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Trans nursery workers?

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ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 18:26

Am I being unreasonable to feel increasingly uncomfortable with my child’s nursery?

A couple of weeks ago they shared a post on the parents app about two people with feminine names completing some training. One of the people pictured was clearly male. I found them on instagram and they are a trans woman. Now this person did not work at my child’s actual nursery, just one of the other settings in the franchise, although they do occasionally switch the staff around, it’s not often. So I thought, I don’t like it, but ultimately moving my child because of somebody working at a different setting is unreasonable. Also it took my child a while to be comfortable and now they really enjoy it. (3y and verbal which also makes a difference too)

Then last week there’s a post about our nursery setting and a reshuffle of staff. Now working at our nursery is another trans person. A female this time who identifies as male. I confirmed them as trans through their instagram again, which honestly contains a lot of potentially worrying stuff. Very heavy on the transition side, art about top surgery, testosterone, nude art, “protecting trans youth” and protests.

Both individuals are young and I haven’t met either, however apparently my child knows the trans man (female).

I’m really not sure what to do if anything? Obviously I have no right to tell them who to hire, and I have no wish to be cruel to these young people.

But I cannot deny the feeling I have in my gut. I feel like my boundaries are being pushed and I’m worried about what their potential motives are for suddenly hiring two trans people and posting about them on the parenting portals/social media in increasing frequency.

There has been a change in management, but I have no idea who is in charge of hiring.

Will it matter as they are young? (The children) Because the trans individual at my child’s actual nursery is female would you be worried? I feel so unsure. It’s very recent so I’m weighing my options.

I will likely only openly share my thoughts on this if I decide to remove my child, as I believe that saying anything will not result in anything positive, and in fact could mean my child is “educated” because of their “horrible bigoted family”.

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HeyThereDelila · 13/04/2026 22:03

YANBU. Follow your instincts and withdraw your child.

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:59

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:57

I hadn’t thought about it

i don’t think your child would be on social media so wouldn’t see it

I can’t envisage a situation where staff would be talking to 0-3 year olds about testosterone gel

I don’t think you are arguing in good faith.

I’ve clearly stated my concern is not with my child seeing social media.

testosterone gel can be transferred from skin to skin contact and can cause serious issues in children.

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5128gap · 13/04/2026 21:59

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 21:40

So what is the solution? Change the legislation so only bio women can teach children?

That wouldn’t stop a grown women who identifies as a ‘boy’ so they can ‘date’ girls applying for a job and getting access to even younger girls.

That makes no sense. If only women were allowed to teach children then the girls would know that the grown woman identifying as a boy to access them was not in fact a boy. Because the sheer fact she was their teacher would identify her as a woman.
I'm not advocating that only women are allowed to teach children BTW, just highlighting the lack of logic in your thinking.

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:57

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:54

Oh right, yes. I’m not worried they will see social media, but that they will bring those views to my child.

you don’t know what a creep is?

if they are aroused by dressing as a woman, then clearly it is about being turned on. Many trans women admit to this. It’s not a secret.

what is your opinion on the potential risk of exposure to testosterone gel?

I hadn’t thought about it

i don’t think your child would be on social media so wouldn’t see it

I can’t envisage a situation where staff would be talking to 0-3 year olds about testosterone gel

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:56

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:53

???

I don’t know why they would be needing to voice it or identify it - in your view the are the same

if a member of staff has a concern about another member of staff being a risk to children, it’s their duty to report it. As parents we don’t see much of the everyday activities, we are not there.

do you think you would be comfortable with a nursery worker being aroused by wearing women’s clothing and being around children?

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Usernamefuture · 13/04/2026 21:56

I worked in a nursery at 21. I was ace at it. There was a male nursery nurse too who was fantastic. What I'd it you're getting at?

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:54

Bumblebeeforever · 13/04/2026 21:51

When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

Yes do

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:54

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:49

You said you were worried about things you’d seen on sm for your child

im not sure its about being turned on

your conflating creeps (whatever they are) with trans people - starting always from a place trans people are dangerous

Oh right, yes. I’m not worried they will see social media, but that they will bring those views to my child.

you don’t know what a creep is?

if they are aroused by dressing as a woman, then clearly it is about being turned on. Many trans women admit to this. It’s not a secret.

what is your opinion on the potential risk of exposure to testosterone gel?

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Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:53

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:46

If its discrimination to conflate them, and a staff member suspects that a trans nursery worker is in fact a transvestite, would they be free to voice this concern without being accused of discrimination?

???

I don’t know why they would be needing to voice it or identify it - in your view the are the same

Bumblebeeforever · 13/04/2026 21:51

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:49

You said you were worried about things you’d seen on sm for your child

im not sure its about being turned on

your conflating creeps (whatever they are) with trans people - starting always from a place trans people are dangerous

When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:49

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:43

how would you tell the difference between a male who wants to appear female for genuine reasons and a male who wants to appear female because it turns them on. Some will be obvious of course, but not all will. I’m not saying I believe this person 100% is a problem, but I wouldn’t know would I.

what does sm have to do with anything?

no one can ever screen all creeps out, and plenty of creeps have and do target nurseries to work in.

You said you were worried about things you’d seen on sm for your child

im not sure its about being turned on

your conflating creeps (whatever they are) with trans people - starting always from a place trans people are dangerous

Hallamule · 13/04/2026 21:47

you can think independently you know

Is that not "literal violence "?

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:46

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:44

They might be under the umbrella but it’s definitely not the same and discrimination to conflate them

you can think independently you know

If its discrimination to conflate them, and a staff member suspects that a trans nursery worker is in fact a transvestite, would they be free to voice this concern without being accused of discrimination?

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Hallamule · 13/04/2026 21:46

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 21:40

So what is the solution? Change the legislation so only bio women can teach children?

