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British childhood/schooling versus elsewhere in Europe. Is it really so bad?

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Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 13:26

This morning I saw an Instagram post describing a British 5 year olds morning vs a Scandivian childs morning. It said that the British child will have a rushed and stressful experience being pushed out the door at 7am for school, whereas the Scandinavian child will have a slow morning looking at the frost on the grass outside before heading off to forest school in the afternoon.

I only have one European friend (as in still living abroad) with a same age child as me (4-5) and yes her child doesn't go to formal school but she goes to nursery which starts at 8am and finishes at 5pm because my friend and her husband still have a full time job.

The messaging seems to be that British children are locked away inside classrooms studying while their same age European peers are frolicking in the forests all day. For those who were schooled or whose children are schooled abroad, is this really true?

A school day here is only 6 hours with constant school holidays, seems like plenty of time for frolicking in the outdoors yet I constantly read that British children are shut away indoors, writing at desks and consequently have a miserable childhood. I'd love to hear about some of the differences abroad from those who have lived it, in terms of time spent outdoors/independence/attitudes to play vs academics etc.

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Dorrieisalittlewitch · 12/04/2026 18:15

We are in Scotland. My kids saunter out the house at 9.05ish for the 2 min wander up the cliff to primary school. They can see the sea from every classroom and spend plenty of time outside as part of the school day.

EdithStourton · 12/04/2026 18:14

A friend of mine lives in Scandinavia. She says that the flexibility of work hours is great, and that children have loads more freedom, but doesn't rate the quality of the education at all.

Gwenhwyfar · 12/04/2026 18:13

I live on the continent and my childhood was MUCH easier than that of children here, but I'm quite old so I'm not comparing the same time period.

Yes, they learn to read a bit later here, but they are at nursery school from 2 and almost every child is in creche after a few months. Homework and exams are a big stress even before they start secondary. Secondary schooling is still split into technical and academic and repeating years is very common. They do many more subjects and longer hours.

Didimum · 12/04/2026 18:10

Our British school does forest school, outside lessons in the good weather and plenty of breaks outside across the day.

decorationday · 12/04/2026 18:07

YABU for taking anything you see on Instagram seriously.

darkrainysunshine · 12/04/2026 18:01

There’s definitely a certain type of person / parent who fetishes Scandinavia and all they do.

I think it is nonsense.

Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 17:47

My friend has never expressed an opinion on it - I just meant she's the only person I know with children outside of the UK. Her daughter is the same age as mine but not at 'school' but in some kind of other formal setting doing the same things as my own daughter. And the days are longer/no holidays.

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Jaipurrrr · 12/04/2026 17:18

I live in the Home Counties. Primary school meant putting on your wellies to walk down a bridal path for 10 mins to school which started at 8:50. The school had its own bluebell wood to run around in. After school 3pm was spent playing football on the village green before getting back home 5ish for tea. Bit of homework. Usually two or three extra-curricula - cubs, football training or swimming - all physical and social across the week - and loads of time spent playing outdoors. They are all now young adults, very fit mentally and physically with many outdoorsy / sporting hobbies that they have continued.

The only thing different from my feral 70s childhood is that they never really had the freedom to ride their bikes as too much fast busy traffic on narrow semi rural roads.

turkeyboots · 12/04/2026 17:17

Primary in most of Europe starts formal learning later, but they are all in preschool. Ireland has a similar primary structure to the UK, but kids start later and there is an extra year before going to secondary age 12. But primary is half days for the first 2 years, and the next 2 finish at 2pm most of the time.
A nightmare to work around, but significantly more relaxed than the English system.

Greenolivio · 12/04/2026 17:15

Mine are in school 9-3:15, we walk to school and often play in the park/ woods after school (which is right next to school) with lots of other children. They also have forest school and beach school. We are UK, (England). Definitely not shut indoors.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 12/04/2026 17:12

There isn't a UK school system. Scotland has its own education. My grandsons start between 8.45 and 9. It's a soft start. Dgs1 is in P2 and dgs2 is at nursery( pre school). Education for them is playing based with a full day of outdoor activities for dgs1 each week, as well as a daily mile activity. Dgs2 is outside every day. Nursery closes at 2.30 but pick up can be til 2.45 and school at 3. Dgs1 was deferred for a year so started school at 5 and a half. Dgs2 will start school this August at nearly 5. Plenty of time to play after school

EspanaPorfavor · 12/04/2026 17:10

I’m in Spain and primary school is 9-4.30 with a 2.5 hour lunch break where you can go and get your child if you want but I work so they have lunch and extracurricular activities at school instead. DS at secondary is 8.30-3.30. Neither are outside much.

