in the first place.

As for replacing a Prime Minister when there is a war overseas, it would not be the first. Margaret Thatcher being replaced by John Major is an example.

I don't think the likely Labour replacement at this time would be any better.

I agree. It’s certainly pushing an agenda.

Agreed. It would be crazy to destabilise now, look at all the relationships he’s nurtured that really hang quite delicately in the balance

Sorry, misread the question. But the same applies. I'd love to see Starmer go but who would replace him? Diane Abbot? Nightmare! Rachel Reeves? The Ginger Whinger? Lammy? 😫

I agree that Starmer does not ‘need’ to resign, despite the hysterics of the Quentin Letts class.

I hope he sacks a lot of those ‘top’ civil servants tbh, who have a lot to answer for, from being Stonewalled to overriding the Supreme Court to ignoring their ministers’ clear needs for truthful information.

ETA: I’m not voting Labour though!

This post looks awfully like a bit of propaganda as well.

I totally agree with you. The UK media are toxic.

Are you saying that you think the British media want to damage the U.K.?
Do you not think turning a blind eye to people who are friends with rapists has something to do with it?

I'd be delighted to see Trump go, but who would replace him That's the problem. Apparently Vance is even more militant than Trump.