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AIBU to feel upset after seeing school mums out together?

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Advice943 · 17/04/2026 20:20

Went for dinner early evening with husband and kids and when we got there the school mums were just leaving with their kids, there were 5 kids and their mums and a few fathers. These kids are who my eldest is very close with and plays with on a regular basis. I know the typical mumsnet response will be “well it was 5 of the kids not the entire class!”. But it still upset me. They are all so close and I’m never included in the plans. I have tried to get friendly with them since reception but I never seem able to. It upsets me that my child is also excluded.

in all honesty I’m very lonely, I don’t have a good relationship with DH and even at the restaurant he had laptop with him whilst I saw groups of women together laughing and chatting and other families also doing the same. I tried to talk to him about it and was met with angry stares and complete silence. I’m really lonely and watching the end of the mums and dads on the class get together were everyone was smiling and so in the moment left me feeling really down.

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Justbreathagain · 17/04/2026 21:49

This just breaks my heart to read. I am similar and have always thought I have had social anxiety. Could you try peanut? I have not used it but I believe it is a way to meet other mums? You need to find people who are also looking to make friends. I'm afraid if you want to make friends you are likely going to have to make the 1st move. Xx

ThatFairy · 17/04/2026 21:40

@Advice943 that's terrible as well. Sounds like you had a good midwife. The thing is you can't get these precious moments back.

I think MIL was trying to protect her son from me or something as we had had an argument earlier when I had just got out of surgery. I just was on morphine and crying uncontrollably for some reason, I think it was the drugs and being separated from my baby as soon as he was born, and I just didn't want anyone touching me and the nurse was insisting she washed me and I told her I would wait till I could walk and have a shower. So my ex said I was immature like he was embarrassed or something and I told him to get out. And then he did and just left me for about two hours. The result was we had no time with our baby together as he left with them. It was just all wrong.

Velvetandleather · 17/04/2026 21:38

I think maybe you have social anxiety op.

but we can’t expect to be friends with people just due to proximity, this group all hit it off, the dads too, this is ok. I understand it hurts as you want to be included.

but you need to have some things lined up, women’s groups, as said earlier, and if he’s home, go. If not don’t; Most of these things you dip in and out with.

id really not go asking all the mums at school to go out with you. Not try to base friendships round your kids, but find something for you , it has more longevity, even if it means finding a baby sitter, be it your mother in law, a family member or someone you pay.

but you can’t sit and expect to be invited and proclaim you’re lonely and ifs your husbands fault. You need to be proactive and get yourself out there. It will never come to you otherwise,

Advice943 · 17/04/2026 21:32

@ThatFairy thsts really horrible of her! She should have waited till you had a moment with your son!

My idiot DH brought her into the delivery room when I had literally given birth! he also tried to bring FIL! The midwife stopped him thank God at that point and I was kind of out of it with the gas and air but I remember her telling DH off and saying this should just be a moment between the baby and parents not everyone else. I can’t believe he would do that. I was literally naked having my skin to skin time. I don’t even think the nurse had sewn me Babk up at that point, it feels a blur tho so I don’t remember all the details.

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ThatFairy · 17/04/2026 21:26

I have felt so much anger over the years that she destroyed my precious moments with my babies

I have this feeling towards my ex MIL, (who is a total bitch and has just been awful and disrespectful to me the whole time) I'd just and my son and he was whisked away to NICU. A few hours later I was able to see him and instead of his father she was sat in the room in the only other chair while his useless father waited outside. So my first proper cuddle and hold of my baby she was there with me in a private moment as I tried to bond with him. The cheeky bitch. That family didn't understand boundaries

Mayflower282 · 17/04/2026 21:26

Do you ever organise outings? I stopped inviting a friend to things because I was always the one organising.