What I miss about Britain are the half term holidays. In Spain we get 11 weeks in the summer (I’m a teacher so for me I love it!) but no half terms. We’re all exhausted by the end of the terms and September is a massive adjustment.

OneTimeThingToday · 12/04/2026 17:10

When mine lived in Cyprus school started at 7.30am. But it did finish by 1pm!

People forget wgen they say that "School starts at 6yo" that is formal, at desks education, not a play based curriculum lije Reception. Thats preschool/kindergarden etc.

Itsmetheflamingo · 12/04/2026 17:05

What a load of shit 😂 the harassed stressed British child and the relaxed chill Scandinavian 😂

check out PISA scores- Britian scores highly educational attainment - before deciding who go compare too.

and don’t forget how different culture is generally in other countries

VickyEadieofThigh · 12/04/2026 17:04

I'm 67, so it's now 62 years since I started school. I have to say that I would've been bored shitless spending whole mornings "looking at the frost on the grass" as a child and HATED being cold.

Bromeliads · 12/04/2026 17:03

My kids much preferred reading and Maths to forest school!

Posner · 12/04/2026 17:00

Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 16:59

Yep in the UK

Well then your thread is peculiar because you already know the UK isn’t as your friend thinks

Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 16:59

Posner · 12/04/2026 16:59

And you’re in the uk or not?

either way… this sounds identical to many children in the Uk

Yep in the UK

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Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 16:59

Outdoorpillowlady · 12/04/2026 14:24

Did I fall for an AI / Journo again?? Fuck sakes.

I promise I'm not but don't know how to prove it 🤣

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Posner · 12/04/2026 16:59

Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 16:52

Sorry been out for Sunday lunch! Noo not a journalist or writing an article lol 😆

I'm genuinely just curious because while I love the idea of a really outdoorsy, relaxed childhood (which I guess is why my algorithm gives me these posts) I just don't quite buy the idea that the UK has got it completely wrong and the rest of Europe is far superior.

We live in a town and my daughter is in reception, she doesn't start until 8:45. She walks/scoots in to school and we seem to have plenty of time in the mornings. I then pick her up at 3:15 and we walk/scoot back. She goes to bed about 8 and it feels like we have loads of time in the evening to get out and about. We have dogs so usually end up in the woods somewhere or at the park.

And you’re in the uk or not?

either way… this sounds identical to many children in the Uk

Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 16:58

mzpq · 12/04/2026 14:33

My children used to get up for school at 7.30am.

I've never pushed them out of any doors, ever.

Nor were they 'shut away' indoors.

With such silly language, it's hard to take your opening post seriously.

I agree, but this is the language I see and I see it on here as well, the idea that kids in the UK start school too young whereas in the rest of Europe they get a proper, outdoorsy childhood. I'll try and refind the Instagram post that made me start this thread. I just don't see why the UK school system is so bad when they are only there 6 hours and are seemingly constantly on half term 😂 hence wondering what it's actually like in other countries.

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Everybodysinthehousetonight · 12/04/2026 16:57

Try SE Asia, British kids are practically on holiday at school compared to there 🤣

Rosacharmosa · 12/04/2026 16:52

Sorry been out for Sunday lunch! Noo not a journalist or writing an article lol 😆

I'm genuinely just curious because while I love the idea of a really outdoorsy, relaxed childhood (which I guess is why my algorithm gives me these posts) I just don't quite buy the idea that the UK has got it completely wrong and the rest of Europe is far superior.

We live in a town and my daughter is in reception, she doesn't start until 8:45. She walks/scoots in to school and we seem to have plenty of time in the mornings. I then pick her up at 3:15 and we walk/scoot back. She goes to bed about 8 and it feels like we have loads of time in the evening to get out and about. We have dogs so usually end up in the woods somewhere or at the park.

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mzpq · 12/04/2026 14:33

My children used to get up for school at 7.30am.

I've never pushed them out of any doors, ever.

Nor were they 'shut away' indoors.

With such silly language, it's hard to take your opening post seriously.

Outdoorpillowlady · 12/04/2026 14:24

Did I fall for an AI / Journo again?? Fuck sakes.