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To think no one can SERIOUSLY want Starmer to go now, it’s media created instability designed to damage the UK.

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partmermaidpartplant · 18/04/2026 10:42

trump, wars, Israel invading Lebanon, US mid terms…….

it would mental for Starmer to go and it’s a trap.

yabu - of course Starmer has to go, despite what is happening in the world right now.

yanbu - time to move on and deal with trump and the blatant manipulation of the media by Russia, right wing billionaire interests.

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EasternStandard · 18/04/2026 18:51

Pacificsunshine · 18/04/2026 16:52

It’s the opposition’s job to oppose.
It’s the media’s job to scrutinise.

It’s not a Russian plot.
It’s not any different from what the Conservatives endured.

Yep people were up for that media scrutiny.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2026 18:48

He turned things round with his attitude to Trump but the Mandelson stuff has shown him as either unwilling or unable to access vetting info - not a good look.

TheDellsYoursongNsoul · 18/04/2026 18:48

Looking at the daily mail comments
Please Trump come save us
Starmers a coward
And so on and so on.
No right thinking people wouldn't wish Trump on anyone.
Not getting involved in Trumps mess is a good thing.
Oh the other common comment..Election Now.
Nope that's not how democracy works.

NoWordForFluffy · 18/04/2026 18:45

UniquePinkSwan · 18/04/2026 18:31

Anyone who disagrees with you is a bot? Interesting…

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That's the standard accusation on this type of thread.

Myoldbear · 18/04/2026 18:43

AnotherName2025 · 18/04/2026 17:58

I'm honestly not sure, there's no one from any party (or no party in fact) that I would nominate for PM.

However, that doesn't mean I have to agree with your statement & am not worried that people think like you

no one can manage the world stage any better right now

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Someone has to lead the country though.

Of course I know you don't have to agree with me and many others that Starmer is doing the best job of anyone available

However, the most interesting thing to me is that you don't have any ideas on who would do a better job at present.

Dullmary · 18/04/2026 18:43

Completely agree, OP. The people who want him gone seem to want it for the pettiest of reasons in the grand scheme of things. This is not the time for that.

Freysimo · 18/04/2026 18:40

I think Mandelson must have some serious dirt on Keir for him to have risked his premiership for him.

IdaGlossop · 18/04/2026 18:37

UniquePinkSwan · 18/04/2026 18:30

I want him to go. He’s useless

He is useless but I'm struggling to think of any PM since Blair who was an inspiring leader. I'm not Z Blair fan but I can see he had a vision and was on top of his government.

UniquePinkSwan · 18/04/2026 18:31

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UniquePinkSwan · 18/04/2026 18:30

I want him to go. He’s useless

TemperanceWest · 18/04/2026 18:30

IdaGlossop · 18/04/2026 18:25

Here it is: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mandelson-epstein-starmer-us-ambassador-trump-b2824777.html

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Thank you.

partmermaidpartplant · 18/04/2026 18:28

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FlorenceLawrence · 18/04/2026 18:25

I hate Starmer with a passion, and I do think he's lying through his teeth, but I dread to think who would replace him.

Heatedrival · 18/04/2026 18:10

I don’t want him to go. I think the press are awful.

DdraigGoch · 18/04/2026 18:01

notimagain · 18/04/2026 17:35

Not being UK resident/exposed to that much UK MSM I'm not really seeing this great job he's meant to be.doing diplomatically on the world stage.

Given the Labour party position post Blair/Iraq there he was (rightly) wasn't going to find it difficult stick with the General NATO line of "not our conflict" and he has allowed the use of bases in the UK for operations against Iran.

He's certainly not leading NATO/European leaders on the diplomatic front, he's one of the general crowd of leaders travelling around, making statements.....

I'm not criticising him for the above, but let's not get carried away that he's some sort of collosus leading the stand against Trump.

When both Badenoch and Farage would have been right there with Trump (heck, Bliar was also calling for us to get involved in Iran), we're just glad to have a PM who isn't openly sucking a US president off.

NoWordForFluffy · 18/04/2026 18:00

DdraigGoch · 18/04/2026 17:57

AV doesn't bring proportional representation though.

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It's still a step up from FPTP though for voter choice. Sadly the Tories wouldn't allow the vote to be for PR.

BIossomtoes · 18/04/2026 18:00

Figgygal · 18/04/2026 16:56

This entire "scandal" is Westminster bubble bollocks

I hate the media at the moment it's so toxic

100%. 🎯

Kneenightmare · 18/04/2026 18:00

The constant attack on Starmer makes me think I dreamed the 14 years of total Tory failure and corruption, destroying the economy through austerity, Brexit and Truss and Kwateng helping their mates to cash in on our misery. Democracy means accepting what people voted for. Many of us had to live with that for 14 years with our heads in our hands watching the UK become a joke on the world stage. All you Starmer and Labour haters have had to put up with him for less than two years so suck it up. If Kemi or Nige had been in charge we’d have blindly followed Trump into war and things would be much worse.

AnotherName2025 · 18/04/2026 17:58

Myoldbear · 18/04/2026 16:59

Well who do you think would do better, and why?

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I'm honestly not sure, there's no one from any party (or no party in fact) that I would nominate for PM.

However, that doesn't mean I have to agree with your statement & am not worried that people think like you

no one can manage the world stage any better right now

NoWordForFluffy · 18/04/2026 17:57

nearlylovemyusername · 18/04/2026 17:55

Who out of the current lot can be better though?
Rayner? Wes? BP? they are even scarier then Starmer

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Isn't it quite the indictment of modern politics that a party which has as many MPs as Labour does, doesn't actually have anybody of a sufficient quality who could succeed the current PM?

DdraigGoch · 18/04/2026 17:57

NoWordForFluffy · 18/04/2026 16:48

There have been a number in the 40+% though. It doesn't change my point that FPTP gives big majorities on low % votes, however.

I voted for AV. Did you?

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AV doesn't bring proportional representation though.

nearlylovemyusername · 18/04/2026 17:55

Dragonscaledaisy · 18/04/2026 17:17

Saying there's no better option is no reason to keep a weak and incompetent individual in post. Very few people could be worse.

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Who out of the current lot can be better though?
Rayner? Wes? BP? they are even scarier then Starmer

NoWordForFluffy · 18/04/2026 17:39

BIossomtoes · 18/04/2026 16:42

No government in living memory has been close to winning 50% of the vote share.

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Actually, I just fact checked this. You're wrong.

To think no one can SERIOUSLY want Starmer to go now, it’s media created instability designed to damage the UK.
notimagain · 18/04/2026 17:35

Not being UK resident/exposed to that much UK MSM I'm not really seeing this great job he's meant to be.doing diplomatically on the world stage.

Given the Labour party position post Blair/Iraq there he was (rightly) wasn't going to find it difficult stick with the General NATO line of "not our conflict" and he has allowed the use of bases in the UK for operations against Iran.

He's certainly not leading NATO/European leaders on the diplomatic front, he's one of the general crowd of leaders travelling around, making statements.....

I'm not criticising him for the above, but let's not get carried away that he's some sort of collosus leading the stand against Trump.

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