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Trans nursery workers?

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ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 18:26

Am I being unreasonable to feel increasingly uncomfortable with my child’s nursery?

A couple of weeks ago they shared a post on the parents app about two people with feminine names completing some training. One of the people pictured was clearly male. I found them on instagram and they are a trans woman. Now this person did not work at my child’s actual nursery, just one of the other settings in the franchise, although they do occasionally switch the staff around, it’s not often. So I thought, I don’t like it, but ultimately moving my child because of somebody working at a different setting is unreasonable. Also it took my child a while to be comfortable and now they really enjoy it. (3y and verbal which also makes a difference too)

Then last week there’s a post about our nursery setting and a reshuffle of staff. Now working at our nursery is another trans person. A female this time who identifies as male. I confirmed them as trans through their instagram again, which honestly contains a lot of potentially worrying stuff. Very heavy on the transition side, art about top surgery, testosterone, nude art, “protecting trans youth” and protests.

Both individuals are young and I haven’t met either, however apparently my child knows the trans man (female).

I’m really not sure what to do if anything? Obviously I have no right to tell them who to hire, and I have no wish to be cruel to these young people.

But I cannot deny the feeling I have in my gut. I feel like my boundaries are being pushed and I’m worried about what their potential motives are for suddenly hiring two trans people and posting about them on the parenting portals/social media in increasing frequency.

There has been a change in management, but I have no idea who is in charge of hiring.

Will it matter as they are young? (The children) Because the trans individual at my child’s actual nursery is female would you be worried? I feel so unsure. It’s very recent so I’m weighing my options.

I will likely only openly share my thoughts on this if I decide to remove my child, as I believe that saying anything will not result in anything positive, and in fact could mean my child is “educated” because of their “horrible bigoted family”.

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5128gap · 13/04/2026 19:24

I don't think that men, TI or otherwise should be working in nurseries, so I'd have the same concerns about the TIM as any other man. The TIF wouldn't worry me any more than any other woman.
I don't want men in women's spaces and I don't want men around small children in environments where the vetting and supervision often falls short.
I do accept that people with a trans identity have the right to, and will, inhabit public spaces and will be employed, and that it is inevitable children will encounter them, and don't think its appropriate to seek to keep children from them merely on the basis of their trans identity.
I think its up to us as parents how we explain trans people to our children in an age appropriate way. And at 3, it would be unlikely to present an issue. But if it did, for example if the person was teaching them things I felt inappropriate, I'd address this with the nursey in terms of the specifics.
It is after all entirely possible that young non trans allies amongst the staff could also be telling the children things you'd rather they didn't. So it's behaviour rather than the fact she's a TIF that matters.

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 19:22

If you don’t believe in gender (but admit there are stereotypes)

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 19:16

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 19:12

gender stereotypes exist. But also due to biological differences, there are obviously some differences in clothing. Shape, underwear are sex specific.

???

you can’t see people’s underwear (apart from all the celebs now posing naked nearly!)

so when you say men are acting out a fetish you mean wearing clothes that don’t match their shape?

wouldnt you have to look really close and include all people In poorly fitting clothes?

ElenOfTheWays · 13/04/2026 19:13

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this person has not shared their beliefs with you or your child and i am sure they never will

I'm equally certain they definitely WILL share their belief with the children. In fact, just by enacting that belief they are doing so.

Kids CAN tell men from women you know? It's completely disingenuous to pretend they can't.

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 19:12

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 19:05

If you don’t believe in gender how can you say that certain clothes are for women only?

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gender stereotypes exist. But also due to biological differences, there are obviously some differences in clothing. Shape, underwear are sex specific.

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ElenOfTheWays · 13/04/2026 19:07

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 19:00

It isn’t TRA putting pressure on women to believe trans people have changed biological sex I’m afraid.

Of course it is. That many other ridiculously captured people are going along with it, doesn't change where the narrative is coming from

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 19:05

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 18:56

I’m not sure about a female identifying as male posing a greater risk for abuse, although I think more likely to be passionate about educating children about gender identity.

However a male identifying as female is a greater risk than a male who knows he’s male, I think, considering dressing in women’s clothing is a fetish for many (obviously not all) and often people have more than one at a time.

If you don’t believe in gender how can you say that certain clothes are for women only?

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 19:03

ainsleysanob · 13/04/2026 19:00

No. I would move my child.

There was a post not so long ago regarding male nursery staff, this is no different. I wouldn’t want any male stranger having access to my child especially not one with mental health issues.

The male is at a different nursery, but under the same franchise. Occasionally they switch staff, so it’s not 100% impossible that person could end up at my child’s nursery, but fairly unlikely.

the trans person at my child’s nursery is female who identifies as a male.

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ElenOfTheWays · 13/04/2026 19:01

TheCompactPussycat · 13/04/2026 18:50

Why would a female identifying as male pose a greater sexual abuse risk than a female identifying as a female? Why would a male identifying as female pose a greater risk than a male identifying as male?

You are free to feel uncomfortable about people who aren't like you or who don't conform to the standards you think are correct. You are free to remove your child. Anything beyond that would be unreasonable.

Why would a male identifying as female pose a greater risk than a male identifying as male?

Because they do. Over 60% of trans identified men in prison are there for rape and sexual abuse as compared to 15% of men who do not identify as trans. This includes CSA.

Frankly though, I'd be concerned about ANY man who wanted to look after small children but especially one who was probably enacting a sexual fetish.

The danger from trans identified women is more ideological. They are no more likely to physically abuse a child than any other woman. But far more likely to lie to that child about gender and changing sex.