ThatFairy · 17/04/2026 21:22

I don't think you necessarily have autism or anything no. I'm introverted, would never go up to people I didn't know well and invite them out. Well I don't think I have any conditions but my relative keeps telling me I'm autistic

Advice943 · 17/04/2026 21:10

Yes I think you are right, if DH was loving and attentive I wouldn’t care about seeing the school mums.

in the beginning he was nice to me and seemed to care but once we got married and his family came into the mix the problems started. His mother has no filter and said many nasty and strange things to me which I would be too shocked to respond to. He never once defended me or told her to mind her manners, his response was always “that’s just the way she is”. His 2 sisters are clones of his mum and again their nasty words were always ignored by him. Things got worse when I had kids and MIL didn’t leave me alone to the point of just walking into our home 3x a day with the spare key and DH refusing to take the key off her when I told him how much it was affecting me. She drove me crazy during both my maternity leaves and I went back to work early because of her,

I have felt so much anger over the years that she destroyed my precious moments with my babies. Even now he takes them to her house on weekends for the entire day and I’m left home waiting for them to return. I don’t visit her anymore as I decided I can’t

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MissHollyGolightly · 17/04/2026 21:09

I want to know more about DH and the laptop. Is he coding or running AI agents while you're out? Or what? That seems really isolating and I'm sorry you're being subjected to that. On the mums --- I had similar experience. There's not a lot you can do apart from keep trying or give up. I thought if I hung around long enough they'd accept me. It sort of worked with one child's year mums but not the other. I'm a bit of a loner and find it hard to connect with people too. I like to stretch myself though and sometimes there are those moments of connection. I definitely get rejected along the way, but try again. 😃

Bitchcraft · 17/04/2026 21:05

Aw that sucks. I remember trying to make mum friends in baby groups and never really fit in. I find it hard to make friends anyway (I'm also ND) so it was quite upsetting. I've also done the dinner dates with a husband who was more interested in his phone. It sucked.

DC is now in YR4 and I've managed to make friends at the school gates. I've just started chatting to everyone and weirdly the mums I'm now friends with aren't the mums of DC's friends. So not many play dates for us but we chat and do coffee and drinks and they've listened to me whinge about my divorce. The group has grown now and I always make a point of inviting everyone and making sure any newcomers are invited to nights out etc. I'd hate to feel like I'm excluding anyone.

No real advice apart from just get chatting in the mornings/afternoons if you can. Offer to see other mums' kids in if they need to dash to work. And as PPs said, the school mums aren't your only option. Do you have local FB groups for meeting people? I've just joined a few local ones where people are looking to find friends or network and they look like a friendly bunch. Haven't gone along to the meetings yet but I can see myself going which is huge for me. 🙈

Good luck!

Mary46 · 17/04/2026 21:01

Op its hard isnt it. My daughter on a sports team said it was hard to settle in. Are you on the whatsapp group? I found mams cliquey in my sons year made a few friends from daughters year we still in touch. Hit and miss isnt it

BusMumsHoliday · 17/04/2026 21:00

I can see why this hurt but I think your real problem is your DH who was on a laptop in family time!

I think you need to do something regularly for yourself once a week. Tell your DH he has to be home that night. Don't change it. I think one reason your confidence is low is because your husband treats you pretty poorly.

I think you need to look for friends and self esteem beyond the school, as well as working on 1:1 invites with mums you feel more of a connection to.

Didimum · 17/04/2026 21:00

I’m sorry you’re feeling so awful. It’s not unreasonable to feel left out, but you have to put your energy into finding friendship with women who are open to wanting to make new friends – you’re wasting your time with those who aren’t. Let them be, you can’t change how they behave.

The bigger problem is your marriage. No matter what’s going on in friendships, you should find support a solace there. What’s going on? And how long has he been like this?

worldshottestmom · 17/04/2026 20:59

I think you are redirecting your attention to them to deflect from you feeling lonely due to your husband emotionally abandoning you. If he had got his laptop out at a public dinner I would of walked out.

Ask yourself, do you think you would feel so strongly about the other mums meeting up without you if your husband was kind and attentive?

I understand it hurts to see other mums doing stuff together without you, but please be assured it is nothing to do with their opinions of you; its a solid friendship group that meet up regularly and thats it. If you have to fight to be someone's friend, theyre probably not a great friend to have.

I would look elsewhere for friendships - other mums at school, joining social groups (yoga or something) and so on. If you work, do you have work friends you could meet up with? Its easy to get into your head about these things when other areas of your life arent great, in particular. Also, If your son is good friends with these kids at school and theyre happy together there, then dont worry about him being left out, he is fine.

