Trans nursery workers?

I suppose it depends how you define causing no harm to others. To some this causes harm. I am also a feminist.

This is literally a major feminist position.

Self-identification with no checks or investigation has been what trans activists have been advocating. Feminists have been pointing out the problems.

Why on earth are you cross with feminists that trans activists got their way?

The UK doesn’t have legal self-id because feminists put up a fight. But a lot of self-id policies were introduced through the back door, including in the prison service. It is feminist organizations that are campaigning against self-id, because of exactly the problems you mention.

I don’t want my child growing up with the false notion that you can change sex.

Would you be ok with a trans person who understands biology and knows they have only changed their gender?

Very few trans people think they have changed sex.

This is literally what the row has been about for the last 7 years.

Feminists said self-id as the basis of trans status in law wasn’t a good idea because some predatory men would lie. People like you called us bigots.

Now you are calling us bigots because, as expected, some men lied and are being treated as trans by the criminal justice system on the basis of self-identification. Which is what trans activists advocated for.

This is literally a major feminist position.

Self-identification with no checks or investigation has been what trans activists have been advocating. Feminists have been pointing out the problems.

Why on earth are you cross with feminists that trans activists got their way?

The UK doesn’t have legal self-id because feminists put up a fight. But a lot of self-id policies were introduced through the back door, including in the prison service. It is feminist organizations that are campaigning against self-id, because of exactly the problems you mention.

Didn't say it was!

I would have hoped that for such claims to be considered valid in a prison setting, the individual should have verifiable evidence of identifying as such, not just deciding thats how they now feel!

Or you know, prisons being effective and safe to alllow for rehabilitation and punishment, rathe than allowing violent criminals to take justice into their own hands.

Flawed systems are bad for everyone and marginalised people suffer the most.

All this outcry around trans women, yet STILL no real accountability for male predators... i give you Donald Trump president of the US!

In that case, pushing for a definition of trans that encompasses anyone who says they are trans wasn’t a success, was it?

You are aware that the majority of trans women identifying as such in prison arent actually trans women?

They are cis men claiming to be trans women to secure imprisonment away from male prisoners,.which is much preferred by inmates, particularly those convicted of violent and sexual offences to children, due to the risk they face from fellow male inmates of rape and beatings when their conviction is revealed.

I'd be interested to see how many of these crimes were committed by offenders whilst actually living AS trans women compared to how many are then subsequently charged, sentenced and imprisoned as alleged trans women. 🤔

Once again, PREDATORY MEN are gaming the very broken system at the expense of women and trans people!

I struggle to understand how anyone who considers themselves a feminist could believe the bullshittery that we are at risk from trans people, rather than seeing the risk is from broken systems and lack of accountability to protect against actual predators!

… so if nfollow your thinking all the women who were first in their field should not have bothered but stayed at home for a “ quiet life “ all the black people who broke barriers were a bit odd and should have chosen a different career so as not to rock the boat ? V strange thinking you have going on

are you seriously suggesting they have studied and spent time training just to be a bit controversial in their career ? And they should have change careers? How odd

You are aware that the majority of trans women identifying as such in prison arent actually trans women?

They are cis men claiming to be trans women to secure imprisonment away from male prisoners,.which is much preferred by inmates, particularly those convicted of violent and sexual offences to children, due to the risk they face from fellow male inmates of rape and beatings when their conviction is revealed.

I'd be interested to see how many of these crimes were committed by offenders whilst actually living AS trans women compared to how many are then subsequently charged, sentenced and imprisoned as alleged trans women. 🤔

Once again, PREDATORY MEN are gaming the very broken system at the expense of women and trans people!

I struggle to understand how anyone who considers themselves a feminist could believe the bullshittery that we are at risk from trans people, rather than seeing the risk is from broken systems and lack of accountability to protect against actual predators!

Frankly though, I'd be concerned about ANY man who wanted to look after small children

why?

It's strange how all those defending male trans nursery workers have fallen silent since I posted the article of a male trans nursery worker being arrested for abuse.

It's almost like trans men and sexual abuse go hand in hand. If you believe you can change sex then you are not in the right frame of mind to be educating tiny, vulnerable children.

Of course a man pretending to be a woman and applying to work with society's most vulnerable is going to raise a few eyebrows and quite rightly so.

lol @Endoadnowarriorcan you tell us please how the op would know if this particular trans woman is cis claiming to be trans or actually trans?

You are aware that the majority of trans women identifying as such in prison arent actually trans women?

They are cis men claiming to be trans women to secure imprisonment away from male prisoners,.which is much preferred by inmates, particularly those convicted of violent and sexual offences to children, due to the risk they face from fellow male inmates of rape and beatings when their conviction is revealed.

I'd be interested to see how many of these crimes were committed by offenders whilst actually living AS trans women compared to how many are then subsequently charged, sentenced and imprisoned as alleged trans women. 🤔

You are aware that the majority of trans women identifying as such in prison arent actually trans women?

They are cis men claiming to be trans women to secure imprisonment away from male prisoners,.which is much preferred by inmates, particularly those convicted of violent and sexual offences to children, due to the risk they face from fellow male inmates of rape and beatings when their conviction is revealed.

I'd be interested to see how many of these crimes were committed by offenders whilst actually living AS trans women compared to how many are then subsequently charged, sentenced and imprisoned as alleged trans women. 🤔

You are aware that the majority of trans women identifying as such in prison arent actually trans women?

They are cis men claiming to be trans women to secure imprisonment away from male prisoners,.which is much preferred by inmates, particularly those convicted of violent and sexual offences to children, due to the risk they face from fellow male inmates of rape and beatings when their conviction is revealed.

I'd be interested to see how many of these crimes were committed by offenders whilst actually living AS trans women compared to how many are then subsequently charged, sentenced and imprisoned as alleged trans women. 🤔

Why would a male identifying as female pose a greater risk than a male identifying as male?

Because they do. Over 60% of trans identified men in prison are there for rape and sexual abuse as compared to 15% of men who do not identify as trans. This includes CSA.

Frankly though, I'd be concerned about ANY man who wanted to look after small children but especially one who was probably enacting a sexual fetish.

The danger from trans identified women is more ideological. They are no more likely to physically abuse a child than any other woman. But far more likely to lie to that child about gender and changing sex.