Incident at school - come and give me your thoughts.

I mentioned James Bulger, it was the fact that they’ve planned, targeted and executed taking a child away from safety, and goodness knows what they could or would do. thankfully the TA was awake and saw what was going on.
It’s about children planning to take another child

Op if you believe this then you'll believe anything. It's the 2nd day back and you genuinely believe that the school have 'spoken to' these girls. They most likely haven't and are saying it to keep you happy. You also won't be getting that meeting that you desire either. As far as the school is concerned nothing happened. The would be issue was quashed when the TA came out and took over.
Secondary schools do nothing when pupils are beaten and bullied horrifically, they certainly aren't going to do anything about this I'm afraid. You've emailed, you've left a paper trail so if anything else happens they have a record as do you. But it won't go any further now. Anything more from them is just to shut you up. Sorry to say

I am not suggesting it's DDs fault, but intrigued as to why she was targeted. Is there any known issues by the school? As it doesn't sound like mum is aware of any.
Is DD 'different' in any way which makes her stand out e.g. hairstyle, interests.
They could then look into whether it's bullying in general or if its just a case of random choosing (had they been in the class previously and seen books ready for the next lesson and DDs was on top).

Yes, busy dealing with their job and all the stuff that marks the start of a new term, finding time to reply to a message from a parent isn't always easy. As a form teacher I would have been passed it up to the the next level, Head of House/Year, whatever that title is. I think that there are a lot on this site who have absolutely no idea of what goes on in a school day, staff are not only dealing with your 'precious' sprog. None of this minimises what happened, it certainly needs dealing with promptly.

Whats your point then? How am I being disingenuous to say it is crass and distasteful to mention him when the scenarios are not comparable

Yeah, I figured.

There is also an epidemic of teachers who truly don't give a shiny shit about the children in their care, IMO.

Sorry, but that is completely unacceptable. There are too many other questions and safeguarding issues to let it lie with a rubbish response like that. Insist on seeing the HOY - and escalate to the head if no response.

I don't disagree .

Ex governor here. It's staff members who need speaking to.

The school should be ensuring that ALL staff members - teachers, TAs, everyone - are aware of the rules concerning students leaving the class during lessons. They should be reminded that any breach of these rules will be taken seriously. This reminder should be from the Safeguarding Lead and the Head.

The Governing Body should be informed of this breach and informed of the communications since the incident that are there to ensure it is not repeated.

The TA should be reminded that incidents of this kind should be reported, using the school's reporting policy.

It might be worth having a look at the school's policies on these things, which should be easily available from the school website.

You are doing the right thing here, and as all school people know, a failure to follow policy is a good way to fail on Ofsted's eyes so there should be no delay in sorting this.

I was yes.

Which is why some of this scenario doesn't sound true.

Yes disruptive year 9 pupils out when they shouldn't be is a possibility (especially if they have hoodwinked two different teachers into saying they are desperate for the toilet, knowing the backlash that teachers get for refusing children to go. Maybe they even claimed they were on their period so must be entitled to leave). The TA telling another child that one girl is her cousin and is a 'little shit' who just so happens to be out of class at the right moment rather than supervising their own 1:1 child sounds false.

I agree at most it's a weird prank and as I said I would be more concerned in asking the tutor to find out whether DD has settled in, if there have been any fallings out as maybe this could indicate whether DD is vulnerable.

Fuck me! What school did you go to...I thought mine was rough.

This will be massively high on the list as its happened on school premises...it's not someone forgetting an inhaler

No, and I didn't say it was, which you know since you quoted my post.

The voices of dissent are truly bizarre to me. "This won't matter to the school because someone might have been raped."

If everyone paid a little more attention to this 'unimportant' stuff then maybe we wouldn't have the absolute epidemic of bullying and mental health issues in our children and teens.

Hearing of things that are happening in schools these days I find this deeply concerning. Maybe it was a prank. Maybe something more sinister. Get onto safeguarding ASAP and dont let them try fobbing you off

Do you really think an 11 (12?) year old, on a school premises, is comparable to a toddler being led away in public? Don't be so ridiculous

Still a serious breach of safeguarding.

Why are you trying to downplay it to 'a mean prank' it could have become a nasty attack if the TA.hadnt been there.

thise other things are impirtant, but this happened at school, when she should have been n safe and is just as important.

Absolutely, 💯

If the tutor is powerless then that's precisely why the OP needs a better explanation from someone with the power to genuinely give it and the relevant reassurances. And it's not about words, it's about actions - the words would simply convey the actions taken. You seem to see this busy tutor's job as being to shut the pesky parent up rather than to deal with this incident so that it won't happen again (and with worse outcomes if a nice TA doesn't happen to step in).

You also seem to be implying that it must be the DD's fault. If there was some reason for her to be targeted, then that would come from investigating the other kids' motivation, not from the DD asking for it. Are unhappy kids fair game to be taken from class by older kids who are up to god knows what?

@Moonnstarz are you a teacher?

I would be worried too and my over anxious brain would be spiralling and imagining all sorts of horrible things but actually, if I think about this in a more level way (far easier when not involved!) I would imagine that that they were playing a silly joke and planning on leaving her at the office with actually no need for her to be there. Definitely needs a call to school though, it’s a bit worrying that they had the opportunity and apparent authority to take her out of class like that.

This would really bother me, again not one to go into the school or complain but I would keep pursuing this with the year head.

There was an absolutely awful case in Ireland about 6 years ago, where two 13 year old boys lured a girl from school to her death.
Here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ana_Kri%C3%A9gel

Also you have the word of the TA saying that her own cousin is a shit… this use of wording and her open distrust of the situation implies this girl has form.

I totally agree.

It all seems very exaggerated and I am afraid some of this doesn't ring true to me.