Violent children should be stopped regardless of other factors

Well yes. This boy should clearly have been sectioned long before he murdered the little girls. The Public Enquiry has in fact indicated this. He couldn't have looked or behaved in a more psychotic way if he tried, and it had been going on for years with numerous agencies involved.

There are parents desperate for help with their violent DC but SS don’t step in and help due to finding.

Are you happy to pay more tax/NI/Council Tax?

Personally I am but I often feel like a minority in that on MN.

I think there’s a line when once it is crossed race and neurodivergence shouldn’t come into it. If a person is dangerous that should be the end of it- and action needs to be taken.

The cause of the behaviour is relevant of course but only in so far as it might determine what treatment/ care is necessary, not to excuse it.

But yes I am sick of the complete failure of authorities to take appropriate action and to properly organise themselves, take tough decisions, stand up to bullies, share information and work together, to stop this sort of thing happening. In this day and age where everyone has computers/email/ AI there’s no excuse for it. Not just in this case but also the terrible stabbings in Nottingham. Of course in AR’s case the parental failings were huge too, but that’s when the authorities should be there as a safety net. I honestly think Chat GPT would have done a better job.

Sectioned?

I agree. We have begun to normalise antisocial behaviour in children and this will eventually lead to a breakdown in our society as these children grow up into violent and lawless adults.
The behaviour shouldn’t be accepted. Schools should not be trying to deal with them because it adversely affects the other children in many ways (disruptive education or physical assault).
I don’t know what the solution is in a society where there is no money, but something needs to change.

I remember when my grandson was in primary school, one boy was violent several times. Not only punching other kids, but also throwing furniture around, and he was allowed to stay in the class because apparently 'he came from a troubled home'.

God knows where he is now (he will be an adult) or how his behaviour has progressed.

How do you stop them?

The problem are radicalised boys who have been allowed unfettered access to screens for years, the parents allowing it because it gives them a nice quiet life. Then all hell breaks loose when they realise their child is not only damaged but dangerous, to themselves and others. It starts with the parents.

But you’re not wrong, once this has happened the inevitable ASD diagnosis is given and trotted out every time they do something awful or hurt somebody.

We already have hordes of grown men blaming their violence and domestic abuse on ADHD - this is about to get a whole lot worse.