to think some people overreact about fasting?

It only annoys me when people become evangelical about it and claim it's the only way to lose weight/be healthy.
Truth is there are lots of ways to be healthy and whilst fasting works for some it's not going to work for everyone.
The closest I get is not eating breakfast but serious fasting wouldn't work for me, I'd be miserable and probably over eat afterwards.

Amazing research on the benefits of fasting

...in yeast and mice

I managed to lose weight by intermittent fasting. It was the only thing that worked for me after years of failure. But you are right that many people don't like it. I certainly didn't go around boasting about it but the few people I did tell usually reacted negatively. One said I'd harm myself by not eating for 18 hours. Another said that I'd never lose weight by only eating between 6pm and midnight (apparently if you eat after 8pm,it is 'impossible to lose weight'). Well I did ,I lost 7 stone in 15 months.

OH NOT AGAIN!

It's the 'AIBU to admire religious fasting' Poster.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5507390-to-admire-religious-fasting-for-its-discipline-and-commitment

You're even quoting the same reports (Bluezones)

Didn't you have enough the first time round OP?

Fasting isn’t something people with ED invented to avoid food.

I didn't say it was. You asked why people react negatively to fasting, and I explained to you why that is. Some people will, of course, react negatively to you banging on at them about fasting because for some people, that kind of conversation will be harmful to them. I'm not saying fasting is evil or wrong. I'm saying you need to understand that some people will react negatively to you droning on about it and telling them it's good for them. For some people I'm sure it might be. For others, it will not.

As I said - if you want to fast, just get on with it. Nobody's stopping you. Nobody gives a shit whether you eat or not. You can fast without banging on it about it and trying to convert others.

It's a) boring to anyone else and b) none of your business what other people eat. You come across as obsessive and intrusive to others - as evidenced by the fact that when I told you why people react badly to you talking about fasting, you immediately did the very things I pointed out.

If you get negative reactions to your fasting chat, stop chatting about it. I've lost a lot of weight myself, without fasting, but I don't go around evangelising about it as if I'm trying to recruit people into my cult.

As suspected OP is the ramadan fasting thread OP. Soon she'll be pulling out her "proven health benefits studies" done on 4 medical students 😂

Sensible fasting by itself e.g. 16/8 fast, with a level of flexibility about it obviously doesn't encourage eating disorders

Dr's promoting fasting repetively in the media does promote disordered eating. A large portion of their audience are people with an already disordered approach, they read their books and consume the media. That is who they are writing their books for and who they are profiting off. Medically backed starvation methods do encouraged disordered eating.

Posters like the OP who evangelicals and slightly obsessively post about the fasting, and how those who don't have no will power and are greedy bustards definitely do have a disordered approach to eating and weight management. I suspect OP is the same poster who did a similar thread about ramadan fasting. It is so blatant that fasting does encourage an unhealthy approach to eating in these people because they become do obsessive about it. Hence why fasting social media posts have so much disordered eating.

This.

'Greedy/no willpower' is irrelevant <and a bit unpleasant>.

If I knew I couldn't eat all day I'd fill up at 7am. It is not rocket science or even remotely impressive.

It obviously up to anyone what they share. Thr post is fasting is usually some spiritual religious thing in which case keep it private, between them and their god surely.

As I said they'll have had a massive feast for breakfast. Missing a sarnie at lunchtime is no biggie with all those calories already consumed.

You say no holier-than-thou undertones yet in your opening post you say it’s because people have no will power and later agree with a poster that it’s due to people being greedy. That’s pretty judgmental don’t you think?

I couldn’t care less what people choose to do if it’s not hurting them or people around them.
What has been irritating, however, is people who are fasting and are in a shitty mood because of it (due to low sugar levels presumably) so then it does become everyone else’s problem once they are being unnecessarily rude or snappy.

I think this attitude explains the backlash. And yes, I have fasted.
I just don't arrogantly think that only " greedy people" have an issue with it.
Seriously listen to yourself.

It triggers a strong reaction because a) people who do it constantly bang on about it and evangelise, b) it's just another way of reducing calorie intake, which you could do without fasting and c) making claims about fasting having health benefit is like catnip to people with eating disorders.

If you want to fast, that's fine. Just get on with it and stop feeling the need to promote it.

i have seen posters on her on 72 hr + fasts. Some even for a week.
if gives those with disordered eating an “exuse” to not be eating. I know when I was in the thick of it a massive part was making sure others didn’t think you had a problem. Fasting gives someone a reason to be sitting at dinner with a glass of water with everyone else thinking you’re acting reasonably.

I've known of people abuse laxatives to lose weight, to abuse diabetes medication (insulin) to lose weight - there is literally a disorder called diabulimia where people abuse their insulin meds to lose weight, people develop exercise addictions etc That doesnt mean insulin or laxatives or exercise when used properly is harmful.

Also, people with eating disorders and also addicts are two groups of people who lie the most convincingly. Ive seen people with ED tell absolute whoppers about how theyve "just eaten" or "ate like a pig for lunch so are going to avoid dinner"- they dont need fasting to lie about their eating patterns, they know all the tricks

I think the attitude is not limited to intermittent fasting. People feel entitled to opinions on what and how people eat.

I've encountered it for fasting, low-sugar, WLIs etc. Heard people saying it's unhealthy etc. etc.

I have gone low sugar (as in cutting out added sugar) mainly to help with a chronic illness, although I do have some weight to lose. I've done it before, felt so much benefit for my joint pain but found it really, really difficult in social situations and it certainly contributed to me eating more sugar again. I would say that I wasn't having extra sugar, and would get back, oh but for how long? that's a bit miserable, surely you can have a drink or two, just a bit of cake won't hurt, isn't that a bit extreme ... and so on.

This time I'm just not saying anything about cutting out sugar - just that I'm full, I can't manage dessert, that I might have a bit of cake later etc. and am getting no pushback whatsoever this time.

We will have to be more precise here. What this research shows is that Ramadan MAY (small study, not enough statistical power for any strong conclusions) be beneficial for people with existing metabolic disorders. We can't extrapolate to healthy people. We can't even say with any degree of confidence that it is true. Which is why researches are looking to confirm the findings with RCT.
Reporting like this is very common and, unfortunately, overinflates the significance of the actual study. But, at least, it wasn't done on mice...

has this issue now overtaken your “concern” regarding WLI @HazelMember

You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about people losing weight. Bit odd

Yes, I suspect this is mostly the reason. The very same people also go on and on about how fasting cures all ailments and abundantly cite research carried out on rodents. Do it if you like it, don't do it if you don't. Either way it's not some miracle or panacea it's often claimed to be.