That wouldn’t stop a grown women who identifies as a ‘boy’ so they can ‘date’ girls applying for a job and getting access to even younger girls.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. By "neither" I meant that I would want my children taught neither by people who think people can change sex, nor those who promote gender ideology in place of sex.

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:44

Hallamule · 13/04/2026 21:41

Tranvestism is not transgenderism

Wrong again. That used to be the case but thanks to the TRAs, transvestites now come under the transgender umbrella. (And it's transphobic to argue otherwise btw).

They might be under the umbrella but it’s definitely not the same and discrimination to conflate them

you can think independently you know

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:43

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:34

Again transvestism is not transgenderism

I assume your child won’t be on sm while they are nursery age so no need to worry there. I don’t think they will be asking you to remove their breasts or genitals either while they are nursery age

I guess you tell the difference between people who are “creeps” using all the things you normally do - you make judgements through your intuition - but the nursery would have done this for you

how would you tell the difference between a male who wants to appear female for genuine reasons and a male who wants to appear female because it turns them on. Some will be obvious of course, but not all will. I’m not saying I believe this person 100% is a problem, but I wouldn’t know would I.

what does sm have to do with anything?

no one can ever screen all creeps out, and plenty of creeps have and do target nurseries to work in.

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Hallamule · 13/04/2026 21:41

Tranvestism is not transgenderism

Wrong again. That used to be the case but thanks to the TRAs, transvestites now come under the transgender umbrella. (And it's transphobic to argue otherwise btw).

Bumblebeeforever · 13/04/2026 21:41

I wouldn’t like this, I would remove my child. I think a nursery is totally different to any other service you pay for. Do I care if the person washing my hair at the hairdressers or serving me in the pub has dodgy pictures on instagram? not really, do I want someone like that looking after my child, absolutely not.

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 21:40

Hallamule · 13/04/2026 21:37

How about - neither? It's perfectly possible to think sex is rooted in biology and gender is a societal requirement to conform to a set of sexual stereotypes.

So what is the solution? Change the legislation so only bio women can teach children?

That wouldn’t stop a grown women who identifies as a ‘boy’ so they can ‘date’ girls applying for a job and getting access to even younger girls.

Hallamule · 13/04/2026 21:37

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 21:27

You would be happy with them being taught by someone who believes they can change their sex?

How about - neither? It's perfectly possible to think sex is rooted in biology and gender is a societal requirement to conform to a set of sexual stereotypes.

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 13/04/2026 21:34

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:26

Because some trans women have a fetish for dressing in women’s clothing. Have a browse through r/mtf. How can you tell if a trans woman is genuine or a creepy man. Often fetishis come in groups and men who get off on dressing as women are often into other things. Voyerism for example. (I know one such person, they do not advertise that they are a pervert, but I know them to be)

this is my child’s nursery where they have access to vulnerable children. I am allowed to have concerns.

introducing to my child the false idea that they can change sex is potentially dangerous as it can lead down a path of harm (removal of breasts or genitals, mental health issues)

not to mention that one of the individuals shared about taking testosterone gel on their sm, which could carry potential harms to children if they are not extremely careful.

Again transvestism is not transgenderism

I assume your child won’t be on sm while they are nursery age so no need to worry there. I don’t think they will be asking you to remove their breasts or genitals either while they are nursery age

I guess you tell the difference between people who are “creeps” using all the things you normally do - you make judgements through your intuition - but the nursery would have done this for you

LVhandbagsatdawn · 13/04/2026 21:34

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 21:27

You would be happy with them being taught by someone who believes they can change their sex?

Odds are many nursery children are being taught by someone who believes the earth was created in seven days, or that reincarnation is real, or that the earth is flat.

People can believe whatever they like. As long as they're professional at work, it doesn't matter.

Endoadnowarrior · 13/04/2026 21:29

CopsandRobbers · 13/04/2026 20:21

It's strange how all those defending male trans nursery workers have fallen silent since I posted the article of a male trans nursery worker being arrested for abuse.

It's almost like trans men and sexual abuse go hand in hand. If you believe you can change sex then you are not in the right frame of mind to be educating tiny, vulnerable children.

Of course a man pretending to be a woman and applying to work with society's most vulnerable is going to raise a few eyebrows and quite rightly so.

It opened to a "page not found" i did try to read it

Sexual abuse goes hand in hand with abusers. Regardless of gender.

DripDripAprilshower · 13/04/2026 21:27

Hamalam · 13/04/2026 21:04

No. I don’t want my child to think gender is a thing. It’s not. It’s just a pile of sexist stereotypes.

You would be happy with them being taught by someone who believes they can change their sex?

ThatWaryGreenBiscuit · 13/04/2026 21:26

Endoadnowarrior · 13/04/2026 21:18

Please tell me how a man identifying as a trans woman causes direct harm to you?

In what tangible ways does that individual's choice on how they chose to live their life, by what name or pro noun they wish to use, or what clothes or accessories they choose to wear cause you real emotional or physical harm?

I am genuinely interested, please do humour me because im at a loss and i would like to understand.

Because some trans women have a fetish for dressing in women’s clothing. Have a browse through r/mtf. How can you tell if a trans woman is genuine or a creepy man. Often fetishis come in groups and men who get off on dressing as women are often into other things. Voyerism for example. (I know one such person, they do not advertise that they are a pervert, but I know them to be)

this is my child’s nursery where they have access to vulnerable children. I am allowed to have concerns.

introducing to my child the false idea that they can change sex is potentially dangerous as it can lead down a path of harm (removal of breasts or genitals, mental health issues)

not to mention that one of the individuals shared about taking testosterone gel on their sm, which could carry potential harms to children if they are not extremely careful.

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