Trans nursery workers?

I am obviously a woman, if you cared to look at my username.

Wowsers, you really don't understand how stats work do you? I sincerely hope you are arent involved in anything to do with finance or numbers! :-)

You are suggesting that we preclude ALL transgender people from working with children simply because they are trans? Regardless of any screening or safeguarding measures that actually keep them safe from harm.

Of the individuals found guilty of sexual offenses against children in 23/24, around 98.8% (7166) were male and 1.2% (83) were female.
https://www.csacentre.org.uk/app/uploads/2025/03/Child-sexual-abuse-in-2023-24-Trends-in-official-data.pdf

In 2024, only 295 prisoners in the whole of the UK prisoner population identified as transgender.

Even if ALL of them were biologically male and convicted of child sexual offences (and they aren't and weren't) that still represents only 4% of ALL individuals found guilty of sexual offences against children.

In reality it's more like 1.5% of all those convicted of a sexual offence against children, who identify as trans women.

So statistically speaking the prevalence of a trans women found guilty of committing sexual offences against a child was only slightly higher than biological women (1.2%).

Furthermore the majority of these transgender prisoners were male at the point of committing the crime/prosecution and have only transitioned to trans women at conviction/during imprisonment. They would NOT have been perceived as women by their victims. So excluding trans women from working with children isn't going to help because they aren't identifiable as trans women when they commit the crime! We'd need to exclude all men too, and posters have already agreed that only biological women taking these roles is nonsense. I mean where would we stop? No male pediatricians? No male gynaecologists? No male teachers?

Convicted individuals will NEVER be able to work with children or vulnerable adults on release as sexual offences are never "spent" and will always be disclosed on DBS checks.

Given that the whole transgender population of the UK in 2021 census was reported to be only 0.54% of the population, the number of transgender prisoners actually convicted of any sexual offence represents only 0.0002% of the entire population, compared to 0.0114% of men, it really is important to put the perceived risk into perspective.

Whilst any sexual offence against children (or indeed anyone) is one too many, the evidence shows that the real risk of sexual abuse to children isn't from trans women.

Awful people of all genders and backgrounds are capable of doing awful things, and the "sensational ones" committed by "outsiders" e.g. trans women,.ethnic minorities/non British men always make the headlines, by and large its white British men who are the perpetrators of sexual offences against children in the UK.

Surely as women, after years of oppression, we should be joining forces with the marginalised and oppressed trans community to stop all sexual violence and abuse against all women and children,.from anyone, not "punching down" on trans women in a misguided attempt to keep ourselves and our children safe from what by and large is predatory men.

Because predatory men are STILL overwhelmingly the men we have always recognised them to be - they really aren't masquerading as trans women to commit these crimes, they dont need to.

Because whilst we are so busy trying to avoid a potential rogue zebra in the stampede, we are missing the very obvious danger that is the herds of horses bearing down on us.

We must not lose sight that 1000s of children every year are sexually abused in their own homes by male family members and friends, and so many more offences are never reported let alone convictions secured. Come on people, use your critical thinking.

You don't have to agree with others ideology or self belief to recognise the real dangers.

All nursery staff go through the same DBS checks regardless of gender or gender identity. The discomfort you express isn't really about safeguarding procedures — it's about the presence of a trans person itself.

So I find the framing of this question a little disingenuous, and perhaps rather a way for you to get lots of back pats from a community known for its transphobic (ahem “Gender Critical”) content?

Am I being unreasonable to feel increasingly uncomfortable with my child’s nursery?

A couple of weeks ago they shared a post on the parents app about two people with feminine names completing some training. One of the people pictured was clearly male. I found them on instagram and they are a trans woman. Now this person did not work at my child’s actual nursery, just one of the other settings in the franchise, although they do occasionally switch the staff around, it’s not often. So I thought, I don’t like it, but ultimately moving my child because of somebody working at a different setting is unreasonable. Also it took my child a while to be comfortable and now they really enjoy it. (3y and verbal which also makes a difference too)

Then last week there’s a post about our nursery setting and a reshuffle of staff. Now working at our nursery is another trans person. A female this time who identifies as male. I confirmed them as trans through their instagram again, which honestly contains a lot of potentially worrying stuff. Very heavy on the transition side, art about top surgery, testosterone, nude art, “protecting trans youth” and protests.

