Incident at school - come and give me your thoughts.

completely agree. Most of these types of threads are people that just need a good night of sleep and a cold glass of water. This is different.

I don’t think it’s weird they knew her name or what lesson she was in.

However, what were they doing out of class? Why did a supply teacher let her leave with year 9s? In what world would that be home someone was summoned to the office? And indeed, what the hell was their plan?

I suspect the reason you didn’t hear back on day one is that it is just so bizarre it probably/hopefully got escalated internally to get you a good answer?

Are you actually serious? Your post is just completely ridiculous. Do you realise that TA would need about I’ve been support people to write out all the instances that happening in a day with the detail you requesting? It’s clearly a school where children wander around? That’s the way it goes in some schools.

I know, I just don't use that function and don't want to just for one thread

Ex teacher, ex safeguarding lead here.

You’re not overreacting @Newnamez . You’ll never know whether it was a harmless prank or if the girls had planned something sinister. That isn’t the issue; the issue is sloppy school management.

Have a face to face meeting, ask them to put in writing how they plan to tighten up school policy to prevent this. If you phone reception again, always ask for receptionist’s name. If you feel they are stalling, mention including Chair of Goveners going forward. School have an obligation to attend Governors meeting, usually the Head attends if the Governors receive a complaint from a parent that hasn’t been dealt with appropriately. This will rattle them, but they sound complacent.

A school local to me went into lockdown a couple of months ago, due to a student attacking a younger student, just walked in, attacked student. Victim taken to A&E, thankfully only minor injuries. Made national press. Better to over react than think “If only.”

Good luck.

Either they think it would make her look stupid or they weren't going to the office

Not good enough

I wonder if this is some form of 'tiktok challenge' at the school

I would also like to know how come those girls were out of class

I think you are right to keep following it up, and the school needs to tighten its practice around allowing kids out of class etc.
But I also wanted to say that this still may just have been a stupid prank.
When ds was in year 8, the year 8 and 9s were allowed to help the new year 7s. (this is in September at the start of the year) if a new year 7 was lost, the year 8 and 9s were allowed to take them to the place they were supposed to be and then be 5 minutes late for their own lesson.

On the whole it worked well, created community etc etc.
Except there were a group of year 8s (including my ds) who thought it was really funny to take the year 7s to the wrong place and then run away, and get to be late for their own lesson and not get into trouble. needless to say I had something to say about that to ds.

Hysterically funny apparently. So there could be something like that going on, target year 7, make them look silly, run away laughing.

Then perhaps when contacting the form tutor say thanks for informing me that the girls have been spoken to however due to the nature of the situation (DD being taken from class) then I would like to know what action the school is taking in terms of safeguarding and what the school policy is regarding children out of class.

The TA is still part of it though as she should have followed up the incident. She should have logged it factually with what she saw happen and this would include the girls names.
For example she would have recorded it as such:
I heard a noise in the corridor and noticed Jane Smith and Alice Jones from year 9 walking down the corridor with Megan Adams in year 7. I stopped them as they were out of class to ask where they were going. Jane and Alice said they were taking Megan to the office. I said I would take her (as per school policy students don't normally accompany another student to the office) and Jane and Alice ran off laughing. I took Megan to the office where we found she had not been asked for so she returned to class.
Action: I have spoken to Mrs B head of year 9 to let her know my concerns of Jane and Alice being out of class and asking for a year 7 child to go to the office.

@Newnamez meet your sister! Face to face is absolutely the way to go, though I would make sure to take notes of everything and follow up with an email outlining what was discussed. Cover your bases.

I agree that the TA is nothing to do with you and it's not your job to get to the bottom of it. That poster has already said it's all made up so I'd take the advice with a grain of salt, tbh.

They likely asked to go to the toilet.
Think about how many threads there are of outraged parents when they say that if their child is told they cannot go to the toilet in class that they should just walk out anyway as it's a basic human right.
This is why schools generally have toilet passes for those who need it.

Just to point out. All the posts we see on here about schools not letting their child go to the toilet during lessons and teachers say it’s a safeguarding reason please remember this as an example. At my school we would have multiple incidents like this everyday if we didn’t limit them to break, lunch and between lessons when staff are on duty. We have some teachers that do let students out because they are worried about the backlash from parents and I would say 50% of the time there is an incident.

How would a supply teacher know the names if 2 random older girls?

Wow. That is totally unacceptable!

Please do push for a face to face meeting - and I agree that safeguarding should be involved too.

Document everything that happened; date/ time/ lesson/ teacher / other girls names / form etc who hatched this despicable plan. Why on earth were those two wandering around school and not in class anyway?!

I really would not let this slide. I am glad your DD is okay.

Just reading the thread and don’t have any more advice to that already given, but goodness me, that made me go cold reading your OP.
You were absolutely right in contacting school. Don’t let them fob you off. x

It's very odd, if they were up to no good how could they hope to get away with it? The class teacher would know them and if anything bad had happened they would be incriminated straight away. It is scary though and I would want to get to the bottom of it. The TA using that language to, and about a child is also very odd.

@Newnamez it's good that you feel DD's teacher likes her but I would caution against believing that you're not being fobbed off.

As is evidenced even on this thread, teachers and schools can't and won't always care about your "precious sprogs". As nice as they might be to your DD is doesn't mean that they will truly work to get to the bottom of this.

If they can get rid of you with a vague "the girls were spoken to" they absolutely will.

The please report the TA. They weren't with their 1:1 (as they were out of class and then went off to escort your DD to the office - had they informed the teacher they were going? What if their own 1:1 had needed support at that time and they were off elsewhere).
The language they used with a child was inappropriate (calling the girl a little shit).
Also I don't think they should be disclosing information about relationships to another child, especially under these circumstances.

While I understand you are grateful for this TA it sounds like they need further training and that this whole incident should have been recorded by them (in which case the form tutor would have been able to see the log for to know to perhaps say to you that safeguarding are aware).

Insist on a meeting, they are trying to fob you off. Your concern is about how they are going to keep your child safe not whether they have "spoken" to the girls concerned. If they don't confirm a meeting by tomorrow then email the head and the Governors.

By pretending that you don't know how people could have possibly made the comparison between a child being lured away and killed, and this child being lured away for unknown reasons.

Perhaps you weren't being disingenuous and if so, fair enough, though I struggle to believe you really couldn't see how someone might have had Jamie pop into their heads given the very particular circumstances.

I suggest you read the post above where a poster shared something similar happening here to a poor young girl closer in age to OP's DD.