Hallamule · 13/04/2026 19:01

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 19:00

It isn’t TRA putting pressure on women to believe trans people have changed biological sex I’m afraid.

Who then?

ainsleysanob · 13/04/2026 19:00

No. I would move my child.

There was a post not so long ago regarding male nursery staff, this is no different. I wouldn’t want any male stranger having access to my child especially not one with mental health issues.

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 19:00

Waftaround · 13/04/2026 18:54

If you have a fundamental issue with trans people and how they live then of course you should remove your child. That’s entirely your decision to make. Rather that then make demands to the employer about who they are allowed to employ.

I don’t agree there is an increased risk of abuse with any particular sex or gender working with children as long as robust and appropriate safeguards are in place.

No adult should have any opportunity to abuse a child in a nursery/school/any other setting.

I have a fundamental issue with telling children that you can change sex , however I need to weigh up what I think is more important, which may change as the situation changes.

i mean it’s a statistical fact that men pose a far greater risk than females to children. It’s not an opinion.

safeguards fail, unfortunately.

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DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 19:00

Hallamule · 13/04/2026 18:53

Very few trans people think they have changed sex

So why all the "Trans women are women. No debate" then? Why all the silencing and shaming for those that disagreed? Why all the trans women in women's wards, and sports and prisons? If most trans people don't believe that they've changed sex, why all the pressure on the rest of us to believe they had?

It isn’t TRA putting pressure on women to believe trans people have changed biological sex I’m afraid.

Robogob · 13/04/2026 18:59

Not a chance. I’d remove my kids. Children should not be taught that their boundaries are meaningless. They also shouldn’t be lied to. Girls especially need to know who men are.

Stoneycold12 · 13/04/2026 18:57

I'd be concerned too that it seems to be a deliberate ploy from the management.

But in this case, the kids aren't going to know that the transman is in fact a biological woman, unless she brings it up, which would be incredibly unprofessional.

I wouldn't want a trans identifying male nursery worker, as there have been too many cases of male nursery workers abusing kids.

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 18:56

TheCompactPussycat · 13/04/2026 18:50

Why would a female identifying as male pose a greater sexual abuse risk than a female identifying as a female? Why would a male identifying as female pose a greater risk than a male identifying as male?

You are free to feel uncomfortable about people who aren't like you or who don't conform to the standards you think are correct. You are free to remove your child. Anything beyond that would be unreasonable.

I’m not sure about a female identifying as male posing a greater risk for abuse, although I think more likely to be passionate about educating children about gender identity.

However a male identifying as female is a greater risk than a male who knows he’s male, I think, considering dressing in women’s clothing is a fetish for many (obviously not all) and often people have more than one at a time.

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Alwaysontherun · 13/04/2026 18:55

I think your concerns are valid and much as I respect anyone’s right to choose what they do to their own body I’m not sure that I would feel comfortable sending my child. It’s a sensitive subject but in a nursery setting everyone has a right to feel comfortable with the people they leave their children with.

Waftaround · 13/04/2026 18:54

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 18:35

Combination of normalising the idea that you can change sex. Normalising regressive gender stereotypes (ie if you are stereotypically different from your sex, it’s because you are the opposite sex) and of course I am slightly worried about abuse, less so that from the female member who identifies as male.

If you have a fundamental issue with trans people and how they live then of course you should remove your child. That’s entirely your decision to make. Rather that then make demands to the employer about who they are allowed to employ.

I don’t agree there is an increased risk of abuse with any particular sex or gender working with children as long as robust and appropriate safeguards are in place.

No adult should have any opportunity to abuse a child in a nursery/school/any other setting.

Hallamule · 13/04/2026 18:53

Very few trans people think they have changed sex

So why all the "Trans women are women. No debate" then? Why all the silencing and shaming for those that disagreed? Why all the trans women in women's wards, and sports and prisons? If most trans people don't believe that they've changed sex, why all the pressure on the rest of us to believe they had?

SoulFood · 13/04/2026 18:53

ShetlandishMum · 13/04/2026 18:37

I wouldn't mind. It's a nursery teacher.

No disrespect, but this is NOT NOT NOT a nursery teacher. They have training and degrees etc. Anyone can work in a day nursery

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 18:52

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 18:50

*small minority

It’s a fairly mainstream view these days, so I think it’s likely that these people think that. It’s certainly considered wrong to call them by their actual sex. (Ie to say a trans woman is male is 100% considered transphobic)

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StealthMama · 13/04/2026 18:51

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 18:43

I don’t want my child growing up with the false notion that you can change sex.

Would you be ok with a trans person who understands biology and knows they have only changed their gender?

Very few trans people think they have changed sex.

Are you for real? The whole notion is that they have adopted a ‘gender’ that over rides sexed bodies and biology is irrelevant. The latest that taking HRT actually changes your chromosome make up to that of the opposite sex so you literally change sex. Some Women have a penis, that’s all.

This has no place around children of this age.

TheCompactPussycat · 13/04/2026 18:50

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 18:35

Combination of normalising the idea that you can change sex. Normalising regressive gender stereotypes (ie if you are stereotypically different from your sex, it’s because you are the opposite sex) and of course I am slightly worried about abuse, less so that from the female member who identifies as male.

Why would a female identifying as male pose a greater sexual abuse risk than a female identifying as a female? Why would a male identifying as female pose a greater risk than a male identifying as male?

You are free to feel uncomfortable about people who aren't like you or who don't conform to the standards you think are correct. You are free to remove your child. Anything beyond that would be unreasonable.

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