Both individuals are young and I haven’t met either, however apparently my child knows the trans man (female).

I’m really not sure what to do if anything? Obviously I have no right to tell them who to hire, and I have no wish to be cruel to these young people.

But I cannot deny the feeling I have in my gut. I feel like my boundaries are being pushed and I’m worried about what their potential motives are for suddenly hiring two trans people and posting about them on the parenting portals/social media in increasing frequency.

There has been a change in management, but I have no idea who is in charge of hiring.

Will it matter as they are young? (The children) Because the trans individual at my child’s actual nursery is female would you be worried? I feel so unsure. It’s very recent so I’m weighing my options.

I will likely only openly share my thoughts on this if I decide to remove my child, as I believe that saying anything will not result in anything positive, and in fact could mean my child is “educated” because of their “horrible bigoted family”.

I am obviously a woman, if you cared to look at my username.

Wowsers, you really don't understand how stats work do you? I sincerely hope you are arent involved in anything to do with finance or numbers! :-)

You are suggesting that we preclude ALL transgender people from working with children simply because they are trans? Regardless of any screening or safeguarding measures that actually keep them safe from harm.

Of the individuals found guilty of sexual offenses against children in 23/24, around 98.8% (7166) were male and 1.2% (83) were female.
https://www.csacentre.org.uk/app/uploads/2025/03/Child-sexual-abuse-in-2023-24-Trends-in-official-data.pdf

In 2024, only 295 prisoners in the whole of the UK prisoner population identified as transgender.

Even if ALL of them were biologically male and convicted of child sexual offences (and they aren't and weren't) that still represents only 4% of ALL individuals found guilty of sexual offences against children.

In reality it's more like 1.5% of all those convicted of a sexual offence against children, who identify as trans women.

So statistically speaking the prevalence of a trans women found guilty of committing sexual offences against a child was only slightly higher than biological women (1.2%).

Furthermore the majority of these transgender prisoners were male at the point of committing the crime/prosecution and have only transitioned to trans women at conviction/during imprisonment. They would NOT have been perceived as women by their victims. So excluding trans women from working with children isn't going to help because they aren't identifiable as trans women when they commit the crime! We'd need to exclude all men too, and posters have already agreed that only biological women taking these roles is nonsense. I mean where would we stop? No male pediatricians? No male gynaecologists? No male teachers?

Convicted individuals will NEVER be able to work with children or vulnerable adults on release as sexual offences are never "spent" and will always be disclosed on DBS checks.

Given that the whole transgender population of the UK in 2021 census was reported to be only 0.54% of the population, the number of transgender prisoners actually convicted of any sexual offence represents only 0.0002% of the entire population, compared to 0.0114% of men, it really is important to put the perceived risk into perspective.

Whilst any sexual offence against children (or indeed anyone) is one too many, the evidence shows that the real risk of sexual abuse to children isn't from trans women.

Awful people of all genders and backgrounds are capable of doing awful things, and the "sensational ones" committed by "outsiders" e.g. trans women,.ethnic minorities/non British men always make the headlines, by and large its white British men who are the perpetrators of sexual offences against children in the UK.

Surely as women, after years of oppression, we should be joining forces with the marginalised and oppressed trans community to stop all sexual violence and abuse against all women and children,.from anyone, not "punching down" on trans women in a misguided attempt to keep ourselves and our children safe from what by and large is predatory men.

Because predatory men are STILL overwhelmingly the men we have always recognised them to be - they really aren't masquerading as trans women to commit these crimes, they dont need to.

Because whilst we are so busy trying to avoid a potential rogue zebra in the stampede, we are missing the very obvious danger that is the herds of horses bearing down on us.

We must not lose sight that 1000s of children every year are sexually abused in their own homes by male family members and friends, and so many more offences are never reported let alone convictions secured. Come on people, use your critical thinking.

You don't have to agree with others ideology or self belief to recognise the real dangers.

@Endoadnowarrior you are honestly delusional.

Imagine being happy to throw the most vulnerable in our society under a bus and statistically speaking, put them in unnecessary, avoidable potential harm.

If you want to put your child in with grown adults that like to play pretend then go for it, but don't expect the rest of the sane population to play along with you.

I seriously hope that you are not a woman.