Its a sad situation OP but I would seriously focus more on your marriage and what to do there. It doesnt sound like its a happy one, so if your husband isnt willing to fix it I would advise cutting off the dead weight and moving on. You'll be much more able to make friends when you feel better within yourself, too. Good luck

Advice943 · 17/04/2026 20:59

@HotGazpacho i really want to but my fear is in doing so I will be even more alone

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HotGazpacho · 17/04/2026 20:55

Mate, you need to leave your shitbag husband.

Advice943 · 17/04/2026 20:54

does anyone think I might be neurodiverse? The fact I find making friends so hard and making plans for meet ups feels impossible but would happily go if invited

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Advice943 · 17/04/2026 20:52

NorthFacingGardener · 17/04/2026 20:48

If I were you I would pick the one from the group that you like most / is most approachable and try to set up a play date or day out with kids to try and get to know one person better.
Don’t tackle the whole group, just focus on one person and if it goes well they might include you in the group. Or you might strike up a separate friendship with them outside of the group.

It is hard though. I’m naturally quieter and I think people sometimes think I’m unfriendly or not interested in making friends… I’m better in a one to one or small group situation.

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I did try this when the kids were younger, I really like one them in particular as she’s got the same background as me - we grew up outside the area and moved here after marriage, we also work in the same field, everytime I suggested play dates she said she doesn’t do them! Clearly she does,

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footballmadboys · 17/04/2026 20:50

OP this would really hurt me too. I’m sorry. Take it easy on yourself xxx

NorthFacingGardener · 17/04/2026 20:48

If I were you I would pick the one from the group that you like most / is most approachable and try to set up a play date or day out with kids to try and get to know one person better.
Don’t tackle the whole group, just focus on one person and if it goes well they might include you in the group. Or you might strike up a separate friendship with them outside of the group.

It is hard though. I’m naturally quieter and I think people sometimes think I’m unfriendly or not interested in making friends… I’m better in a one to one or small group situation.

Advice943 · 17/04/2026 20:42

Thank you for your kind words everyone and I know it sounds really easy to just invite people but I find it so hard, I might be ND but I’m not interested in getting a diagnosis. I just find it hard to make plans. I will go when invited but making the first move is very scary

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Advice943 · 17/04/2026 20:34

ThatFairy · 17/04/2026 20:27

That's a shame I'm sorry. Do you work ? Have hobbies you go to ? I never really got in with the school mum's either but to be honest I preferred it that way. I've been feeling lonely lately too. My son is 18 and has a very active social life and stays over with his partner quite a lot of the time.

I lost touch with my old friends years ago, and I'm out of work currently due to some health issues. I think we have to really get out in the world to make new friends. I'm planning on going back to work in a few months and I hope to make some new friends that way.

I think temping even just at the weekends for example is good cause everyone there is new a lot of the time. Or volunteering in group settings. I would also like to meet someone this year as Im starting to feel ready to date again. It could be your relationship has run its course ? And you would be happier and more fulfilled with someone new

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Sorry to hear this. I hope you make friends at your new work.

Yes I do work but I feel so overwhelmed with life that I can’t do anything without the kids. Work people have no kids so do go places and did invite me in the beginning but as I have zero childcare as no family nearby and DH is unreliable with telling me if he is gone that evening or not that I was unable to say yes to any plans

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Iwantsandybeachesandgoodfood · 17/04/2026 20:34

catipuss · 17/04/2026 20:31

Invite the mums and kids to a coffee or lunch yourself? That is the only way to be sure to be invited.

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I agree with this. Initiate the meet up and then hopefully they’ll reciprocate.

catipuss · 17/04/2026 20:31

Invite the mums and kids to a coffee or lunch yourself? That is the only way to be sure to be invited.

Advice943 · 17/04/2026 20:30

@OnlyMabelInTheBuilding i know they only met since reception because we had a garden party at school where we introduced each other and this group did not know each other. There’s another group who all came from nursery and there’s about 8 of them and very difficult to get in with them that’s why over the years I’ve tried with these guys but get no where. It’s a small primary with 15 kids in the year.

@Pugglywuggly it’s a family Restarant with a soft play attached to it do you can eat dinner and kids can play.

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