Is London a crime infested shithole?

Well all the stupid sheep sucking up the Bots and R Wing social media will be sorry soon. Because unfortunately the belief that London is a lawless, Shariah-governed shit hole of a death trap is beginning to affect tourism.

And London is the biggest net contributor to the GDP: 5 times higher than the next contributor, Manchester. Frighten the tourists and the international service industries and finance sector away (even more than the R Wing and Bot driven Brexit thinking did) and the impact will be badly felt by cosy village dwellers across the land.

The OP is an obvious troll

And I was born when we had letters followed by 4 numbers. A Cockney is a Londoner. A Londoner is not necessarily a Cockney. But these days you’d practically have to be born on the steps of the church to be able to hear the bells.

You could be a true Londoner and support Manchester United. They wouldn't have many fans left otherwise...

What if they live in the London Borough of Haringey but claim to be in Middlesex?

I never feel unsafe in London, really. There are 10 million+ people there, so obviously there will be 'more' crime, but on the whole it's safe if you use common sense.

It's a narrative that Reform like to push, on the basis that they despise Sadiq Khan. It's also a narrative that Elon Musk likes to push.

I don't live in London, but I've visited frequently for both work and leisure over the years (including twice per week for the past couple of years). I've never felt unsafe there, even as a lone woman of coming home late at night.

No it is not but there are certainly concerns around crime as there has always been in a large city like London

Crime patterns change there is more knife crime but less home breaks ins and car theft which impacted everyone I knew at some point

knife crime didn’t so much in the 80/90’s but every teenager I know has a knife story to tell which is very sad but they don’t seem bothered it’s how life is

No.

I don’t get this ‘everything is so dangerous now, you used to be able to leave your front door open’ thing.

Seriously how old are you? Do you remember the 90s and early 2000s? Happy slapping, mugging, teen pregnancy, hoodies, drugs EVERYWHERE, town centres were filled with packs of tracksuited yobbos stealing or trying to nick your handbag, chav culture was a BIG thing. Rape wasn’t really reported - I can think of multiple rapes which happened when I was a teenager that were never acknowledged as ‘crimes’, more unlucky-but-what-do-you-expect-going-out-late-in-that-short-skirt.

I can’t remember that, but do remember paying 30p.

@Wishitwas1996 I felt very adult when I got mine 😆

I was thinking recently how much I loved my travel card when I moved to London in the early 90s. It made me feel like I had some kind of access all areas pass (along with millions of others).

Do you remember when it was 5p for kids on the bus?

Off topic but my travel card was so cheap back in the 90s!

I tell a lie.
Purple lines "mind the grab"

Thank you!

@Netcurtainnelly It’s so tiresome when people post these type of posts with zero fact checking.

I lived south when I moved to London at 23 but fell in love with someone from north of the river and moved. Sarf in my bones though.

Born and raised in London, an amazing city that is vibrant and full of culture.
There are good and not so good things everywhere. It really irritates me when people say to me that they are scared of coming to London.

@Passingthrough123 I was born in North London but raised in South, class myself as Sarf obvs.

I think we all have to accept we view things differently.

I’ve worked in London for over 35 years and commuted in and out and socialised there and I love it. I feel quite safe.

Yes. There was an inner and outer zone.

Well no, not really. I just don't think that what you're saying makes any sense

But it makes sense to me & all the other posters disagreeing with you.

Your stance doesn’t make sense to me at all.

I do think it’s odd to diminish that but @BIWI has made up their mind!

Well no, not really. I just don't think that what you're saying makes any sense.

And I say that very calmly, with a strong sense of zen ...

Hit a nerve then? 😆

Yes they were, I used to have to buy a travel card to go to school!