Because some trans women have a fetish for dressing in women’s clothing. Have a browse through r/mtf. How can you tell if a trans woman is genuine or a creepy man. Often fetishis come in groups and men who get off on dressing as women are often into other things. Voyerism for example. (I know one such person, they do not advertise that they are a pervert, but I know them to be)

this is my child’s nursery where they have access to vulnerable children. I am allowed to have concerns.

introducing to my child the false idea that they can change sex is potentially dangerous as it can lead down a path of harm (removal of breasts or genitals, mental health issues)

not to mention that one of the individuals shared about taking testosterone gel on their sm, which could carry potential harms to children if they are not extremely careful.

Trans identified men commit sexual offenses at a higher rate than other men. And as unenlightened aa it makes me, I wouldn't use a nursery with any male workers anyway.

how would you tell the difference between a male who wants to appear female for genuine reasons and a male who wants to appear female because it turns them on. Some will be obvious of course, but not all will. I’m not saying I believe this person 100% is a problem, but I wouldn’t know would I.

what does sm have to do with anything?

no one can ever screen all creeps out, and plenty of creeps have and do target nurseries to work in.

Am I being unreasonable to feel increasingly uncomfortable with my child’s nursery?

A couple of weeks ago they shared a post on the parents app about two people with feminine names completing some training. One of the people pictured was clearly male. I found them on instagram and they are a trans woman. Now this person did not work at my child’s actual nursery, just one of the other settings in the franchise, although they do occasionally switch the staff around, it’s not often. So I thought, I don’t like it, but ultimately moving my child because of somebody working at a different setting is unreasonable. Also it took my child a while to be comfortable and now they really enjoy it. (3y and verbal which also makes a difference too)

Then last week there’s a post about our nursery setting and a reshuffle of staff. Now working at our nursery is another trans person. A female this time who identifies as male. I confirmed them as trans through their instagram again, which honestly contains a lot of potentially worrying stuff. Very heavy on the transition side, art about top surgery, testosterone, nude art, “protecting trans youth” and protests.

Both individuals are young and I haven’t met either, however apparently my child knows the trans man (female).

I’m really not sure what to do if anything? Obviously I have no right to tell them who to hire, and I have no wish to be cruel to these young people.

But I cannot deny the feeling I have in my gut. I feel like my boundaries are being pushed and I’m worried about what their potential motives are for suddenly hiring two trans people and posting about them on the parenting portals/social media in increasing frequency.

There has been a change in management, but I have no idea who is in charge of hiring.

Will it matter as they are young? (The children) Because the trans individual at my child’s actual nursery is female would you be worried? I feel so unsure. It’s very recent so I’m weighing my options.

I will likely only openly share my thoughts on this if I decide to remove my child, as I believe that saying anything will not result in anything positive, and in fact could mean my child is “educated” because of their “horrible bigoted family”.

This.
Plus how bloody confusing for a little one.

No thanks, I wouldn’t like that. There’s been cases recently of male nursery workers abusing children, I wouldn’t want a man in a dress near to my child.

Their sm posts show their opinions, their worldviews and they are clearly extremely passionate about being trans and posted several things that led me to think they may feel it’s their duty to educate on gender identity, which I would not be comfortable with.

I do not think they would show their sm account to my child, or any child. My child cannot read, so obviously isn’t scrolling sm and won’t be for as long as is healthy/possible.

I do think they might talk about it to the children (gender identity). I’m not 100% sure, but it may come up, especially if they don’t pass as a man.

You haven’t answered about the testosterone gel?

Yes, I know they are. And if only women were allowed to be teachers, trans 'boys/men' would be allowed to be teachers.
However, in the event they were predators who wanted to pretend to be males in order to obtain sex by deception with their pupils, as you suggested, the pupils would not be deceived. Because they would know they were women, or they wouldn't be in the job, as only women are allowed to teach.

But trans ‘boys’ are women 🤷‍♀️

lol @Endoadnowarriorcan you tell us please how the op would know if this particular trans woman is cis claiming to be trans or actually trans?

That makes no sense. If only women were allowed to teach children then the girls would know that the grown woman identifying as a boy to access them was not in fact a boy. Because the sheer fact she was their teacher would identify her as a woman.
I'm not advocating that only women are allowed to teach children BTW, just highlighting the lack of logic in your thinking.

I don’t think you are arguing in good faith.

I’ve clearly stated my concern is not with my child seeing social media.

testosterone gel can be transferred from skin to skin contact and can cause serious issues in children.